TBird
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Post by TBird on Jan 12, 2020 8:41:15 GMT -5
I have used EZ Drummer 2 for a couple years now and I do like it, but now I'v discovered the Drummer in Logic Pro X, and that has been working even better. Just start a track using Drummer as source and you have a number of different genres, "drummers" to work with. What's really cool is that the tracks adapt to the music. For example, if you end a phrase with a complete stop, just adjust the end of the clip to that point and drummer will add a fill and cymbal crash to end the measure. It even adds pick up beats at the beginning of the next section. Subdivide say a 12 bar section into three 4 bar measures, and it will give you a fill at the end of each 4 bars. In each of those sections, you can adjust the volume and complexity of the beat as well as adding or reducing the fills. There are more features that I haven't yet explored as I'm still working on my first song using the Drummer, but I think that this feature is a major time-saver.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jan 15, 2020 9:07:30 GMT -5
Whatever works, right? I'm pretty well invested into EZDrummer but was also fairly satisfied using 2 track loops from BetaMonkey before that. Now that support has ended for Win 7 I don't know what the future holds for me with my setup. Pro Tools 10, Win 7, a bunch of other plugins...I've taken that laptop off line, uninstalled all malware and virus protection so no more additions to my EZDrummer library. I reckon someday I'll have to learn a new DAW and I doubt it'll be Pro Tools. As much as I've acclimated to it I have a real problem with subscription software.
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69tele
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Post by 69tele on Jan 21, 2020 8:22:43 GMT -5
I use Superior Drummer which is the big brother to EZ drummer, sounds great and you can build on your libraries as you go along.
I also supplement my songs with "finger drums" by adding in the odd cymbal, percussion etc..
Before SD i use make all my patterns by hand .. but the SD patterns sound a lot more professional and natural.
Here is one of our originals with SD Drums.
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Geno
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Post by Geno on Jan 31, 2020 7:20:12 GMT -5
I have used EZ Drummer 2 for a couple years now and I do like it, but now I'v discovered the Drummer in Logic Pro X, and that has been working even better. Just start a track using Drummer as source and you have a number of different genres, "drummers" to work with. What's really cool is that the tracks adapt to the music. For example, if you end a phrase with a complete stop, just adjust the end of the clip to that point and drummer will add a fill and cymbal crash to end the measure. It even adds pick up beats at the beginning of the next section. Subdivide say a 12 bar section into three 4 bar measures, and it will give you a fill at the end of each 4 bars. In each of those sections, you can adjust the volume and complexity of the beat as well as adding or reducing the fills. There are more features that I haven't yet explored as I'm still working on my first song using the Drummer, but I think that this feature is a major time-saver. I've only scratched the surface with Logic Pro X and will come here for some pointers when needed. I've added some specific fills using the step editor (if that's what it's called) and of course that's a tedious way to add simple drum fills. Maybe I'm missing something very simple. As I look at the number of gigs on my calendar, which are very few so far, I may have to resort to DAW recording again to get my guitar fix. It's not that I don't enjoy it, but I would much rather be out gigging with real musicians. |
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TBird
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Post by TBird on Jan 31, 2020 8:06:53 GMT -5
I did step-editing on a Roland sequencer and it is mind-numbing. EZ drummer is good, fairly easy and sounds realistic. My issue is that once you put the various beats/fills/etc on the timeline, unless I've written down exactly which folder/drummer/beat #, when you I go back to add something later, I can't easily find where the clips came from. And if you modify a beat pattern, say to add a cymbal crash or a single snare hit, you can't save that for future use. Logic Drummer is easier to use in that respect since you can see where the beats came from in the editing mode. What I like especially is how the program intuitively adds fills at the ends of phrases.
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Geno
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Post by Geno on Jan 31, 2020 8:43:12 GMT -5
I agree that step editing is mind-numbing. What I did in Logic was to use the canned grooves, then use the step editor to add a break and a fill, and nothing complicated. That was last year so it already seems like a lifetime ago.
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Post by LTB on Mar 11, 2020 1:36:45 GMT -5
I may be wrong but I would think many things used in Win 7 would work in Win 10. If not maybe there is a update available. |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 11, 2020 7:41:45 GMT -5
I may be wrong but I would think many things used in Win 7 would work in Win 10. If not maybe there is a update available. It's likely my EZDrummer would work in Win 10, but Avid does not support Pro Tools 10 in Win 10, and I'm not ready to switch to another DAW nor pay subscription fees for an upgrade. |
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Post by LesTele on Mar 29, 2020 22:34:49 GMT -5
I have used EZ Drummer 2 for a couple years now and I do like it, but now I'v discovered the Drummer in Logic Pro X, and that has been working even better. Just start a track using Drummer as source and you have a number of different genres, "drummers" to work with. What's really cool is that the tracks adapt to the music. For example, if you end a phrase with a complete stop, just adjust the end of the clip to that point and drummer will add a fill and cymbal crash to end the measure. It even adds pick up beats at the beginning of the next section. Subdivide say a 12 bar section into three 4 bar measures, and it will give you a fill at the end of each 4 bars. In each of those sections, you can adjust the volume and complexity of the beat as well as adding or reducing the fills. There are more features that I haven't yet explored as I'm still working on my first song using the Drummer, but I think that this feature is a major time-saver. Well. How’s it going with Logic Pro X? The drummer specifically. With my new found free time, I’m looking to upgrade. By the time I add the cost of decent 3rd party plug-ins (bought or ‘rented’) I think that I would be better off buying the software. |
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