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Post by cedarchoper58 on Sept 29, 2020 15:40:57 GMT -5
My 57strat has the one ply pick guard with the sheilding just aroud the knob area and if my pick ttaps the pickups and guard in the unshieled are it make a noise. my 62 strat with the 3 ply fully shielded does not. is it because of one ply or sheilding my 57 does this? thks
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Sept 29, 2020 16:49:01 GMT -5
If you're hearing a click when your pick contacts the pickup cover, it's not a shielding issue. It means the coil is moving in relation to the magnets, generating a pulse in the coil. This is probably due to your pickups not being wax potted.
If your other guitar is quiet when you tap the pickup with the pick, then the pickups are probably potted.
Was potting 'fuses' the coil wires to the bobbin and prevents any movement of the wire in the coil.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Sept 30, 2020 18:09:59 GMT -5
If you're hearing a click when your pick contacts the pickup cover, it's not a shielding issue. It means the coil is moving in relation to the magnets, generating a pulse in the coil. This is probably due to your pickups not being wax potted. If your other guitar is quiet when you tap the pickup with the pick, then the pickups are probably potted. Was potting 'fuses' the coil wires to the bobbin and prevents any movement of the wire in the coil. is this common? Did they come from the factory making this noise? It only does it on the bridge pick up thanks
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Oct 3, 2020 19:56:07 GMT -5
If you're hearing a click when your pick contacts the pickup cover, it's not a shielding issue. It means the coil is moving in relation to the magnets, generating a pulse in the coil. This is probably due to your pickups not being wax potted. If your other guitar is quiet when you tap the pickup with the pick, then the pickups are probably potted. Was potting 'fuses' the coil wires to the bobbin and prevents any movement of the wire in the coil. is this common? Did they come from the factory making this noise? It only does it on the bridge pick up thanks
It isn't all that common on Fenders. Is it all stock? Regular Fender style pickups are wax potted as a standard, so it would be a bit weird if nothing has changed. Wax potting isn't the most consistent thing, but as far as I know all the major manufacturers are using a vacuum system at this point. A myriad of mods/changes/whatever could introduce this noise. Different pickup, adding a tele style base plate, different covers that don't fit right, whatever. The wax potting doesn't totally eliminate it and a healthy Strat will do this, but not to a point where anyone would ever notice or care.
It is possible that the shield plate with enough rattling (from a warped guard maybe?) could introduce noise, though I've never witnessed that myself.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 5, 2020 13:42:32 GMT -5
is this common? Did they come from the factory making this noise? It only does it on the bridge pick up thanks
It isn't all that common on Fenders. Is it all stock? Regular Fender style pickups are wax potted as a standard, so it would be a bit weird if nothing has changed. Wax potting isn't the most consistent thing, but as far as I know all the major manufacturers are using a vacuum system at this point. A myriad of mods/changes/whatever could introduce this noise. Different pickup, adding a tele style base plate, different covers that don't fit right, whatever. The wax potting doesn't totally eliminate it and a healthy Strat will do this, but not to a point where anyone would ever notice or care.
It is possible that the shield plate with enough rattling (from a warped guard maybe?) could introduce noise, though I've never witnessed that myself.
its all original untouched solder joints. I made a mistake earlier saying bridge pick up. It is neck pickup the loudest with the middle slightly and bridge quite
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Oct 7, 2020 9:37:07 GMT -5
Weird. It could be a need for wax potting, though as I mentioned that pickup was already potted once and needing an extra potting is rare. Is it a genuine nuisance for you, or just a curiosity? If it was in front of me and I was tasked with figuring it out, I'd pull the guard and look around for anything that didn't look right and try fixing it. A bunch of long shots, though. A stray piece of whatever stuck to the bottom of the pickup can make noises, but usually not those noises. The tubing being weird could do something (but not likely) and the cover not fitting well could do something (also not likely). You can look at the pickup itself and see if anything looks off about it. If it got a bum wax potting, there wouldn't necessarily be visible signs, but there could be. The guard being warped might lead to something else (pickup riding to the lowest part of the screw threads for example) but in and of itself it shouldn't do anything. Does the pickup work okay otherwise? Does it have a reasonable amount of volume? Does the volume turn off when you turn down the tone control? Every once in a while we'll get someone in our shop that has been playing a guitar with broken pickups, and the suckers held on just enough to make him think they were still functional pickups, just bad sounding ones. Again, these are all long shot ideas.
*edited to add that a single pickup managing to fall off a cart and skip the wax potting process at the factory as a complete fluke is not out of the question. I've definitely seen weirder things.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 7, 2020 15:59:00 GMT -5
It does not bother me. I did notice it is only the bridge pick up. The volume turns off. The single ply pick guard is warped or bulges up about 1/64" is this common for 50's single ply guards thsk
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Oct 7, 2020 18:54:25 GMT -5
The volume turns off... when you turn down the volume, or when you turn down the tone control? The tone control acting like another volume pot can be a sign of a bad pickup; it can be a sign of other things as well, of course.
Warping is very common on single ply guards. 1/64" is nothing. Sometimes it can warp so much that getting correct pickup heights is near impossible or it actually gets in the way of playing.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 10, 2020 14:43:03 GMT -5
The volume turns off... when you turn down the volume, or when you turn down the tone control? The tone control acting like another volume pot can be a sign of a bad pickup; it can be a sign of other things as well, of course. Warping is very common on single ply guards. 1/64" is nothing. Sometimes it can warp so much that getting correct pickup heights is near impossible or it actually gets in the way of playing. The tone control works normal and does not affect the volume. the Volume pot turns off the volume. The Volume pot is aa little scratchy but its original
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