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Post by Davywhizz on Feb 20, 2020 12:51:27 GMT -5
Just curious about who might have done this and how it went. Now that data storage is so much cheaper than it was, there are ways out there to load all your CDs in one digital place, convert vinyl too if you want, make copies at will, search the resulting database to create your own playlists and play any or all of it back, at the original quality, without leaving your armchair. There are some very expensive machines to do all that and it's all very tempting. But so far I like the look of the Brennan B2, which is cheaper than most and seems very well thought through by its inventor. www.brennan.co.uk
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Post by tmc on Feb 20, 2020 14:21:09 GMT -5
I did that a few years ago using Windows media player to rip my CDs to my hard drive. The process of feeding CDs to the computer took a long time, but it's nice to be able to listen to what I want without searching the shelves. As a backup, I uploaded everything to Google Play Music which gives me access to my library where ever I go.
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Post by Taildragger on Feb 20, 2020 15:31:40 GMT -5
Most of the songs I like on the CDs I have also reside in my i-Tunes library, as well as on "cherry-picked compilation" CDs I've burned which contain various artists work within a genre.
Also digitized many songs off LPs before i-Tunes stopped playing nice with the digitizing hardware/software I have.
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Post by ninworks on Feb 20, 2020 15:39:08 GMT -5
I did it about 10 years ago. I used Windows Media Play to rip them as well. My entire collection took about 50GB of drive space. It took me a couple weeks of nights and weekends to do it.
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Post by Chris Greene on Feb 21, 2020 11:07:06 GMT -5
I'd prefer to play the actual CD. That said, I use Spotify and Pandora extensively so I have no issue with streaming. I just won't waste my life ripping music from one format to another. If I'm too lazy to find a CD, I'll punch it up on Spotify.
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Post by bassngtr on Feb 21, 2020 12:57:09 GMT -5
I've done it twice, 2nd time to rip at a higher bit rate. I used EAC (Exact Audio Copy). Took me a few days to do my 100 CDs. Highly recommend EAC. I used Media Monkey to get album art and manage things.
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Post by Davywhizz on Feb 21, 2020 14:00:17 GMT -5
It's the opportunity to preserve the original CD quality which interests me most, plus the benefits of accessing and organising the whole library in one place. I'm not familiar with EAC, but the Brennan B2 (linked in my post above) offers MP3, FLAC or WAV (which I think is also an exact copy of the CD). I imagine other dedicated rippers with storage do similar tricks.
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 21, 2020 14:17:41 GMT -5
No, wish I had. Cant find Electric Ladyland. Unable to find Gypsy Eyes anywhere online.
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Post by ProzaKc on Feb 21, 2020 20:29:54 GMT -5
Yep and backed up to an external drive
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Post by insanecooker on Feb 22, 2020 15:49:18 GMT -5
Yep, with dBpoweramp. I hardly ever listen to the stuff, though...
There’s absolutely no need to get an expensive machine for this. You’ll get no more of a bit-perfect copy than using EAC, dBpoweramp or similar.
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Post by Davywhizz on Feb 23, 2020 3:26:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. I could certainly load and store CD audio files on my laptop with the right software and an external CD drive, but that's the easier part. I also want a neat playback process.To play back from laptop storage, as I understand it, I'd need a good external DAC connected to speakers or headphones. But I'd rather integrate everything with my hifi, hence my interest in a dedicated device which can be a combined CD player, ripper and hard disk storage, which can access album art and track listings automatically and put everything into a searchable database to manage playback from a phone or tablet. It might be more expensive, but it appeals to me and (or maybe because) I can understand it. I may be missing something, not knowing too much about the pc options. I've recently put a few files from the laptop onto a usb stick and played them direct into the hifi, which was fine, but I'm not sure if it could cope with a bigger external hard drive containing hundreds of CDs, or if there would be an easy way to manage that content.
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Post by insanecooker on Feb 23, 2020 7:18:28 GMT -5
I don’t play back from a laptop. I have a server at home with all my files, and everything is just pulled via Ethernet by a network streamer. Another option is using a NAS instead of having it on a PC.
Streaming playback, which includes a DAC, makes a lot of sense. The better ones are better than range-topping CD-players. I get that.
Paying for specialized ripping hardware is the part that doesn’t really make sense as there’s no quality difference with that. Sort out your storage separately and you’ll have way more funds to dedicate to the part that actually matters, which is the streamer and/or DAC.
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Post by Davywhizz on Feb 23, 2020 10:00:44 GMT -5
Sorry, this is new to me - how do you select tracks, make playlists...etc from a streamer? I'm used to the Spotify app and another for Marantz hifi when I'm using USB. I guess that ought to work with a bigger storage device, though it's already a bit slow with a USB stick.
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Post by insanecooker on Feb 23, 2020 11:18:20 GMT -5
You use the streamer’s app. It works much, much better than using an USB stick because with those the streamer cannot really index it in advance so it builds the library in real time and is constrained by that interface.
Plus, the Marantz app really isn’t that great IME.
Look up something like the Bluesound app (for their streamers) and it should give you a good idea of what I’m describing.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Feb 28, 2020 21:30:37 GMT -5
I'd prefer to play the actual CD. That said, I use Spotify and Pandora extensively so I have no issue with streaming. I just won't waste my life ripping music from one format to another. If I'm too lazy to find a CD, I'll punch it up on Spotify. I never take out my CDs anymore, I stream everything. But I’ll still buy some CDs of certain bands to keep my collection “complete”. I have about 300 CDs and definitely do not have the time or desire to put them on a hard drive when Amazon Music has already done the work for me.
