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Post by gato on Jul 22, 2020 6:50:31 GMT -5
For those who want to rough it in the great outdoors by camping, but lack the requisite intestinal fortitude to endure sleeping on the ground, or making an actual fire, there's always "glamping". The sun peaks over the distant mountains, a fleeting misty fog retreats, but you're not nursing cranky vertebrae or brushing twigs from your hair as you rise from your full size bed (queen available) with feather-filled comforter. A touch on your glamping app and coffee appears at the archway of your 20 x 20 tent, carried on a tray by your personal camping assistant. He presents today's menu and you touch the items that appeal to you: eggs over easy, bacon, home fries, toast.... Your app dings.. the shower stall you selected last night is ready for you. You walk gingerly allow the paved trail to the shower area, marveling at the wildlife in the area,shown on your provided iPad ..... You get the idea. It's camping, but with upgrades. There are still obstacles that even Lewis and Clark would have struggled to overcome: spotty wi-fi, wrong brand of bread at breakfast, a determined mosquito that eluded all the anti-mosquito grids. I dunno. To me, camping isn't glamping, or even "roughing it" in an RV with a satellite dish. The times they are a changin'. www.undercanvas.com/glamping-the-outdoor-experience-improved/
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Post by Bronx on Jul 22, 2020 9:25:49 GMT -5
I don't know how I survived before the Internet. Seems so primitive now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 9:27:11 GMT -5
Spotty wifi? I sure hope there’s data coverage. How am I going to post my outfit on Instagram?
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Jul 22, 2020 9:27:14 GMT -5
Our version of camping was closer to the tent version than glamping. We had a 32' travel trailer that we slept in (A/C, queen size bed, real toilet), but other than that, we did everything like we would if we were tent camping:
Cook outside Do dishes outside (heat water on the fire or campstove) "live" outside (really only slept and toileted in the camper) No TV Campfires etc.
Other than sleeping, we really spent very little time in the camper. Having a fridge is very nice. We did all of the cooking over the fire, with camp stoves, grills or with dutch ovens.
I never understood the people who drag a camper out to a campground, then do everything in their camper. They sit in there a cook, do dishes inside, then fire up the satellite TV and watch the boob tube. What's the point?
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Post by gato on Jul 22, 2020 10:00:41 GMT -5
Our version of camping was closer to the tent version than glamping. We had a 32' travel trailer that we slept in (A/C, queen size bed, real toilet), but other than that, we did everything like we would if we were tent camping: Cook outside Do dishes outside (heat water on the fire or campstove) "live" outside (really only slept and toileted in the camper) No TV Campfires etc. Other than sleeping, we really spent very little time in the camper. Having a fridge is very nice. We did all of the cooking over the fire, with camp stoves, grills or with dutch ovens. I never understood the people who drag a camper out to a campground, then do everything in their camper. They sit in there a cook, do dishes inside, then fire up the satellite TV and watch the boob tube. What's the point? I think it counts as camping if they have a live feed camera displaying the outdoors, on at least one TV inside the camper. (If an actual fly gets in, that counts the same as a black bear sighting around the campground)
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jul 22, 2020 10:17:15 GMT -5
Now this was camping. Backyard Detroit, mid-1960's. Cigarettes and playboys strategically stashed.
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Jul 22, 2020 10:36:55 GMT -5
My definition of camping? A hotel with no room service and bad Internet.
It's as far as I'll go.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jul 22, 2020 10:48:09 GMT -5
Once upon a time we enjoyed real hardcore primitive camping, but we had young bodies that could sleep anywhere and somehow ignore the heat and mosquitoes and inevitable grunge, and still have fun. Let's just say those days are past and while I still enjoy the great outdoors I now require much more in the way of creature comforts.
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Post by Taildragger on Jul 22, 2020 12:24:01 GMT -5
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Post by BigBadJohn on Jul 22, 2020 12:28:46 GMT -5
My definition of camping? A hotel with no room service and bad Internet. It's as far as I'll go. This ^^^^^^
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 22, 2020 13:06:50 GMT -5
Now this was camping. Backyard Detroit, mid-1960's. Cigarettes and playboys strategically stashed. I was a backyard camper also. No cigarettes, stuff worse than playboy, and when we got a little too old (14-ish) to be camping in the backyard, we smuggled in some girls. They didn’t stay overnight but still, it was a brilliant plan and was well executed.
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Post by herb on Jul 22, 2020 13:29:58 GMT -5
I've upgraded from a one man bivy shelter or a two man backpacking tent to a tent you can stand up in. Oh yes, with a cot! Still like to cook on my old two burner Coleman stove. Don't do any overnight backcountry camping any longer. I find a base camp, set up my tent and do day hikes. Last summer me and my buddy did a 22 mile loop in one day. He's 68, I'm 66. Much easier with daypacks than with overnighters weighing 35-40 lbs that we did when we were younger.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 15:44:26 GMT -5
I've upgraded from a one man bivy shelter or a two man backpacking tent to a tent you can stand up in. Oh yes, with a cot! Still like to cook on my old two burner Coleman stove. Don't do any overnight backcountry camping any longer. I find a base camp, set up my tent and do day hikes. Last summer me and my buddy did a 22 mile loop in one day. He's 68, I'm 66. Much easier with daypacks than with overnighters weighing 35-40 lbs that we did when we were younger. I hear you. I've been following the ultra light gang for a bit and have reduced things to a tarp instead of a tent and, without food and water, down to somewhere between 12 and 14 lbs depending on the clothing I'm taking along. I like the basecamp idea. Since covid came along, I'm restricted a bit to day hikes/long rides where I can make it back to the house. That's just a sling bag with the ten essentials, so super light. Still fun though.
