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Post by rickyguitar on Jan 19, 2020 22:35:55 GMT -5
I have been checking out youtube videos on super reverb. Really great sounding amps. Years ago years ago I saw a hot local band band with an exceptional guitarist playing a LP deluxe thru a super. Very good sound. I remember they played side 2 of Abbey Road. I was impressed. Anyway, these supers sound really good. I always played through 12 inch speakers, not really sure why. I now have a hot rod deluxe that I am very happy with, sounds good to me and I always get compliments on the sound. I guess I am not really gassing but.....they do sound good.
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Post by rdr on Jan 20, 2020 11:20:59 GMT -5
Way back, a SR was my main gigging amp. If I needed a big amp again, I think I'd like a SR Tonemaster if they made one!
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Post by Peppy on Jan 21, 2020 5:55:35 GMT -5
If I needed a big amp again, I think I'd like a SR Tonemaster if they made one! You. I. That player over there. That one over there. And there......
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Post by zenland on Jan 21, 2020 15:35:02 GMT -5
I've had a 1969 Super Reverb for 2/3 years now and willie (GREAT Amp Tech BTW:) brought her back to life. She sounds Fantastic!
He also did that for me on my 1970 SR that I owned for many years earlier prior to the '70 SR and, let's say..... was a fool for selling! That won't happen again!
MHO is that they really have a presence that's theirs alone!
I think you'd be real happy owning one!
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Post by LTB on Jan 23, 2020 18:11:50 GMT -5
A friend had a 65 Twin and 65 Super Reverb, both original vintage. Of the two I preferred the sound of the Super Reverb with 4 10's. Both were very heavy but boy did it sound good! I play mostly clean but thought the tone of the Super Reverb was better than the Twin which was a little "sterile" sounding to me for lack of a better term.
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Post by Tall-Fir on Jan 24, 2020 23:15:59 GMT -5
I have a Super Reverb—well sort of. I bought it from David Allen. He rebuilt a blackface SR chassis. With a new OT, I can go around 25 watts for a DR type amp or go around 40 watts for SR type amp. 6V6 verses 6L6 tubes. The chassis is in a mint condition cab with 2X10s—just the right size and with Patriot speakers. Sounds wonderful!
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Post by pcalu on Jan 25, 2020 21:31:30 GMT -5
If... if... I was to buy another amp a Super would be in the equation. They're not that heavy. I rotate Twin Reverb and a Pro Reverb with other amps when I gig. A decent folding truck dolly (like the one you can by at Hope Depot) and some Bungie chords cancel out all my weight issues with those big combos I have. All vintage Fender amps have their own specific tone ambiance and feel.
Tone and feel are where it's at for me, weight takes a back seat to those.
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Post by jazzguy on Jan 26, 2020 16:23:48 GMT -5
If... if... I was to buy another amp a Super would be in the equation. They're not that heavy. I rotate Twin Reverb and a Pro Reverb with other amps when I gig. A decent folding truck dolly (like the one you can by at Hope Depot) and some Bungie chords cancel out all my weight issues with those big combos I have. All vintage Fender amps have their own specific tone ambiance and feel.
Tone and feel are where it's at for me, weight takes a back seat to those. exactly, people think I'm nuts to still lug a Twin to gigs, but that's the sound I want, so..... and yes a folding hand truck takes all the weight issues away save for lifting it out of the trunk
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Post by LTB on Feb 25, 2020 4:01:04 GMT -5
If... if... I was to buy another amp a Super would be in the equation. They're not that heavy. I rotate Twin Reverb and a Pro Reverb with other amps when I gig. A decent folding truck dolly (like the one you can by at Hope Depot) and some Bungie chords cancel out all my weight issues with those big combos I have. All vintage Fender amps have their own specific tone ambiance and feel.
Tone and feel are where it's at for me, weight takes a back seat to those. I had to work on a guy's early 70's silverface Pro Reverb. I wished I had that amp. One of the best sounding amps I have played. Unfortunately a bit expensive for my pocketbook. If I played more guitar than bass I could have justified it. Maybe someday
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Post by stratcowboy on Feb 25, 2020 9:26:59 GMT -5
Supers are one of the all time great sounds, for sure.
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Post by RogerD on Mar 11, 2020 10:34:55 GMT -5
Supers are one of the all time great sounds, for sure. As I have a very early '67 silver-face Super Reverb I must agree.
