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Post by LTB on Jun 18, 2020 2:52:50 GMT -5
Fender custom shop makes a Relic guitar and then wants $4000? You must be kidding me So convince me. What is so special that would make me want to buy this? Fender Relic Strat
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Post by Riff Twang on Jun 18, 2020 4:00:58 GMT -5
I can't think of a single thing I could say to convince you. I haven't heard of those pickups before, but that's no reason and I wouldn't buy one even though they're probably very nice.
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Post by budg on Jun 18, 2020 4:51:38 GMT -5
4k is a bit on the low side of the custom shop. I do find it odd that they used a reliced neck and body , but shiny hardware and plastic. Of all the strats I have played and owned , the relic neck is by far my favorite in feel.
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Post by Ayns on Jun 18, 2020 4:54:31 GMT -5
All I can say is, that is my all time favourite Strat colour/ board combination. I know a guy with an original 1962 Fiesta Red/ rosewood Strat. The last I heard it was worth about $25k and he's been playing it at every gig since the mid '80's. So.………….. $4k must be a bargain
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 18, 2020 7:10:34 GMT -5
Love the look, probably a terrific Strat.
But for $4k I'd build one in fiesta, one in sonic blue and one in Sherwood green. I'd use my preferred neck profile and fit them with Rumpelstiltskins or Fralins.
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Post by Sharkie on Jun 18, 2020 7:44:58 GMT -5
I guess the only way to be sure (if it was possible), would be to take it out for a test drive and see if it’s worth the bucks. I love the colour.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 18, 2020 7:58:14 GMT -5
I too love Fiesta Red. I once built a Strat with a Warmoth body finished in FR. I think its one of those colors that doesn't translate well in a poly finish. It just didn't hit the mark IMO.
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Post by insanecooker on Jun 18, 2020 8:30:48 GMT -5
Such a shame it's got so many dings on it - probably looked great when new.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jun 18, 2020 8:47:00 GMT -5
"Hurry! Quantities are limited."
C'mon, guys!
You've been commanded to hurry!
I have two CS Fenders. A Strat, which was a gift from my hunnie, and a Tele. Both were bought used, and both are superb guitars.
CS guitar orders do cost big $$$$, but $4K for a non-spec'd (production model) Fender is really steep--especially one that's a copy of a modern Strat. But I'll bet somebody buys 'em.
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Post by Leftee on Jun 18, 2020 9:09:38 GMT -5
I am my own CS.
I’m building a relic Strat now. Just because it seemed like fun.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 18, 2020 9:23:50 GMT -5
I never understood the ferocity of relic hate. Not directed at anyone here but it almost seems like some take it as an affront to their own musicianship, as if the existence of relics will somehow steal away mojo from their own well-worn-30-years-in-smokey-bars Authenticaster. People do unnatural things to their instruments, like relics and stickers. People do unnatural things to their bodies, like tats and piercings and purple hair.
I say its time we get over it.
(walks away giggling)
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Post by Leftee on Jun 18, 2020 9:30:04 GMT -5
I’m finding it’s not easy to make a relic. And you guys might see it and and say, “fail!”
😂
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 18, 2020 10:42:50 GMT -5
Back when relics first became a thing, I was one of the ones who scoffed at the idea, and pointed and laughed....
Until I actually held one and played one. Oh man, what a dream.
I've always had real vintage Fenders ranging from 1964 to late 70s Strats with real age and real wear, and the relics feel just as nice, IMO.
That said I've never spent the money for one, but I bet that one in the link plays great.
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Post by DrKev on Jun 18, 2020 13:15:33 GMT -5
$4k for a pre-beaten two pieces of wood and some wire is just not what I want from a Fender. Suhr or PRS, with my choice of this piece of wood and those frets and those exact unicorn fart smells to my specifications, maybe. But for a strat? It's like going to a Michelin star restaurant when you just want spaghetti meatballs and a decent cuppa joe. Leo Fender was a famous cheapskate who never even played a guitar. Those legendary instruments are legendary both because of, and in spite of, his penny pinching. Like the best food at our favorite diners. $4000 for a pre-beaten off the shelf instrument is anti-Fender to my mind.
Yeah, I'm a bit cranky today. But still.
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Post by LTB on Jun 18, 2020 14:07:08 GMT -5
4k is a bit on the low side of the custom shop. I do find it odd that they used a reliced neck and body , but shiny hardware and plastic. Of all the strats I have played and owned , the relic neck is by far my favorite in feel. That is my problem with this. They took a new guitar, beat it up a bit and some sanding and sell for $4K. Not for me For $4k it better be new looking with fabulous finish, great neck, excellent playability and tone.
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Post by BluzLvr on Jun 18, 2020 17:22:59 GMT -5
I'm guessing this isn't a John Cruz custom Shop relic, since he's been canned for non-PC tweeting. When will folks learn to stay away from the keyboard after imbibing?
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 18, 2020 17:45:17 GMT -5
That is my problem with this. They took a new guitar, beat it up a bit and some sanding and sell for $4K. Not for me For $4k it better be new looking with fabulous finish, great neck, excellent playability and tone.It's not just the beat up finish, it's the extra care the builders take to ensure it DOES have a great neck and it DOES have excellent playability and tone. I'm not a Custom Shop apologist, I've never owned one, and probably never will unless I find a smokin' deal. Is it worth the asking price? That's what buyers have to decide for themselves. Me personally, I wouldn't spend that much, but the money the Custom Shop commands goes way past the beat up finish. There's a really good Youtube video of a tour of the Custom Shop. Each builder has their own office that they deck out and customize to their liking. I'll try to find it. It's pretty interesting.
