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Post by stratcowboy on Jul 6, 2020 8:34:50 GMT -5
Even in Dodge City, Wyat Earp allowed gun fire on the 4th of July and Jan 1st. We're supposed to be evolving as a species. Oh well. We're screwed.
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Post by tahitijack on Jul 6, 2020 9:12:08 GMT -5
In Los Angeles neighborhood fireworks were a great success. Several homes burned to the ground along with apartment complex. Fire Department got 3,000 calls. On a normal day the receive 1,400 calls. Side bar to this is most insurance policies have an exclusion for damages caused by fireworks. Local news chopper flying above the city showed almost every block had huge rockets bursting in air.
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Post by stratcowboy on Jul 6, 2020 9:40:21 GMT -5
Side bar to this is most insurance policies have an exclusion for damages caused by fireworks. I'm sure those who were impacted by these events are glad to have made the sacrifice to be seen as great patriots. Living on the streets with all your possessions in ashes is a small price to pay so that folks can have a great time.
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Post by K4 on Jul 6, 2020 10:03:15 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the insurance exclusion is if it is your fireworks. Not the moron down the street.
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Post by jhawkr on Jul 6, 2020 10:07:25 GMT -5
Well, we had a safe fun cookout and fireworks in the driveway along with many of the neighbors. When I had my labradors it was never an issue because they were gun dogs, exposed to loud noises as puppies. My son’s Great Pyrenees dog was hanging out at the fence watching her kids (grandkids).
Back when I was in my 30’s, 40’s I shunned the fireworks too as I thought they were a waste. But, I changed my mind when I saw how much joy the grandkids got out of it. Lots of things are inherently dangerous but we weigh risk vs benefit and choose accordingly. For instance, I won’t go swimming in the ocean. Too dangerous with the sharks, rip tides, jellyfish, MOW’s, etc. Many disagree.
It was James Madison, founding father, VP and President who encouraged fireworks 🧨 and celebrations on the 4th.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jul 6, 2020 11:27:35 GMT -5
Several people badly hurt by bullets falling back to the ground. Do you have a link from a reliable source that supports that claim? No responsible gun owner would fire a bullet in the air, it violates the 4th rule of firearm safety -- #4 Be sure of your target and what lies beyond it. Forgive my skepticism, but if you heard this on Facebook or the LA Times, it probably didn't happen. I could believe it if it were Chicago. Silicon Valley, not so much. I don't deny that it has happened in the past, I just have trouble believing that it happened "several" times in one night in the same area. It smells like someone once again distorting facts to crap on gun owners.
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Post by Taildragger on Jul 6, 2020 11:37:43 GMT -5
The city of San Francisco saw at least 100 fires between 3 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. Saturday.
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Post by jhawkr on Jul 6, 2020 12:42:50 GMT -5
There was no mention of fires or serious casualties in Wichita. I heard no sirens during the evening and I live within 2 blocks of a fire station/police substation.
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Post by K4 on Jul 6, 2020 13:08:41 GMT -5
No fires here either. There were so many people shooting fireworks I had an 1/8 inch of ash on my car.
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Post by stratcowboy on Jul 6, 2020 16:04:01 GMT -5
distorting facts to crap on gun owners. I'm a gun owner. And actively use it several times a week. And I've seen plenty of stupid ones. Just like the rest of the population. Gun owners have no monopoly on IQ.
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Post by windmill on Jul 6, 2020 20:21:19 GMT -5
It is good to hear that so many people were celebrating your national day.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jul 7, 2020 12:13:29 GMT -5
distorting facts to crap on gun owners. I'm a gun owner. And actively use it several times a week. And I've seen plenty of stupid ones. Just like the rest of the population. Gun owners have no monopoly on IQ. If you had quoted my entire post it would be clear that I said *responsible* gun owners. I don't know where you live so I don't know what your 2A climate is like. In my state we are constantly in danger of losing what is left of our natural right to bear arms. We are a small community -- less than 15% of the population are licensed to carry guns. We take gun safety very seriously, if we see someone doing something stupid most of us will call them on it and correct them. We have too much to lose to allow a handful of idiots to give the antis ammunition to further restrict our right.
To my point, I have not been able to find any evidence that "several" people were hit by falling bullets over the holiday weekend -- and no one here has produced any. I expect the story is a fabrication.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Jul 7, 2020 12:21:08 GMT -5
If this is real, it's insane! We did our family display at my FIL's farm. There were at least 3 other displays going within a half mile of where we were.
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Post by stratcowboy on Jul 7, 2020 16:31:16 GMT -5
I said *responsible* gun owners Fair enough. if we see someone doing something stupid most of us will call them on it I have certainly done so. Other times it is not the safest approach.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 12, 2020 19:54:12 GMT -5
I am quite surprised, after about 3 weeks of fireworks every night, we’ve had zero after the 4th. I expected there to be stragglers, but it seems they all quite literally shot their collective loads on the 4th.
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Post by rangercaster on Jul 12, 2020 21:52:46 GMT -5
I set off two cases of dynamite ...
The cops came and offered to buy any I had left ... but we couldn't agree on a price ... so they left ...
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