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Post by windmill on Jun 1, 2020 18:48:30 GMT -5
Finally worked out diminished chords.
If you look at a major chord the 3,5, b7 gives a diminished chord !
While a major chord starting on the third of the initial chord will, if you add back the inital root note will, result in an augmented chord.
Every book I have looked at has said there were the 4 types of chords - major,minor, diminished and augmented. I could never work out why the dim and aug were important. None of the songs I liked had any of those chords in them, the Ramones never had them in their tunes
If only I had paid attention all those years ago.....it was just like simple maths after all.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jun 1, 2020 20:04:46 GMT -5
I was doing some learning on the diminished chords a while back myself and discovered that there are really only three of them.
Since all are composed of notes one and a half tones apart, they begin to repeat themselves pretty quickly.
In each of the three variants the voicing of the chord shuffles around, but the notes remain the same.
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Post by Riff Twang on Jun 1, 2020 22:24:04 GMT -5
In relation to a major scale in any key the first, flat third, flat fifth and sixth notes give you a diminished chord.
The first, third, and sharp fifth (or flat sixth) give an augmented chord.
That's the way I relate to them. So yes this means that Adim is an inversion of Cdim and E flat dim and F sharp dim. The notes comprising Fdim and Gdim complete the rest of the possibilities.
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Post by Dr Bass MD on Jun 2, 2020 8:13:57 GMT -5
My mother-in-law, a pianist, taught me a dim chord as being a standard triad with both the 3rd and 5th being flatted. Or - two stacked minor third intervals. The ‘only three’ chords, with various inversions, is very cool, especially on a guitar where you literally repeat the chord everytime you slide the fingering pattern up three frets. Lots of opportunities.
FDPer Seth Rosen (RIP) was big jump blues/swing guy in Cleveland and I got to sub in his band a few times. A fave progression of mine was common in many of those songs. A couple runs of a brisk one; flatted two-dim; minor two; five...finished with a chromatic I-III-IV-bV-V run? He could rip his mandolin all around that progression for days, and I’d never get tired of it.
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Post by HenryJ on Jun 2, 2020 9:43:18 GMT -5
When I was teaching myself how to play guitar, the Mel Bay book used the term "diminished chord" to describe what is actually a "fully diminished 7th chord." As mentioned above, only three exist in nature.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jun 2, 2020 10:43:51 GMT -5
I love diminished, half diminished, and major seventh chords because they seem to open up my ears to melodic possibilities that are never there if left to my own devices of three-major-chord pentatonic wankery.
I remember Seth. He was a cool cat. Badass mando player too.
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