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 18, 2020 17:47:45 GMT -5
well-worn-30-years-in-smokey-bars Authenticaster. LOL! Good one!
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 18, 2020 17:55:18 GMT -5
Skip to 31:50, it starts the tour of the Masterbuilder cubes. (but the whole video is interesting)
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Post by sirWheat on Jun 18, 2020 18:09:46 GMT -5
I have a problem with paying more than 1k for any solid-body with a bolt-on neck. No offense, I love fenders and all but they're basically cookie-cutter guitars. The only way I see one being "worth" 4k (or more, jeez) would be if I found out that they pay the builders by the hour and let 'em take their time. Maple, Ash, Alder, fret-board-sized blanks of Rosewood ain't that expensive, even the figured varieties.
As for the relic thing, I don't have a problem with the concept but I sure wouldn't pay extra for it.
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Post by budg on Jun 18, 2020 18:16:07 GMT -5
4k is a bit on the low side of the custom shop. I do find it odd that they used a reliced neck and body , but shiny hardware and plastic. Of all the strats I have played and owned , the relic neck is by far my favorite in feel. That is my problem with this. They took a new guitar, beat it up a bit and some sanding and sell for $4K. Not for me For $4k it better be new looking with fabulous finish, great neck, excellent playability and tone. To each their own. I don’t shine my guitars up, just wipe them down when I get done playing them . My favorite acoustic Is my 72 d35, dings ,scratches , checking and all. Shiny , dull, dinged up , a good guitar is a good guitar.
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Post by Ayns on Jun 19, 2020 5:48:36 GMT -5
I've never owned a CS Strat, but I've played a couple.
I've also played original '62 and '63 Strats, and own a '76 Strat an all I can say is... the CS Strats were *much* better guitars in terms of feel, tone and playability. I still wouldn't pay $4k for one. The closest I've got is my Bill Nash '65 Strat and my AVRI '62 Hot Rod (with Bareknuckle Slowhand pups), which are both excellent guitars and both of which were <£1,500.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 19, 2020 9:05:44 GMT -5
To me $4k should afford you something with considerable more craftsmanship. Forget the relic'ing, there just isn't enough there in totality to be worth that kind of money, unless the Fender decal qualifies. Guitars I'd consider for that amount would be along the lines of the Gibson Historics, LP & ES-335, higher end Martin acoustics or custom built acoustics. And since I've never spent $4k on any guitar it's clear I don't have enough disposable income.
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Post by budg on Jun 19, 2020 10:06:28 GMT -5
To me $4k should afford you something with considerable more craftsmanship. Forget the relic'ing, there just isn't enough there in totality to be worth that kind of money, unless the Fender decal qualifies. Guitars I'd consider for that amount would be along the lines of the Gibson Historics, LP & ES-335, higher end Martin acoustics or custom built acoustics. And since I've never spent $4k on any guitar it's clear I don't have enough disposable income. Maybe revisit the price of Gibson Historics . They are going for crazy money these days. It isn’t the relicing that is raising the price so much as the rest of the process. Higher end Martins seem to start at about 6k. I bought my CS shop strat 5 years ago for less than 3k.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 19, 2020 10:36:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of the used market of historics and customs.
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Post by budg on Jun 19, 2020 11:29:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of the used market of historics and customs. Sure, but then again a used custom shop relic can be had for less than 2k if you look hard enough.
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Post by pcalu on Jun 20, 2020 8:14:56 GMT -5
Fender custom shop makes a Relic guitar and then wants $4000? You must be kidding me So convince me. What is so special that would make me want to buy this? Fender Relic Strat "What is so special that would make me want to buy this? " Absolutely nothing!
I have a theory about these "super expensive" Fender, Gibson... "Or whoever" Custom shop builds.
My Theory: Only two types are buying these
A) the "Real" professional ... by "Real" I mean "Major Recording Artist" who has the bank account to afford to play these and the 1950s-1960 vintage stuff. B) White collar professionals going through a midlife crisis. It's these and 2020 Corvette... After a while one sits in the garage, the other hangs on the wall of the Den/home office never to be played again.
NO working musician I know are remotely interested in these (Heck there is no way we could afford them lol.)
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Post by LM on Jun 20, 2020 9:55:37 GMT -5
Personally, I never 'got' the whole relic thing. Certainly not at $4000. Tastes very.
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Post by budg on Jun 20, 2020 10:40:46 GMT -5
The price of guitars overall have gotten crazy. Regular production guitars for both are around 2k or better. Les Paul standards at 2400 , with 335s over 3. Even the Fender Originals are over 2k now. As far as Custom Shop Fender’s, they start at 4K. Not really marketed to most of us anyways. The relic finish isn’t what raises the price so much as the “special”attention they receive. Whether or not that attention is worth the extra money is decided by the individuals taste and checking account. There does appear to be guitars for every budget , so it’s a win win really.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 20, 2020 14:33:18 GMT -5
I personally don't feel compelled to call into question the legitimacy of any player/Fender enthusiast willing to pay that kind of coin. I have 4 parts Strats that I'd compare to any production "custom shop" unit that in totality probably ran me $5k or less. That's how I choose to roll.
And to add: If I didn't know how to file a nut, dress frets, adjust a trussrod, rattlecan a clear finish on a neck, etc. I reckon I might pay a little extra for a production guitar.
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