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Post by mountie on Mar 17, 2020 11:56:01 GMT -5
So I see an ad for an Aria Pro II T70, and he's looking for PA gear. So i traded a beat up Peavey CS800 and a couple of Peavey cabs for the guitar, which is set up perfectly and sounds great. Then I noticed it reeks of cigarette smoke. I have dryer sheets in the f-holes at the moment, just to keep the room from humming harder. Any quick easy fixes?
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Post by stratcowboy on Mar 17, 2020 12:05:42 GMT -5
Hmmmm...porous packets of baking soda...maybe?
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 17, 2020 12:55:05 GMT -5
Unstring the guitar and give it a really good cleaning on the exterior. It will make a world of difference.
You certainly could try baking soda. Fresh coffee grounds works too. The problem with these is they are powders, and that can get into the control pots and switch and make things unreliable. You would need to tie them up in small cloth pouches. The best way to get them in there would be to remove one of the pickups and drop 'em in through there.
I'm not familiar with the T70 model so I don't know if there's a solid block of wood and just a rout for each pickup. Is it the thin version of their F70 (F=fat, T-thin)?
Oftentimes much of the smoke smell comes from the guitar's case. The plush lining captures the smoke and the guitar gets stored in there, picking up the funky stank. You can use a hand attachment (upholstery tool) on a carpet cleaner to get all that nastiness out of the case lining. Stand up the case, open, in front of a fan for at least a day to get it nice and dry. You can park the guitar on a stand next to it and the airflow will work wonders to get the stink out of the guitar.
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Post by mountie on Mar 17, 2020 13:59:40 GMT -5
It's a center=block 335 copy with trapeze tailpiece. I hadn't thought of coffee packets. I did park it next to a steaming pot of vinegar and cloves (household remedy for smoke issues)for a few minutes. I'll put the bounce back in until tomorrow and check.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 17, 2020 14:50:42 GMT -5
Dryer sheets are just a scent thing. It would be better to place a wadded paper towel into a small baggie, give it a blast of Febreeze, and stuff that into the guitar body. Put the guitar in the case and close it up for a few days. Note: if the case lining stinks of smoke, deal with that first.
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Post by mountie on Mar 17, 2020 15:18:03 GMT -5
No case...
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Post by waxbytes on Mar 17, 2020 18:42:00 GMT -5
If you clean the the guitar with any good guitar specific cleaner and then leave it somewhere with good air circulation the smell will weaken in a few weeks. This is the only thing I've found that really works.
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Post by jazzguy on Mar 17, 2020 19:21:25 GMT -5
Don't use carpet cleaning crystals in the case, no matter how much you vaccum you'll never get them all out and everytime you open the case they'll be all over the guitar.
You can put coffee grinds on a plate in the case for a week or so. The best thing is uv rays. Leave the case open in the sunlight for a few days to a week, same for the guitar if possible.
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Post by LTB on Mar 17, 2020 19:44:44 GMT -5
Years ago we were given a table and chairs. They wreaked of smoke. Someone suggested using Lemon Oil. We used it and it did eventually remove the smell. Took a while due to the size of the table and 8 chairs. Maybe If you put some on a rag and stuff it inside
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 20:00:22 GMT -5
Charcoal. Go to a pet store and either a charcoal filter insert or a fine mesh bag that you put the charcoal into. The bits of charcoal used in aquarium filters are small but nowhere near a fine powder. Fish wouldn’t dig black water, unless maybe they were goth fish (never say never).
Slide a small filter or bag of that in the f-holes and let it do its thing for a while.
(Please don’t break up some bbq charcoal briquettes instead - that will be all sorts of trouble including a different (and very unhealthy) smell, risky ease of ignition, and picnics).
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 17, 2020 20:33:21 GMT -5
^^^ activated charcoal ^^^
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Post by K4 on Mar 18, 2020 1:28:24 GMT -5
Not sure if I'd spray the inside of a guitar. But There was a power outage at my Mothers second home and she had left food in the fridge. The stench was terrible. I found a product called "Odor-X-it" I sprayed the fridge twice and the smell was gone.
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Post by HenryJ on Mar 18, 2020 7:30:51 GMT -5
I don't have any advice, just some anecdotal information.
In 1982 I bought an acoustic guitar, my Yamaha FG-160, from a cigarette smoker. Bear in mind, this was when a lot of people smoked and smoked in closed-up public places. The guitar reeked of the guys smoke. I wiped off the guitar from time to time, but I think it mainly took time for the smoke smell to wear off.
I think the smoke must have seasoned the wood in a certain way. I don't know how long the guy had it, but the date code shows that the guitar was manufactured in May 1974.
I have found that if you put a capo on the 5th fret and play what would otherwise be G and C chords, the tone sounds just like the acoustic on "You Can't Always Get What You Want." Must be the smoke seasoning.
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Post by sirWheat on Mar 18, 2020 7:57:17 GMT -5
I've never had to deal with issue but have had to deal with cleaning smoke residue from windshields. That stuff is an oily residue that always took at least a few tries with whatever I was using at the time to clear it off. Given a guitar's comparative delicacy it can't be easy. Sorry, just thinking out loud here but I wonder if there's anything that could cut the greasiness without making a mess of the wood. As for treating the smell, I have wondered if Nature's Miracle might work. It has done an amazing job removing cat pee and fecal odors from carpet and furniture, might be worth a try. Doesn't seem like it would damage finishes but I would give it a test before going at it proper.
