Ayns
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Post by Ayns on Apr 3, 2020 5:22:23 GMT -5
Mike, I got a Casino Coupe last year. It's great, but on reflection, I wish I'd gone for the full size Casino, as it just doesn't look "right" to me. I'm thinking Lennon at the Rooftop concert ;-)
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Post by LTB on Apr 3, 2020 15:10:53 GMT -5
Mike, I got a Casino Coupe last year. It's great, but on reflection, I wish I'd gone for the full size Casino, as it just doesn't look "right" to me. I'm thinking Lennon at the Rooftop concert ;-) Yes, maybe so
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Post by chimpo on Apr 19, 2020 3:07:48 GMT -5
An addendum to this thread: I haven't been able to put my Casino Coupe down since purchasing it. Problem is it has fed my GAS for an ES335. Going back to around 2010/11 I played an Epi Dot in a guitar store because of the ongoing ES335 GAS. I remember not being impressed because the pickups where muddy sounding and no amount of knob twiddling improved it. That was the day I was totally put of Epiphone 'though the build quality seemed OK (not that I looked that hard becasue straight out of the gate it sounded bad). Fast forward: ongoing GAS, impressed by the Casino Coupe, so this weekend I found a shop that had two Epi Dot examples, one red, one vintage sunburst. Things have definitely changed. The pickups have warmth, definition and clarity. The pots have effective use from zero to full (I vaguely remember they were more like on-off switches back in 2010/11). So... I traded a couple of little-used guitars with no cash required. I got a reasonably good deal. Ended up with the vintage sunburst becasue to me it sounded slightly better with a little more clarity and the action is spot on low with zero buzz. I have absolutely enjoyed it and love the playability and range of tones. Cannot fault the build; it has high attention to detail. I have been watching a lot of Gibby ES335 Vs. Dot video comparisons though.....
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Post by reverendrob on Apr 20, 2020 15:24:10 GMT -5
Casino will feed back at volume, even clean.
It's one of the big reasons I have one.
My 339, however, does NOT.
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Post by LesTele on Apr 21, 2020 11:10:55 GMT -5
Casino will feed back at volume, even clean. It's one of the big reasons I have one. My 339, however, does NOT. I’ve had the guitar for a wee while now and the feedback is manageable at my volume levels. I’m very happy with my purchase. I may even turn things up a bit, get the pedals organised and attempt to emulate my fellow Scots Mogwai. Next step is to post a pic. I understand it’s traditional.
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Post by reverendrob on Apr 21, 2020 12:24:30 GMT -5
Yea, at reasonable volume levels it won't howl like a banshee.
I run the HRD at 6 on the master.
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Post by LesTele on Apr 21, 2020 16:34:33 GMT -5
The Corona Casino. Barry approves.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 21, 2020 17:38:27 GMT -5
Very nice!
One nice thing about the Casinos is that they leave you less tempted to start swapping components than some other Epiphones. A LP Std or Dot are great guitars, but they're just begging for someone to play Mr. Potato Head and swap the bridge, tailpiece, pickups, the rest of the electronics... they're great for that sort of thing if that is what you're into, for others it is just an unneeded headache. With the Casinos, I've seen people do some swaps, but the improvements are more incremental. Maybe swapping the bridge if that retainer wire starts driving you nuts ($25 +/- if you're handy with set up stuff on your own, especially if you have nut files handy), but most people are just fine with the stock one.
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Post by guildx700 on Apr 21, 2020 19:42:13 GMT -5
The Sheraton is a Dot with lots of gingerbread. Think of it as a pimped-out 335-alike The Dot is like the Motel 6 of 335s, and the Sheraton is like...the Sheraton. A Casino would be great for you because you currently have no P90-equipped arrow in your quiver. Epiphone Sheraton has different neck wood construction than a Dot. It is a multi ply with walnut strips, the profile feels quite different also:
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Post by LTB on Apr 21, 2020 20:16:07 GMT -5
"Epiphone Sheraton has different neck wood construction than a Dot. It is a multi ply with walnut strips, the profile feels quite different also:"
I used to think those multi ply necks were done as a "cheap" alternative to making a neck but since found they actually increase Neck Strength so I no longer have an issue with doing that.
