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Post by digiboy on Sept 5, 2020 6:13:33 GMT -5
I know this sort of thing is being done with Pro Tools and probably others like Ableton. I'm looking for a simpler form. Possibly this would be a cloud app that stores a multi-track recording on line. Players add their own track individually by playing along while hearing the existing tracks. Seems to me latency wouldn't be an issue, or at worst, latency would be easy to correct during playback. Does such a thing exist?
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Sept 5, 2020 7:07:06 GMT -5
In real time? You need something like Jamulus llcon.sourceforge.netIt rides on a bunch of servers all over the world; you can host it on your own server too. The idea is to reduce latency by reducing server load/distributed hosting, but there's a catch: if you host a Jamulus session on your own server, you may have close to zero latency but other players far away will experience it. There's no way to completely get rid of the latency, but you can look at the main Jamulus site and it shows all servers and their current latency. You grab the one with low numbers. Not in real time? You certainly can easily collaborate. It helps if the people you're working with are using the same DAW you are because that allows you to export the project file, hang it in the cloud (Dropbox, Google Drive, etc.), and your musical co-conspiritor can grab the file and import it into their DAW. Emailing a project file is often a no-go due to the size of the data files.
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Post by digiboy on Sept 5, 2020 7:23:01 GMT -5
In real time? No, not in real time. I'm all too familiar with Jamkazam and similar. They are making progress but still hopelessly confusing and complicated and they deliver mixed results at best, Not in real time? You certainly can easily collaborate. It helps if the people you're working with are using the same DAW you are because that allows you to export the project file, hang it in the cloud (Dropbox, Google Drive, etc.), and your musical co-conspiritor can grab the file and import it into their DAW. Emailing a project file is often a no-go due to the size of the data files. Yes, not in real time. I'm hoping there is some kind of on line simplified multi track recording app that resides in or utilizes cloud storage . This would unify the process instead of trying to deal with different DAWs that people have at home. It would also provide an option for players who don't have their own DAW to contibute a track.
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Post by FlyonNylon on Sept 5, 2020 8:19:20 GMT -5
Bandlab is the only online DAW that I know.
You could also export stems as .wav files and it will work in any DAW.
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Post by digiboy on Sept 5, 2020 17:10:57 GMT -5
Bandlab is the only online DAW that I know. Bandlab looks very promising. On the surface it looks to be exactly what I had in mind. Have to investigate further but I'm very hopeful. Thanks for the tip, guys!
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Post by ninworks on Sept 5, 2020 18:21:38 GMT -5
I record guitar, bass, and vocal, tracks for clients all over the world. I just have them send me a stereo mix as an mp3 file. I import that into Pro Tools and apply my overdubs. Then I upload the hi res wav files I recorded to either Dropbox or Google Drive and send them the link where they can download them. Then all they have to do is import those tracks into their session and then they can mix them in as desired. Most modern DAW's can import about any file format and use it in their sessions.
That way when they import them there are no sync issues to deal with. You MUST know what bit depth and sample rate they are using on their session so you can match it before you record your overdubs. That way there are no conversion problems on their end when they go to import your tracks. If they have to do some conversions there can be problems with things lining up properly. Especially if your chosen sample rate was different than theirs. One important note is that you need your files to start at the very beginning of the track even if you only record in certain places in the song. They can remove any empty space on their end if they want.
I have done this many times with clients from all over the USA, Italy, Austria, Germany, Spain, Canada, Brazil, and Japan. It works just perfectly and doesn't require any special software or hardware.
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Post by digiboy on Sept 11, 2020 19:05:59 GMT -5
I'm looking for something more simplified and user friendly. Bandlab is the right idea but it is surprisingly prone to problems with latency even though it is 1 on 1 at a time. It's also not all that intuitive and could be easily improved. I know it's free so I can't really complain but I'd pay for a similar service that does a better job.
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