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Post by gato on Jul 22, 2020 16:07:03 GMT -5
My dad used to take us camping in the Mount Rainier area in Washington. Tent, camp fire, hiking, the whole enchilada.
Then my Uncle Sam sent me "camping" for a year, and ruined the activity for me, forever after.
We had scorching heat, followed by drenching monsoons, clouds of mosquitoes, ringworm, leeches, scorpions, centipedes, rats, snakes... our modern comforts included an Army issue air mattress (no repair kits!), a rubberized poncho, and a couple of sticks of C4 per man, to use for cooking (burns really hot in small chunks!)
Oh ... forgot to mention... there were some other really impolite campers in the same area, who resented our squatting in their pristine swamps, jungles and mud pits. They were downright rude, what with their AK-47's, RPG's and what not.
The only 'glamping' going on was my buttcheeks slamming together when "the neighbors" dropped in unexpectedly to shoot off fireworks.
My camping now is limited to snoozing in a hammock in my back yard.
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Post by Stratluvr on Jul 23, 2020 10:48:08 GMT -5
I can understand how camping might be fun when you're a teenager or in your twenties but not as a grown man. I need my comforts. Plus, I would never go camping with my wife. I don't need to hear complaining just because things are a little difficult.
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Post by herb on Jul 23, 2020 11:43:38 GMT -5
I can understand how camping might be fun when you're a teenager or in your twenties but not as a grown man. I need my comforts. Plus, I would never go camping with my wife. I don't need to hear complaining just because things are a little difficult. Even as I approach 70 I feel it is good for my soul to be put in my place every now and then.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 23, 2020 11:46:55 GMT -5
I can understand how camping might be fun when you're a teenager or in your twenties but not as a grown man. I need my comforts. Plus, I would never go camping with my wife. I don't need to hear complaining just because things are a little difficult. Even as I approach 70 I feel it is good for my soul to be put in my place every now and then. I would say that’s painting with too broad of a brush. I don’t think age is the determining factor. That said, for me, I agree. I don’t need to pee in the woods, a nice hotel is much more my speed.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jul 23, 2020 12:16:23 GMT -5
I understand the appeal of rustic camping, the kind like hushnel does. Primitive camping, not far removed from how it was done before we became dependent on technology, conveniences and luxury. It's a connection with the real Earth. My family camped in Michigan's upper peninsula when I was a toddler. Bear were sniffing around our tent. We camped in Colorado when I was 3. The conveniences were already there; a cooler and a Coleman stove, not to mention the 62 Chevy station wagon that got us there. When I was 21 I did a 110 mile canoe trip in northern Ontario. Lakes, rivers, white water, bear and treacherous terrain (first portage was 3/4 mile and a rise of 900 feet). Luck got us through that one as we were grossly unprepared and inexperienced.
If I were younger and healthier I would consider trying some primitive camping. But I ain't and my wife won't have any part of it, so...
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Post by Taildragger on Jul 23, 2020 12:18:06 GMT -5
I was big into back-packing when I was in my 20s. Once I got married and had kids, it pretty much became car camping with day hikes. More recently, it's been car camping at State Beaches as a base for surfing in surrounding areas.
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Post by FlyonNylon on Jul 23, 2020 13:28:27 GMT -5
Have never been glamping but have no objection to it.. Compared to backpacking or even motorcycle camping, car (truck) camping is basically glamping. I go pretty frequently; a few trips each spring/fall and maybe a night or two boat camping in the summer. Have all the gear in a large plastic tote and just throw it in the bed of the truck, dogs in the rear cab and off we go. With modern sleeping pads, hammock, etc it is extremely easy and comfortable. There's some great backpacking close by but I usually drive an hour or two up into the Cherokee National Forest (southern Appalachians) and camp at one of the dispersed spots by a trout stream. There are hundreds of little spots off the side of fire roads throughout the NF and a few are really special. My favorite spots have a hundred or so yards of secluded creek with several waterfalls for a single camp site, so you have lots of space and don't worry about the dogs running off or into the road, etc. Can swim, fish, hike, etc right from your campsite. All free except for the trout stamp. Setting up camp takes like 5 minutes then you have 24 or so hours of seclusion in paradise. No screens, no cell service. I grew up camping a lot in national parks but prefer the forest these days since you can take dogs, it's free, and there are basically no rules so you are free to just do whatever you want.
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Post by rickyguitar on Jul 24, 2020 23:31:34 GMT -5
Camping used to mean seeing no one else. Hard to find now. Never been a camper guy, prefer tents.
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Post by GmanNJ on Jul 25, 2020 8:02:52 GMT -5
in 1994 a group of us got together to celebrate our 1984 college graduation Adirondack back pack camp trip We still do it today- same 7 guys from all parts of the US. We fly and drive and make it to Big Pond NY for wilderness camping. Limited sites, no showers, no toilet, no cell service but a huge pond (80ft deep) to float in and drink beer
Being engineers we made a battery powered rotisserie to cook over the fire coals and the only traditional camping food is hot dogs on Sunday when we break down. Its 4 days of freedom (no work, no cell), and great friends. Over the years we upgraded to air mattresses, better innovations for the out house, cots, and I bring a porta-poti in a shower tent (3x3 and 7ft tall). So gourmet foods (that we prepare), self contained kegerator (no eletricity) for home brew and more hard liquor
Here is Budstock 2015 and the base camp set up
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Post by Seldom Seen on Jul 26, 2020 14:09:18 GMT -5
I am friends with a married couple who went Glamping in Africa. I can see myself doing that as often as I enjoy a trip to a day spa, which is NEVER!
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