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Post by ddd on Jan 3, 2020 9:10:05 GMT -5
Do any of you guys have experience with the GT 100? I uses one at church.
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Post by squarewave on Jan 3, 2020 13:27:55 GMT -5
Not specifically the GT 100, but I've used many multi-fx units over the years. I currently use a Kemper Profiler as a digital amp solution, but our rhythm player uses it as an all-in-the-box unit. I'm going to build a B-rig with the Kemper Stage as the main piece, augmented with a couple of pedals as a direct-to-FOH unit in the next month. Was there a specific question that you had regarding the GT 100?
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Post by MacDoof on Jan 3, 2020 13:47:53 GMT -5
I use a GT 10 occasionally, brilliant for utter control ability and good sounds but in church I plug straight in. I have a direct line...
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Post by ddd on Jan 3, 2020 16:36:47 GMT -5
I use it at church and have very reasonable patches that I use routinely. I also have a high gain setting that I use less often. I don't really know how to describe it but it has a raspy or fret buzz type sound at the decay when I hold a note. I get around it by staying busy but have been looking for what the problem is, and I am not good at knowing what is missing or happening at this time in the sound. My worship leader has helped me build some really nice patches, but we have not figured out this one.
We have a couple of clean tones and swell patch and several lead tones for general leads and solos. But the high gain is lacking on the decay end.
If/When things get better I would like to have a kemper stage.
Let me know if any of you have ideas on what may cause something like that.
Thanks David
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Post by reverendrob on Jan 3, 2020 16:56:11 GMT -5
EQ and noise gate are likely the cause there, and the solution.
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Post by squarewave on Jan 3, 2020 18:14:42 GMT -5
If you haven't tried yet, play a note, then turn each effect on, then off, and see if it's not a specific effect that is introducing the noise; could be a distortion that's just too hot. If it's not an effect, try adding a high cut at 8k to get rid of any useless information above that, and most likely the noise. In all honesty, in a mix, anything above 6k-8k in a guitar signal is just not needed. I run a low cut at 110Hz, and a high cut at 6.5k-8k depending on the guitar.
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Post by MacDoof on Jan 4, 2020 5:51:50 GMT -5
Ive been using Multi fx since the days of the Zoom 2020, and I never used the pre set patches. I always started with a clean patch and made my own. That way you learn the machine and how the effects interact with each other,and where any problems lie. Most presets were noisey, ridiculously over the top and practically useless!
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Jan 4, 2020 10:09:15 GMT -5
Most presets were noise ridiculously over the top and practically useless! Even the fairly new HX Effects is this way. It's like they have to show you "the most" that each effect is capable of, instead of useable presets. |
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Post by squarewave on Jan 4, 2020 12:20:14 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that's the standard practice for multi-fx units: "Let us show you what this thing can do!" No, thanks, I'll just build my own presets that actually sound good, and are useful in practical applications. I even use third-party IR's in Helix Native because their cab models aren't that good.
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Post by neilp on Jan 4, 2020 18:10:16 GMT -5
I have a GT100. It's far more capable than I need but I've had several in this series of Boss multi effects (GT8, GT10. ME50 etc). The presets are usually pretty nasty as noted already, and more designed to show off the over the top capabilities. I have found my needs are best met by finding one or two that I like and tweaking them for several versions of the same kinda thing - one with more drive, one with more chorus, one with some echo. You get the idea. I have had a bank of song specific patches that I tweaked to get a particular sound - Cream stuff is a good example. The regular patches that I had did not work for songs like White Room etc so I made one specifically for that song.
The GT100 has a PC app that I thought I would use more. I used it once... It is a cool tool but lugging the laptop to the guitar rig or vice versa just seems like a PITA when tweaking stuff from the panel is pretty quick and easy. Much easier than the older GTs.
I've not had the issue that you mention on high gain stuff - but I'm not the type to use that much gain. I have found that dialing back the gain on the amp makes finding decent tone easier. Really important to use consistent amp settings and also to set the type of amp you are using. When switching from one amp to another I work on tweaking the amp settings not changing the effects (other than the volume out). I'm sure you have figured this stuff out already!
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Post by ddd on Jan 6, 2020 19:59:06 GMT -5
I started working on Sunday's service. This is one of my patches. These are my global EQ settings, and I am not to savy at the terms on high cut low cut meanings. I also run from the GT to the system. But the problem happens at home as well through my old like me roland vs2000.
Global EQ low 0dB, mid gain 0dB, Mid freq 800HZ, mid Q 1, high gain 0
GT100 Amp setting, preamp A SLDN, gain 20, T-comp -6, level 50, bass 73, middle 53, treble 41, pres 22, gain sw low, solo sw off, solo level 50
NS thresh is 47, release is 30
EQ effect after amp in chain is low gain +2 dB, high gain is +2 dB
I have went through and turned each effect off to try to isolate but it does not seem to fix it.
Pf course there are several other settings but this is my guess as to what you guys may be talking about. Do anything jump out as a factor to any of you.
Thanks David
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Post by squarewave on Jan 6, 2020 21:40:54 GMT -5
Nothing looks abnormal about the settings. Try turning on a parametric EQ between the amp and cab, or even after the cab, it doesn't really matter. Set the low cut at 100Hz, and the high cut at 8kHz; this will eliminate anything below and above the set frequencies, respectively. This cleaning-up of the signal may eliminate the noise. In addition, I know the GT100 has a sitar simulator, which does have a "buzz" control, make sure that isn't on anywhere. I know you'd notice if that was in the chain somewhere, but just to cover all the bases.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jan 6, 2020 21:52:38 GMT -5
ddd
Does the problem sound happen when playing clean?
If it occurs only with gain/dirt/distortion, it's probably intermodulation that's creating the offending tone and driving you nutty.
This is quite common with modelers, because many players use too much distortion in the signal when a cleaner tone will sound better. Remember that the controls for the effects swing from completely off, to extreme...and the best sounds are always found somewhere within a narrow band of knob tweakage.
Dial back your pre-gain setting and bring the master volume up, and see if that solves the issue.
Here's a pretty good rundown:
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Post by Firebird-V on Jan 10, 2020 10:33:41 GMT -5
I had a Fractal AXE-FXII for a while
Switched back to my Bogner rig and bought a Line 6 M13 to use until Fractal came out with the FX8
The M13 has worked good enough for quite a few years now that I really don't think I will replace it until it dies
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Post by gbfun on Jan 14, 2020 20:55:22 GMT -5
Wow P ! That intermodulation blurb was a brain exploder. Thanks for that !
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