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Post by rdr on Dec 21, 2021 14:06:02 GMT -5
Hi. I thought I'd mention that I purchased a Bugera attenuator while on sale at Sweetwater. It works great for my needs. Hooked up to my DRRI in my smallish mancave, I can crank the amp's volume knob to 5 or 6 and get a great sounding grind, while keeping the actual volume very low.. Although just a resistance load, I don't notice a loss of treble or other problem. I read that some report that the line out/DI is not good but I wouldn't be using that anyway. Still on sale- www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PS1Atten--bugera-ps1-passive-100-watt-power-attenuatorHere's a review Have a good holiday! |
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Dec 21, 2021 19:52:05 GMT -5
I have used the ultimate Attenuator for over 15 years which is also a resistance reamp attenuator and it is very transparent
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Post by reverendrob on Dec 22, 2021 3:31:45 GMT -5
Can it run with no speaker attached for true silent recording?
That's something I really really like about my little Weber Mini-Mass, but...if this did that as well, I'd probably bag one to have around as a utility tool.
It lacks the +3/+6 treble boost switch on the DI, but I could fix that on the board well enough at the tracking stage!
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Dec 22, 2021 13:44:44 GMT -5
my UA requires no speaker and has a ajusable line out
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Post by rdr on Dec 22, 2021 15:17:55 GMT -5
Can it run with no speaker attached for true silent recording? That's something I really really like about my little Weber Mini-Mass, but...if this did that as well, I'd probably bag one to have around as a utility tool. It lacks the +3/+6 treble boost switch on the DI, but I could fix that on the board well enough at the tracking stage! Rev, I can't tell if you can use it without a speaker attached. But you can reduce the speaker volume to zero. I would think it would be OK to not connect a speaker, but don't really know. |
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Dec 22, 2021 17:17:56 GMT -5
I would deffintly find out for sure before you run it with no speake. It would stink to blow a transformer on your amp
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Post by rdr on Dec 22, 2021 18:37:59 GMT -5
There seems to a design issue with the line out. I tried it, and if the speaker volume is reduced to zero, the line out signal goes away too. I don't know if it similarly affects the emulated mic output.
But the volume attenuation works great. Especially for $69.
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Post by Ricketi on Dec 23, 2021 13:37:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the post. Just what I needed for my Drri in my small music room setting. I just ordered it.
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Post by gbfun on Dec 24, 2021 6:58:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up ! Ordered one. Merry Xmas to me ! Merry Xmas to you too...  |
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Dec 24, 2021 8:12:04 GMT -5
I'm considering one also. We relocated and downsized, and now my music room is tiny. With neighbors close by. This might be just what I need.....? I wouldn't care if I did lose a little bit of treble, anyway. My hearing probably isn't good enough to notice.
I wonder if there were problems with the original units? Reading some of the older reviews, a lot of these were smoking after just a few minutes of use, even with 20W amps.
I may take my chances anyway, most of the newer reviews are good.
Thanks for posting this!
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Post by Ricketi on Dec 24, 2021 15:46:58 GMT -5
That was Quick, ordered it yesterday got it today with free shipping. now to try it out.
Works like a charm! Cranked my amp up dialed down the attenuator and got a nice over driven amp sound at a small room volume .
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Dec 24, 2021 22:12:41 GMT -5
That was Quick, ordered it yesterday got it today with free shipping. now to try it out. Works like a charm! Cranked my amp up dialed down the attenuator and got a nice over driven amp sound at a small room volume . Awesome! I ordered one this morning, looking forward to trying it out. |
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Post by rdr on Dec 24, 2021 22:35:46 GMT -5
If you think it cuts the treble too much, just turn the amp treble up a little. Also, if you are attenuating high wattage, apparently some of the glue or other substance may outgas the first time (hence reports of smoke). Haven't tried it yet with my 50 watt Marshall Origin head as it has it's own built-in attenuator but I'll give it a go for fun.
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Post by Leftee on Dec 25, 2021 0:26:43 GMT -5
I’ll snag one after tomm my arrow if they’re still in stock.
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Dec 25, 2021 7:18:28 GMT -5
If you think it cuts the treble too much, just turn the amp treble up a little. Also, if you are attenuating high wattage, apparently some of the glue or other substance may outgas the first time (hence reports of smoke). Haven't tried it yet with my 50 watt Marshall Origin head as it has it's own built-in attenuator but I'll give it a go for fun. I also wonder if some people were hooking them up incorrectly. It would be easy to do, some guys just don't know the ohms of their cabs, etc. You could possibly hook it up backwards, also.....? |
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Post by Vibroluxer on Dec 25, 2021 9:58:35 GMT -5
If you think it cuts the treble too much, just turn the amp treble up a little. Also, if you are attenuating high wattage, apparently some of the glue or other substance may outgas the first time (hence reports of smoke). Haven't tried it yet with my 50 watt Marshall Origin head as it has it's own built-in attenuator but I'll give it a go for fun. I also wonder if some people were hooking them up incorrectly. It would be easy to do, some guys just don't know the ohms of their cabs, etc. You could possibly hook it up backwards, also.....? Or use the wrong type of cable. |
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Post by zenland on Jan 2, 2022 20:08:35 GMT -5
If you think it cuts the treble too much, just turn the amp treble up a little. Also, if you are attenuating high wattage, apparently some of the glue or other substance may outgas the first time (hence reports of smoke). Haven't tried it yet with my 50 watt Marshall Origin head as it has it's own built-in attenuator but I'll give it a go for fun. I also wonder if some people were hooking them up incorrectly. It would be easy to do, some guys just don't know the ohms of their cabs, etc. You could possibly hook it up backwards, also.. I'm using speaker cables with my Tone King Ironman II attenuator. I just bought the Bugera to try out and see how it works. Thanks for the video Rich! My Tone King is a bit bulky and I'd like something that's more grab and go on the smaller side if I play out again. It will be here Wednesday so will see how it works! |
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Post by Mike the marksman on Jan 3, 2022 9:11:01 GMT -5
A buddy of mine has one and we've cranked an old silverface bandmaster reverb and a high-power tweed twin clone though it. It works quite well.