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Post by pcalu on Mar 11, 2020 18:50:26 GMT -5
There is a lot of mojo in the early Silverface amps. (and with some even the late 1970s pre-PCBs stuff I think is great by today's standards) Myself personally, after I've blackfaced an early Silverface and dropped in my favorite tubage and AFt speakers, I can't tell a difference in quality and performance from the more coveted pre-CBS Blackface models. Some models I just flat out prefer the early Silverface models even if not BK'ed. Twin Reverb is one. I see people ripping out the MV and wonder why. IMO Twins sound their best opened up and the MV comes in handy on today's stages. I could go on for days about my 74 Pro Reverb. Had the bias BF'ed, with the 5U4GB, that amp has a glorious overdrive (e.g. Marshall JTM45 who? ?) starts to break up around 4, by 6 it's overdriving.. on 8 its a sweet half sag saturation. Great amp. I've got think an early 70s Super with a MV, once you make it a AB763 has got to be one sweet mojo box! With all those Silverfaces I stay clear of the pull boast if it has one...IMO does nothing of quality. (been thinking of just replacing that funky pot and removing the wiring for the boost... but why bother, I don't use it and forget about the feature.
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Post by mcrofutt on Mar 12, 2020 17:35:18 GMT -5
I have a 65SR. I'm the original owner. To me, it is that by which all else is judged. It only goes out these days when I have a run of outdoor summer gigs, otherwise it's upstairs in my music room, gets turned on and played a little once in while. I can't yet bring myself to sell it, it's been part of me for so long. My small pub gigs are covered these days by either my VOX AC15-C1 or my 68 Princeton Reverb.
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Post by stratcowboy on Mar 12, 2020 19:45:30 GMT -5
otherwise it's upstairs in my music room You are obviously not a "girly-man!" Getting a Super Reverb "upstairs" ain't no small doin'.
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Post by jazzguy on Mar 12, 2020 21:22:01 GMT -5
So you've owned a blackface Super since I was 4. Bless you, I'm a dyed in the wool blackface Twin player, the 2-12 Jensens work better for jazz than the 4-10s blues and rock cats dig. My favorite Fender is a blackface Vibrolux Reverb w Jensens but I gig almost exclusively w Twins, they work great w my old L-5 on Hammond B-3 gigs
I'd never sell that amp either, just make sure you leave it to someone that won't cash it in for $150 when you have no say in the matter ;<)
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Post by Pinetree on Mar 20, 2020 20:55:48 GMT -5
I had a silver-faced Super (and a Quad) Reverb back in the day, but I dumped them both for my Marshall Super Lead 100.
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Post by herb on Mar 21, 2020 15:11:27 GMT -5
In my 20's and 30's I use to lug around blackface SRs. They had the sound I wanted. They broke up fairly early on the dial and were loud. Plug in and play. For a totally different sound now I use a blackface Vibrolux. It's a '65, pretty much original and still has a glorious sound. IMG_5062_zps3164e048.jpg~original IMG_5046_zpsf8d742fb.jpg~original
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Post by SoK66 on Mar 21, 2020 15:13:18 GMT -5
otherwise it's upstairs in my music room You are obviously not a "girly-man!" Getting a Super Reverb "upstairs" ain't no small doin'. Hey, I just a few hours ago hauled my '68 SFSR upstairs to my office. I'm 74, if I can do it YOU can too! Man up!
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Post by SoK66 on Mar 21, 2020 15:15:01 GMT -5
In my 20's and 30's I use to lug around blackface SRs. They had the sound I wanted. They broke up fairly early on the dial and were loud. Plug in and play. For a totally different sound now I use a blackface Vibrolux. It's a '65, pretty much original and still has a glorious sound. IMG_5062_zps3164e048.jpg~original IMG_5046_zpsf8d742fb.jpg~originalOK, now you're just showin' off!! LoL! (Sweet amp!!!!!)
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Post by stratcowboy on Mar 21, 2020 15:31:35 GMT -5
Yeah. That's a beauty!
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Post by Leftee on Mar 21, 2020 15:31:44 GMT -5
I had a silver-faced Super (and a Quad) Reverb back in the day, but I dumped them both for my Marshall Super Lead 100. Nothing against the Fenders... but I could see this move in my world.
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Post by herb on Mar 21, 2020 15:49:25 GMT -5
OK, now you're just showin' off!! LoL! (Sweet amp!!!!!) Lately I've been getting a few photos organized. Great opportunity to do a little showing off. If you're like me I love seeing people's gear, especially the old stuff. Thanks for the compliment.