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Post by thumbpicker on Mar 18, 2020 14:07:24 GMT -5
Most fire restoration places have an ozone room. Pretty much kills any odor inside and out. They just put it in there for a day or two and the ozone does the trick on most smoke related odors. I don’t know about cost. Probably minimal as the room is running anyway. That’s my thoughts. Clean it well as you can and give it to the pros!
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Post by LTB on Mar 18, 2020 17:56:36 GMT -5
Most fire restoration places have an ozone room. Pretty much kills any odor inside and out. They just put it in there for a day or two and the ozone does the trick on most smoke related odors. I don’t know about cost. Probably minimal as the room is running anyway. That’s my thoughts. Clean it well as you can and give it to the pros! This made me think of a product my wife used in my sons car when she drove his car home from Scott AFB in Illinois while he was deployed to a NATO base in Turkey and his car smelled of Cigars. It is an air spray called Ozium
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Post by Stinger22 on Mar 19, 2020 12:40:10 GMT -5
Most fire restoration places have an ozone room. Pretty much kills any odor inside and out. They just put it in there for a day or two and the ozone does the trick on most smoke related odors. I don’t know about cost. Probably minimal as the room is running anyway. That’s my thoughts. Clean it well as you can and give it to the pros! This made me think of a product my wife used in my sons car when she drove his car home from Scott AFB in Illinois while he was deployed to a NATO base in Turkey and his car smelled of Cigars. It is an air spray called Ozium Hotels/Motels use Ozium to spray rooms and I carry a can in my luggage in case a room has odors. Has a clinical smell at first but then it clears and odors are gone.
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Post by mountie on Mar 19, 2020 18:42:05 GMT -5
I bought a case, some activated charcoal and a 10-pack of ankle nylons. Let the de-stink begin!
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Post by LTB on Mar 23, 2020 21:22:15 GMT -5
I bought a case, some activated charcoal and a 10-pack of ankle nylons. Let the de-stink begin! So, how did it do?
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 23, 2020 22:01:43 GMT -5
Yeah, is the smell... [ahem] ex-stink?
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Post by SoK66 on Mar 24, 2020 7:06:15 GMT -5
I recently sold off a '66 Pro Reverb that the previous owner had played since new until the late 80s. He played R&B clubs all over the South. After it got warmed up it gave off a smell that was a combination beer, cigaretts, weed and fried chicken. The reverb driver pan died and I disassembled the old boy for a recap & overhaul. Under the reverb pan bag I found the remnants of a green leafy substance and something that looked like a roach...not the 6 legged kind. After a cleanup the glorious smells were gone.
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Post by mountie on Mar 24, 2020 16:43:38 GMT -5
Bags in yesterday. Next check in 3 days, but this is a very cool guitar...
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Post by HenryJ on Mar 25, 2020 14:47:48 GMT -5
I recently sold off a '66 Pro Reverb that the previous owner had played since new until the late 80s. He played R&B clubs all over the South. After it got warmed up it gave off a smell that was a combination beer, cigaretts, weed and fried chicken. The reverb driver pan died and I disassembled the old boy for a recap & overhaul. Under the reverb pan bag I found the remnants of a green leafy substance and something that looked like a roach...not the 6 legged kind. After a cleanup the glorious smells were gone. LOL at all the smells! But, wouldn't it be a selling point if someone manufactured a tube amp that smells like fried chicken after the tubes warm up?
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Post by HenryJ on Apr 7, 2020 8:16:54 GMT -5
Unstring the guitar and give it a really good cleaning on the exterior. It will make a world of difference. I wouldn't unstring a guitar with a floating bridge. I did that with my Gretsch electromatic 5120 several years ago. I should probably put it in the shop to see if they can do a better job of relocating it than I did.
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Post by mountie on Apr 8, 2020 12:29:58 GMT -5
Appears the charcoal is working; I bought a case. All I can smell now is new-case smell. Thanks all!!
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Post by LTB on Apr 8, 2020 13:08:03 GMT -5
Appears the charcoal is working; I bought a case. All I can smell now is new-case smell. Thanks all!! Awesome, now we all know a good method to rid an object of cigarette smoke!
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Post by mountie on Apr 20, 2020 14:55:35 GMT -5
Forgot to mention I wiped it down thoroughly with Orange Pledge before adding the charcoal. The new case smell was strong, so I left it closed. Check again tomorrow; I'm basically quarantined so it's guitar week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 13:29:40 GMT -5
Glad it worked out!
Now, when do we see pics?
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Post by mountie on Apr 25, 2020 7:08:49 GMT -5
Beyond my abilities, I'm sorry to say. I recall images have to be imported from an approved photo hosting site? That's another foreign concept. Model is TA-70 in sunburst with harp tailpiece. I'm thinking Bigsby if it's not too difficult or expensive.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 25, 2020 7:35:45 GMT -5
Mountie, it's a cinch; if I can do it, you can too because I'm a caveman. Here's how. 1. Go here: imgbb.com/upload. No user account necessary. 2. Click on 'browse from your computer' link in the center of the screen. 3. Navigate to the image on your local machine and double click it. 4. Click the green 'Upload' button. 5. "Upload complete" will be displayed. Double click the little image. It opens to full size. 6. Right click on the image. Left click on 'Copy Image Location'. You can now paste the URL into a message using the Insert Image button here in MT2. This one: When you click that button, a little box pops up. Right click in the Image URL box and backspace to remove the text. Right click on that line and select PASTE. That pastes the URL from IMGBB. Left click the Insert Image button. The image is now in your post.
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