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Post by HenryJ on Feb 29, 2020 10:36:34 GMT -5
I don't have all my CDs on my hard drive, but perhaps most of them. Then most of these are downloaded to my iPhone. When we bought our iPhone 8 plusses we got all the storage available, 256 GB. On occasion I play my phone over the car stereo, since the stereo doesn't have a CD player.
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Post by LM on Feb 29, 2020 10:39:37 GMT -5
Rather than ripping entire CD's, I download the songs I like via iTunes and put them on my iPhone. I have about 6 days of music on it and I typically just play them on shuffle.
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Post by HenryJ on Feb 29, 2020 10:55:26 GMT -5
Rather than ripping entire CD's, I download the songs I like via iTunes and put them on my iPhone. I have about 6 days of music on it and I typically just play them on shuffle. Are any of those the shorter songs from Abbey Road, like "Golden Slumbers" or "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window"? I hate it when I'm listening to that album on my phone and shuffle play accidently is turned on.
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Post by hushnel on Feb 29, 2020 12:41:12 GMT -5
I haven’t copied everything to digital, probably 80% or better. I started this years ago for the majority of my CDs, most of the more recent stuff has been CDs I’ve purchased from musicians at their gigs, if I like the band I’ll do buy it as a show of support and appreciation.
I was listening to my ancient iPod today and came across some studio and rehearsal recording of my previous bands. It’s possible that I have the hard copies somewhere, maybe. I lost a lot of stuff in Hurricane Andrew. There is software out there that will move files from iPods to the Mac but I’m not sure which publisher to go with. I don’t have the patience for complicated software now a days, stupid simple is becoming more my style.
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Post by LM on Feb 29, 2020 12:44:36 GMT -5
Rather than ripping entire CD's, I download the songs I like via iTunes and put them on my iPhone. I have about 6 days of music on it and I typically just play them on shuffle. Are any of those the shorter songs from Abbey Road, like "Golden Slumbers" or "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window"? I hate it when I'm listening to that album on my phone and shuffle play accidently is turned on.
I don't have those on my playlist, but I do wish I could tie together two separate tracks such as Foreplay and Longtime from Boston. They play as separate songs.
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Post by Davywhizz on Mar 10, 2020 4:09:06 GMT -5
Following advice here, I've begun to experiment with the free Exact Audio Copy software. It clearly offers a lot, but will take a while to get used to. I missed something on the first CD rip - my fault - and had to enter track names manually. The second attempt was fine and even picked up the album cover art. The rips each took about 20 minutes to get the FLAC files onto my laptop and then I put them on a USB stick as I'm still thinking about longer term options for storage and replay at the hifi end. The stick works, I can select artists, albums and tracks in the Marantz app (which is not the greatest) and the hifi screen confirms we're at CD audio quality. But, for convenience, I'm still tempted, maybe less so now, by an all in one CD player/ripper/hard drive storage box connected direct to the hifi.
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Post by LesTele on Mar 10, 2020 21:03:51 GMT -5
I think that your first purchase should be storage. NAS or standalone SSD. You will be freed from the limits of the USB stick.
The Brennan advert features in a lot of UK newspaper supplements but I have never met anyone who owns one. I don’t think that the Brennan setup is easy to expand, storage wise.
I ripped the bulk of my CD collection in the mid-noughties when iPods were a thing. I still have the files on an external hard drive and can transfer them to my phone as required. I don’t do that very often as I can use streaming services on the go.
I normally listen to music on a system where the oldest component is 30 years old by selecting a CD and inserting it into a CD player.
I also stream music via Amazon Music, Apple Music or Spotify. I use a Marshall Bluetooth setup and it sounds great in circumstances when I can’t be bothered to get out of my chair and pick a CD.
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Post by Davywhizz on Mar 11, 2020 5:17:51 GMT -5
Thanks LesTele. Like you, I've never actually met anyone with a Brennan B2 and I also see a lot of tech issues in their online forum. But I'm not sure if that's about design flaws or simply a company that values and responds to customer engagement and is committed to continuous improvement.
Back here, I've now found that EAC has stopped working, even after I reinstalled it twice, so I now have a free trial version (21 days) of the dBpoweramp software, another Moe's recommendation, and it seems much simpler and quicker than EAC. It's just ripped Brothers in Arms with no issues, at CD quality using FLAC, including listing all the tracks and finding the album cover art, all in half the time of EAC. It's now busy with a Jeff Beck album. So...I guess ripping on the laptop might not be a problem, if I can make a decision on storage and replay options.
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Post by LTB on Mar 13, 2020 12:57:39 GMT -5
Most but not all CD's have been ripped to Harddrive
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Post by Dave on Mar 24, 2020 20:18:47 GMT -5
Did it several years ago for my 400+ CDs using a PC with Nero to rip to iTunes. Somewhat sadly I shortly thereafter discovered Pandora an then Spotify and haven't listened to any of them in maybe five years or more.
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Post by dogspart2 on Apr 6, 2020 18:27:43 GMT -5
Yes.
100% are ripped to
5tb HDD + 5tb HDD backup
about 75% are ripped to 2tb HDD
about 50% are ripped to SSD cards.
all FLAC files.
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