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Post by LTB on Mar 24, 2020 1:21:01 GMT -5
I've had a 1969 Super Reverb for 2/3 years now and willie (GREAT Amp Tech BTW:) brought her back to life. She sounds Fantastic! He also did that for me on my 1970 SR that I owned for many years earlier prior to the '70 SR and, let's say..... was a fool for selling! That won't happen again! MHO is that they really have a presence that's theirs alone! I think you'd be real happy owning one! ; ) I know a lot of guitarist like the Blackface models and seem to mod their Silverface with blackface circuitry mods and from control panel. Personally I prefer the tone of the Silverface models and if I could afford one that is what I would go for.
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Post by zenland on Mar 24, 2020 8:00:41 GMT -5
LTB-When willie worked on my Super Reverbs he kind of did a best of both (Black/Silverface) worlds so to speak. The thing I heard from other guitar players was to make sure it was blackfaced! Willie said I can but, you’d be missing out on some of what the silverface model offers!
No complaints at all!
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Post by mountie on Mar 24, 2020 16:58:31 GMT -5
My SFSR (drip edge '69) could tell a lifetime of stories I'm sure. It has been to gigs in Newfoundland where the gear was driven to the local garbage dump and carried down to the shore. From there it was placed in an open boat with uncovered drums and taken to the next community. A pickup truck met the boat and carried the gear and the b'yes to the gig. After, the venue was shut down and the b'yes were billeted until the gear was trucked back to the shore, where the procedure was reversed. It's a bar whore that sings like a queen. Awkward, heavy, tall and way too clean. My baby...
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Post by LTB on Mar 25, 2020 12:18:22 GMT -5
LTB-When willie worked on my Super Reverbs he kind of did a best of both (Black/Silverface) worlds so to speak. The thing I heard from other guitar players was to make sure it was blackfaced! Willie said I can but, you’d be missing out on some of what the silverface model offers! No complaints at all! 👍👍 Willie would know. He has more experience than 4 or 5 of us put together.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 6, 2020 9:38:02 GMT -5
I had a reissue for a number of years, and think very highly of them. As others have said, unless you're putting giant speakers in there, they aren't that heavy. I found them easier to move than say, a 1x12 that is loaded with a heavy speaker and transformers, because you aren't leaning over as far, making it easier on the back.
10s are underrated. When you have multiple speakers there is more than enough low end for most people, there is less upper midrange spike, and they sit in a band mix really nicely. They're surprisingly good at lower volumes (assuming they're not modded to be over powered - not quite an apples to apples comparison, but it isn't much more powerful than your HRDlx), and the warmth from a big baffle and multiple speakers will make you wonder what the appeal ever was with 12 inch speakers.
I sold mine because I was moving so often, it was becoming a burden. I have a Deluxe Reverb now, and really miss having 10s. My next amp will likely be a princeton or some variation of a vibrolux.
If you want a super, watch for one used. Smaller amps are the big thing now, and larger ones have very poor resale value, so you should be able to pick one up at a good price.
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Post by Laker on Apr 11, 2020 18:20:32 GMT -5
With the effects pedals that are available today you could also check out an old Fender Concert amp, the Super Reverb before the reverb tank was added.
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Post by LTB on Apr 12, 2020 5:42:35 GMT -5
With the effects pedals that are available today you could also check out an old Fender Concert amp, the Super Reverb before the reverb tank was added. Very cool to know! Was not aware the Concert was the pre-Super Reverb. You got me to reading up about this and found useful information concerning Fenders reasons to change Vibrato circuitry and how they changed it. And in at least one model year in the early 60's the Concert and Vibrolux circuit were virtually identical. Didn't find this but those two amps probably utilized different speaker types etc to offer a sound difference. That is just a wag as I hadn't found as yet the difference.
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Post by SoK66 on Apr 15, 2020 8:17:18 GMT -5
Fender's rearranging of the amp names from the brown/blonde era '62, to the blackface amps of '63 & '64 drove the owner of the guitar store where I worked at the time nuts. If I can do this right from memory, he ranted that the 2x10 brown Vibroverb that became the 2x10 Vibrolux should have become the 2x10 "Super Reverb." The 1x15" Vibroverb should have become the "Pro Reverb." Fender carried over two amps, the Pro and the Concert from brown/blonde to black without adding reverb. My perpetually aggravated boss said the non-reverb 1x15 Pro and the 4x10 Concert were "sales proof" and they should have just added reverb and retained the names. When the '65 2x12 Pro Reverb came out he said it should have been the Twin Reverb and that they should have renamed the Twin Reverb something else. He retired a frustrated man who shoud have worked in marketing.
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