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Post by NoSoapRadio on Aug 3, 2020 15:24:22 GMT -5
They get a bad rap IMO and I think it's because of the "Con". What if we call them Pro-spiracy theories and try to look at the bright side.
Maybe JFK was never in Dealey Plaza in 1963. And maybe Marilyn Monroe didn't really get Arkancided. Maybe JFK was just sick of Jackie O and wanted out. He and Fidel made up the Cuban missile crisis -- Fidel got to keep his missiles in exchange for setting up a sweet palace for JFK and Marilyn to live out their days playing hide the ICBM. Abe Zapruder was the godfather of CGI -- he was a wiz at editing Super 8. JFK paid him a boatload to fake the film and then later pass it on to Oliver Stone.
Maybe Elvis didn't die on the crapper in 1977. Maybe he was just tired of the Paparazzi taking photos of his fat ass and he just wanted to be left alone. He convinced Colonel Sanders to sell him all his white suits so he could travel around the country eating greasy fried chicken in peace.
Just spitballin'
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Post by Leftee on Aug 3, 2020 15:31:09 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Aug 3, 2020 15:37:26 GMT -5
Actually... Elvis and JFK.
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Post by LM on Aug 3, 2020 15:42:42 GMT -5
Maybe Jim Morrison is with Kurt Cobain on an island somewhere drinking Dos Equis.
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Post by gato on Aug 3, 2020 16:05:32 GMT -5
Johnny Carson interviewed Elvis in 1988
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Post by Leftee on Aug 3, 2020 16:06:39 GMT -5
I saw three different Elvis’ at a flea market in TN about 20 years ago.
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Post by gato on Aug 3, 2020 16:35:09 GMT -5
I saw three different Elvis’ at a flea market in TN about 20 years ago. Try cutting back on the home brew. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 17:21:02 GMT -5
All of those sound MUCH more plausible than the ones I've heard recently. Ah, the days of cool conspiracy theories...sigh
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Aug 3, 2020 17:35:54 GMT -5
Maybe the moon is made of green cheese and out over the horizon .. there be dragons there.
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Post by tahitijack on Aug 3, 2020 17:45:42 GMT -5
These nice people are currently residents of Galt's Gulch in Colorado...
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Post by Leftee on Aug 3, 2020 17:46:28 GMT -5
I saw three different Elvis’ at a flea market in TN about 20 years ago. Try cutting back on the home brew. Dood, fer reels! I never saw them together though. 🤔 |
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Post by Ragtop on Aug 3, 2020 17:57:46 GMT -5
"...hide the ICBM."
**snort!**
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Post by gato on Aug 6, 2020 8:40:15 GMT -5
"Humanity is unknowingly trapped inside a simulated reality, the Matrix, created by intelligent machines to distract humans while using their bodies as an energy source."
Spoiler: one pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small.
The ones that Mother gives your? Don't ask!
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Post by rangercaster on Aug 6, 2020 9:24:00 GMT -5
Elvis is still alive and the moon landings were a hoax ...
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 6, 2020 9:32:27 GMT -5
To deny conspiracy theories doesn't mean that you deny that conspiracies exist. Conspiracy theories are a psychological phenomenon IMO, and involve an obstinate and obsessive view maintained by highly selective data. One hallmark is when people say "do your research" or "look at the facts" but provide no research or facts.
My first year of college had a "professor" that loved conspiracy theories. He would dismissively shake his head at anything I said and patristically say "that's just what they want you to believe". That was my only year at that college, and the school no longer exists. I think he relocated to South America.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Aug 6, 2020 10:10:13 GMT -5
I was watching a youtube video of filmmaker S.G. Collins debunking the conspiracy that the Apollo 11 moon landing was filmed in a TV studio, and at the end he makes a personal observation about conspiracy theories in general.
"That step from knowing that you've been lied to, and believing that everything else is a lie is a big step. Once you're foced to hypothesize whole new technologies to keep your conspiracy theory possible then you've stepped over into the realm of magic. It demands a deep and abiding faith in things that you can never know. It's like you have to cling to your belief system with all your might against the overwhelming evidence of your own rational mind, and some people do"
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Post by rickyguitar on Aug 6, 2020 11:38:53 GMT -5
I thought Elvis was alive and living on the moon....
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Post by Mfitz804 on Aug 6, 2020 11:40:35 GMT -5
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Post by theprofessor on Aug 6, 2020 15:29:36 GMT -5
“My first year of college had a "professor" that loved conspiracy theories. He would dismissively shake his head at anything I said and patristically say "that's just what they want you to believe". That was my only year at that college, and the school no longer exists. I think he relocated to South America.“
Man, I hate crappy professors. They can do so much damage.