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Post by guildx700 on Apr 21, 2020 20:49:00 GMT -5
"Epiphone Sheraton has different neck wood construction than a Dot. It is a multi ply with walnut strips, the profile feels quite different also:" I used to think those multi ply necks were done as a "cheap" alternative to making a neck but since found they actually increase Neck Strength so I no longer have an issue with doing that. Agreed. I've found them to be a VERY strong, stable neck. My Guild X700 uses a VERY similar construction, it is more expensive by a long shot than a simple 1 piece maple neck. And on budget guitars like the Dot, they come with a heel cap and a scarf joint headstock to avoid using a larger one piece of maple. Playing a Dot and a Sheraton II for me is like night and day. IMO they are 2 nice, similar, but yet very different guitars in hand.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 21, 2020 21:08:07 GMT -5
"Epiphone Sheraton has different neck wood construction than a Dot. It is a multi ply with walnut strips, the profile feels quite different also:" I used to think those multi ply necks were done as a "cheap" alternative to making a neck but since found they actually increase Neck Strength so I no longer have an issue with doing that. Cheaper... well, sort of. It has more to do with yield from a board. If you cut a flat sawn piece of maple into three pieces, the original board only needs to be 3/4" or 1" thick and not all that wide, whereas if you want a one piece neck, you need a giant brick of quartersawn, and you make much, much more waste in the process. Flat sawn boards are cheap, readily available, and much easier to work around blemishes, and when you turn them 90 degrees to do the laminations they suddenly become quartersawn! Magic! Since a lot of manufacturers will try to push yield on expensive woods too far, things that increase yield sometimes means higher quality, too. Multi-piece is only bad if the pieces are wildly different... I tend to see it more on basses. If one side has very different grain or figure than the other side, it will likely twist in that direction. Twists in general, one piece or multipiece, are caused by some sort of asymmetry. Probably about three quarters of the time when I get a radically twisted/messed up neck, I can flip it over and look at the grain and see exactly what went wrong. Simply knowing how to make a guitar to begin with goes a long way in all that, though, and it becomes a moot point. Otherwise, you're getting something very similar, and yeah, stronger too. Potential tonal differences, but not in the realm that most people are going to pick up on. The resonance of the neck barrel itself will go up a bit (if I remember correctly), and (in my opinion) would likely only be an issue if you're chasing a very specific dragon, like making a replica pre-war D-28 or a '59 Les Paul... multi-piece would be unacceptable for reasons beyond appearance. The other option is the scarf joint, and on some acoustics, multi-piece heels where there are laminations to lengthen the tenon and heel.
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Post by LesTele on Apr 21, 2020 21:41:23 GMT -5
Very nice! One nice thing about the Casinos is that they leave you less tempted to start swapping components than some other Epiphones. A LP Std or Dot are great guitars, but they're just begging for someone to play Mr. Potato Head and swap the bridge, tailpiece, pickups, the rest of the electronics... they're great for that sort of thing if that is what you're into, for others it is just an unneeded headache. With the Casinos, I've seen people do some swaps, but the improvements are more incremental. Maybe swapping the bridge if that retainer wire starts driving you nuts ($25 +/- if you're handy with set up stuff on your own, especially if you have nut files handy), but most people are just fine with the stock one. This was my first ever mail order guitar. In the olden days you could walk into music stores and try guitars. The local shop I wanted to buy the guitar from did not have any Casinos left. I spent a few minutes checking online last night and in the UK if you want a full-size Casino now you’ll need to buy a turquoise one. The retailer I used, based in the north east of England, did a very good job with the set up, so much so that I’m looking at my other instruments and thinking that they might need a bit of TLC once things settle down again. The only giveaway that it was a budget instrument was the tuners. They work but feel less substantial than I’m used to. I’m not looking to change them unless they let me down badly in future. The neck suits me, the combination of P90s and the hollow body gives me a different tone palette and I really like the sheer size of the instrument. Looking at the photo I posted I realised that the Tele was purchased in 1990, the Les Paul in 2005 and the Casino in 2020. I’ll be back in 2035 for advice on my next purchase
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 22, 2020 10:28:09 GMT -5
Very nice! One nice thing about the Casinos is that they leave you less tempted to start swapping components than some other Epiphones. A LP Std or Dot are great guitars, but they're just begging for someone to play Mr. Potato Head and swap the bridge, tailpiece, pickups, the rest of the electronics... they're great for that sort of thing if that is what you're into, for others it is just an unneeded headache. With the Casinos, I've seen people do some swaps, but the improvements are more incremental. Maybe swapping the bridge if that retainer wire starts driving you nuts ($25 +/- if you're handy with set up stuff on your own, especially if you have nut files handy), but most people are just fine with the stock one. This was my first ever mail order guitar. In the olden days you could walk into music stores and try guitars. The local shop I wanted to buy the guitar from did not have any Casinos left. I spent a few minutes checking online last night and in the UK if you want a full-size Casino now you’ll need to buy a turquoise one. The retailer I used, based in the north east of England, did a very good job with the set up, so much so that I’m looking at my other instruments and thinking that they might need a bit of TLC once things settle down again. The only giveaway that it was a budget instrument was the tuners. They work but feel less substantial than I’m used to. I’m not looking to change them unless they let me down badly in future. The neck suits me, the combination of P90s and the hollow body gives me a different tone palette and I really like the sheer size of the instrument. Looking at the photo I posted I realised that the Tele was purchased in 1990, the Les Paul in 2005 and the Casino in 2020. I’ll be back in 2035 for advice on my next purchase I'd fight the temptation to replace the tuners, as well. Going with heavier duty tuners on such a light instrument will affect balance, and will also have a bit more tonal change than you might expect. They feel less substantial, but won't actually be the cause of any tuning problems unless they're actually broken. If they did need replacing, I'd stick with light weight models.
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Post by reverendrob on Apr 22, 2020 17:14:46 GMT -5
My not peace and love model:
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Post by LesTele on Apr 22, 2020 22:03:29 GMT -5
I’m glad I ended up with a more liberal Casino
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 23, 2020 9:30:31 GMT -5
The bonus of a guitar with a thick poly finish... stickers come off really easily.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Apr 23, 2020 21:53:50 GMT -5
The Corona Casino. Barry approves. And I approve of Barry.
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