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Post by digiboy on Mar 28, 2020 23:47:24 GMT -5
I want to be able to jam with my other musician friends via the internet. I know it's being done.
Would like any help, suggestions. Unfortunately my phone is a basic cell, no web access However, I have a PC desktop running 8.1 for internet use. I'm mainly a bass player but I also sing a little so I'd want to set up for doing both.
I know Zoom is the big deal and anyone here using it, I welcome your comments. I'd also like to hear from anyone using other methods besides Zoom. Anyone able to set up jams without a camera using audio only? (mods please go ahead and move this if there is a more appropriate sub forum)
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Post by LTB on Mar 29, 2020 11:25:17 GMT -5
I want to be able to jam with my other musician friends via the internet. I know it's being done.
Would like any help, suggestions. Unfortunately my phone is a basic cell, no web access However, I have a PC desktop running 8.1 for internet use. I'm mainly a bass player but I also sing a little so I'd want to set up for doing both.
I know Zoom is the big deal and anyone here using it, I welcome your comments. I'd also like to hear from anyone using other methods besides Zoom. Anyone able to set up jams without a camera using audio only? (mods please go ahead and move this if there is a more appropriate sub forum)
I had wanted to do this a couple years ago. I came to the conclusion the main factor is how much latency will there be and it can vary from one time to another based on each person's internet speed, internet provider and few other factors. But maybe someone else will have a better answer for you.
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Post by gdw3 on Apr 2, 2020 12:57:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't see how you get around latency. It's a combination of physics and internet speed. Tonight I plan on trying to give my guitar lesson over Facetime. I'm hoping the latency is less than Zoom.
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Post by digiboy on Apr 2, 2020 15:06:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't see how you get around latency.
Yes after more research and asking around, that is the bottom line. The ones I saw that looked like live jams were all done by adding tracks one at a time. Just seems like such an obvious thing that should be possible. But laws of physics say otherwise. There are a couple of apps, Jammr and Jamulus, that claim to overcome lag times by creating an intentional delay. I don't see how that would help. I've been taking a look at both of those, so far I'm not convinced.
Curious to know how your teaching session goes.
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Post by Duke on Apr 6, 2020 11:41:32 GMT -5
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Post by Duke on Apr 6, 2020 11:42:30 GMT -5
A video I saw with them using VSDC :
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Post by gdw3 on May 8, 2020 17:54:22 GMT -5
Curious to know how your teaching session goes.
Yeah, playing together was basically impossible. The only thing we could do was kinda jam randomly, but even that was not really workable. Bummer.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on May 9, 2020 13:49:08 GMT -5
Jamulus works pretty well. The best way to reduce latency is to use a wired connection to your router; wifi drags down the speed.
Also, when you log in, you are offered a choice of several Jamulus servers; each shows the average latency in milliseconds. Don't jump right on the lowest one because you'll probably be faster than others in your jam group. Grab a server that's somewhere in the middle of the latency range and that sort of equals everyone out.
A pal of mine runs his own Jamulus server, but he never uses his own because it puts him out of sync with others.
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Post by twangmeister on May 21, 2020 17:34:16 GMT -5
Tonight I am going to "attend" a jam on Zoom. The latency issue is spooking me. Gotta be longer than a Mellotron.
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Post by Duke on May 21, 2020 19:15:19 GMT -5
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Post by Spotz on Jul 10, 2020 19:27:48 GMT -5
I've recently used JamKazam. Under the right conditions it can be just like jamming in the same room (total latency of around 20 ms or less). In a JamKazam (JK) session, the participants' computers are connected in peer-to-peer mode, bypassing the JK server, which facilitates low-latency jamming.
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