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Post by professor on Aug 6, 2020 16:47:26 GMT -5
Hey !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 16:58:59 GMT -5
surprised the 'CIA killed Morrison, Hendrix and Joplin' is not here. Of course, this will probably kill the thread as a bad smelling fart is now considered a political thread  |
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Post by LTB on Aug 6, 2020 17:00:57 GMT -5
My first year of college had a "professor" that loved conspiracy theories. He would dismissively shake his head at anything I said and patristically say "that's just what they want you to believe". That was my only year at that college, and the school no longer exists. I think he relocated to South America. Have you ever considered he was an Alien and they beamed him to the mothership?  |
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Post by Mfitz804 on Aug 6, 2020 19:40:13 GMT -5
surprised the 'CIA killed Morrison, Hendrix and Joplin' is not here. Of course, this will probably kill the thread as a bad smelling fart is now considered a political thread We’re pretty liberal as to what is or is not a political post here. Mentioning the CIA isn’t political in itself. |
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Post by MJB on Aug 7, 2020 5:04:46 GMT -5
Paul is still not dead.
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Post by gato on Aug 7, 2020 5:40:51 GMT -5
He was replaced by Paul McCarthy. The artist who makes giant inflatable dog turds. Shhhhh... it's all in my earlier thread. |
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Post by professor on Aug 7, 2020 8:42:41 GMT -5
I recommend "Foucault's Pendulum" , which is a satirical novel by the Italian writer philosopher Umberto Eco. It's is a wildly elaborate and really meta work about conspiracies, as facts and fictions driven by human nature. from Wikipedia- " Eco's novel predated the Da Vinci phenomenon by more than a decade, but both novels are concerned with the Knights Templar, complex conspiracies, secret codes, and even a chase around the monuments of Paris. Eco does so, however, from a much more critical perspective; Foucault is more a satire on the futility of conspiracy theories and those who believe them, rather than an attempt to proliferate such beliefs. Eco was asked whether he had read the Brown novel; he replied: I was obliged to read it because everybody was asking me about it. My answer is that Dan Brown is one of the characters in my novel Foucault's Pendulum, which is about people who start believing in occult stuff.
– But you yourself seem interested in the kabbalah, alchemy and other occult practices explored in the novel.
No. In Foucault's Pendulum I wrote the grotesque representation of these kind of people. So Dan Brown is one of my creatures."
Noted in Wikipedia-" The following list among the groups that appear in Foucault's Pendulum. They include, in alphabetical order, Assassins of Alamut, Bavarian Illuminati, Bogomils, Cabalists, Candomblé, Cathars, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Elders of Zion, Freemasons, Gnostics, Jesuits, Knights Templar, Opus Dei, Ordo Templi Orientis, Panta Rei and the Rosicrucians."
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Post by Leftee on Aug 7, 2020 9:07:44 GMT -5
^ that sounds like a great read.
They left out Elvis and the Mummy, though.
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Post by HenryJ on Aug 7, 2020 9:24:44 GMT -5
My late brother subscribed to a conspiracy theory about A-440, associating it with Hitler and others. One year when we jammed, we set our snarks to A-426. If you play a Gretsch Electromatic with 9s, do NOT tune down to A-426. Chords will be out of tune.
He eventually changed his mind about A-440. He must have read that it was debunked.
And I restrung my Gretsch will 11s. A-440.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 9:38:10 GMT -5
I actually love conspiracy theories. I find them fascinating. I like discussing them, dissecting them, weighing the merits of the points within a theory. Sometimes I can poke a hole in a theory. Sometimes I can't seem to find a weakness and it gives me pause. I actually like that. It keeps me sharp. What I really like is how intelligent and level headed the people are who have these theories. They are thinkers. They are not followers. They don't believe everything they are told simply because they were told. I have never once in my life seen a tin foil hat or talked to a person with a conspiracy theory who seemed to be off kilter. The stereotype is completely false in my experience. I want to meet more people with conspiracy theories. I love tossing things this way and that, looking for holes. I especially love it if I can't find a hole because just like these people, I too am a thinker and not a follower and I love a good challenge. I have never understood why these people are ridiculed and harassed and treated without dignity. We need more of these people in the world. People who test everything, take nothing for granted, have the balls to imagine something different. How will we ever solve the problems in this world without people like these? Simply having an education is not enough. There are tons of people out there with PhDs who just blend in with the world and do nothing of significance to change the world for the better beyond perhaps affecting the life of a person or two as they are being paid to do. It is exactly the kind of personality that is attracted to conspiracy theories that we need more of and we need to see them educated, hopefully without extinguishing their spirit in the process, We need to encourage them, not browbeat them or ridicule them. One day the nerds are going to save us all and it will no longer be the quarterback who gets first choice of all the pretty girls.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Aug 7, 2020 9:40:08 GMT -5
He was replaced by Paul McCarthy. The artist who makes giant inflatable dog turds. Shhhhh... it's all in my earlier thread. Now THAT is a guy who should be married to Yoko Ono, given his affinity for turd art forms. |
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