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Post by gbfun on Jan 4, 2022 6:38:44 GMT -5
That's great news !
If mine ever shows up, I hope to enjoy it one day.
I ordered it on Dec 24th, and it's in Idaho somewhere.
Apparently on the back of a mule or something.
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Post by gbfun on Jan 5, 2022 4:02:40 GMT -5
Now it's the 5th of January and my bug is in BLISS, Idaho. Seems like a good place to put a brothel. Maybe that's why it seems parked there !  |
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Jan 5, 2022 5:59:57 GMT -5
Mine arrived a few days ago. This thing is small, even after seeing videos of it, when it arrives and you pull it out of the box, it's surprisingly small. But it works quite well, and so far, no smoke. Some may not like the fact that it cuts the volume as much as it does, even at 100%. The manual says it cuts it by about 50%. That might be too much for live use, depending on a whole lot of factors. Too bad there isn't a bypass switch, but personally, I don't feel that I need one. I thought I noticed a slight change in tone at about 30% and below. Slightly brighter, maybe? Nothing drastic, more like barely noticeable. I was using my 20W JCM800, with the master on 8, mostly in 5W mode, but I also tried 20W mode. I haven't tried the line out or the emulated out yet. I hope to get to that sometime today, and go straight into my recorder. I've read that the line out combined with IR's can sound pretty good. But the only IR's I have right now are in my Strymon Iridium. So far, I'm impressed with it! Thanks again for posting rdr. |
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Jan 6, 2022 10:08:49 GMT -5
Update:
Yesterday, I recorded the Bugera in 4 different ways. With an SM57 in front of a Celestion V30 in a 1x12 Orange cab, then directly through the XLR out, directly through the Line Out, and through my Strymon Iridium which is the only IR's I have available at the moment. I used a clean Fender setting on the Iridium and tried to match the tone of the other recordings. (It came out a little bit brighter.)
My ears aren't the best, but I didn't hear considerable differences between the 4 recordings. The last three methods resulted in a brighter tone, but that is probably due to either mic placement, or the speaker I used.
I'm trying to decide which method would be best for recording. I did leave the cabinet hooked up, but I have read online that it may not be necessary. I don't know if I want to be the guinea pig with that scenario.
I think I will try loading some IR's directly into my HX FX, and then record using the Line Out on the Bugera, with a cleaner setting than what I used yesterday.
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Post by zenland on Jan 6, 2022 10:27:47 GMT -5
Thanks Bill! I appreciate hearing the recordings and thought you showcased the unit very well.
It did sound brighter on some of the settings as you said.
Look forward to hearing cleaner tones with different IR's and maybe even some reverbs and delays.
Mine was supposed to be here yesterday and they're saying it's out for delivery now.
We shall see, LOL!
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Post by Leftee on Jan 6, 2022 10:44:27 GMT -5
I just ordered a demo… $63.
I can always use another attenuator at this price.
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Jan 6, 2022 12:05:50 GMT -5
Mine was supposed to be here yesterday and they're saying it's out for delivery now. We shall see, LOL! I really think you'll like it! Let us know what you think after you experiment with it! I'm kinda looking forward to getting into the IR stuff, I've only tried it on the Iridium so far. Guys on the Helix forums are sooo far ahead of where I'm at! |
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Post by zenland on Jan 6, 2022 14:15:05 GMT -5
OK rdr! Thanks for the vid again because it changed my mind on this unit!
I definitely considered buying one of these before I settled on the Tone King unit!!
I didn't want to gamble (so to speak) on something I thought wouldn't be good enough tone wise!
It's a bit on the bright side but that's a plus for me as the treble can be turned down.
Had to do some returns this morning with the wife and it was here when we got home.
Plugged it in but used it with my 1959 Allen Bass head (instead of my SV20C) into my 1966A Marshall 2X12 cab!
For the money I think it's Great Buy!
Yep!
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Post by gbfun on Jan 7, 2022 4:21:38 GMT -5
Boo ! Still haven't got mine !
Ordered on the 24th and it got within 30 miles of me on Jan 5th....but now it's in Texas somewhere !
Thousands of miles away...
Glad to hear more evidence it works ok though.
I just hope they are really solidly built because mine is taking the long way home !
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Post by reverendrob on Jan 7, 2022 13:53:37 GMT -5
Pray it doesn't go to Troutdale OR.
If it goes there, you'll lose it for weeks.
It's bad enough Sweetwater expedites my orders gratis now to avoid it.
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Post by zenland on Jan 7, 2022 16:32:35 GMT -5
I just hope they are really solidly built because mine is taking the long way home ! The main soak knob (big knob on the left) sounds like metal on metal when turning to attenuate up or down but it's nothing to fret over! It works and works very well! Wish it wasn't taking so long so you could enjoy it!!! Cheers! Hope it all works out for you gbfun!! |
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Post by Ricketi on Jan 8, 2022 23:45:44 GMT -5
The main soak knob (big knob on the left) sounds like metal on metal when turning to attenuate up or down but it's nothing to fret over! It works and works very well! I have noticed that also. I'm really digging it though. I have my Drri set to 7 on volume and I get a great tone I didn't know existed, no pedals needed. A volume that is very doable in my small music room. |
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