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Post by Rick Knight on Oct 8, 2020 8:29:43 GMT -5
I am looking for 6 to 8 outputs for a guitar board. Voodoo, Gator, MXR, and One Spot are familiar names that provide a base line for my current thoughts on pricing. Is there a clear best among them? Are any of the lower priced brands with unfamiliar (to me) names worth considering?
Is switching the same supply between the guitar board and a small bass board realistic; or should I get another, smaller power supply? Mods, I don’t know where this belongs, so I put it here for visibility. Move as needed. |
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Oct 8, 2020 11:27:48 GMT -5
I've always used my Boss TU-2 with a daisy chain cord. Seemed to work fine for me -- although some pedals like my Dyna Comp always seem to work better with the 9v battery.
Then again, I've never played out so I could be totally FOS. I won't be offended if someone brings that to my attention.
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Post by justin on Oct 8, 2020 12:01:13 GMT -5
The last time I built a pedalboard was over 20 years ago. I used a daisy chain cable off of my TU-2 just like NSR mentioned. I think the Voodoo Labs power supply was out at that tiime and was incredibly expensive for what it was. I think it was $130 back then. Fast forward a couple of decades and things have changed. I've recently bought a couple of those micro pedals on Amazon. They're too small to fit a 9V inside, so you must use a power supply. I opened up my old pedalboard case in the garage only to discover that it was completely empty! I have no idea where my old TU-2 and cable went. I ended up buying a power supply from Amazon for $17.99. It works beautifully. smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B088R741JZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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Post by Taildragger on Oct 8, 2020 12:24:11 GMT -5
I use a Strymon "Ojai" which has 5 outputs (I play bass and am not a big pedal freak: pretty much just a compressor and pre-amp pedal...a couple other pedals come and go). Their "Zuma" has 9 outputs.
Strymon's words:
"The Strymon Zuma is the most technologically advanced pedal power supply on the market today. The Zuma’s dual-stage topology offers nine high-current, ultra low noise, individually isolated outputs - each with its own dedicated regulator and custom transformer. Designed to meet the needs of today’s digital effects, each output provides a staggering 500mA of current, allowing your pedals to achieve their highest possible dynamic range."
I've been real happy with my "Ojai" but their products may cost more than you want to spend: they are not among the cheapest.
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Post by larryguitar54 on Oct 8, 2020 18:10:54 GMT -5
When you get to the 6 to 8 pedals level you should be thinking of a custom build with a switcher/looper and something like the voodoo labs power supply with everything in parallel rather than daisy chain. It's better to have everything routed to a panel of buttons that control each individual pedal.
Less noise and chance you get to a gig and open the board and try to diagnose a failure to find that one errant pedal.
There are a couple companies. I had somebody else build the case to specs and then assembled with the Voodoo Labs Dingbat set up. It's not cheap however and it's a lot to carry around. But it's cool as all get out. Here is my 'big rig'.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Oct 8, 2020 20:06:52 GMT -5
If all your pedals take the same voltage, e.g., 9vDC, you can use a rechargeable unit so there are no additional wires necessary when playing out. I got this 12vDC rechargeable Talentcell brand power bank from Amazon for $30. It runs this FlyRig 5 for more than 40 hours on a single charge (the FlyRig requires 12v). All I need is a guitar cable into the pedalboard and a cable out to the amp. The board is a slab of 1/4" black Lexan with some cabinet handles to protect the plugs in the jacks from getting stomped on and broken. Some Velcro for the pedal and the power bank and a few stick-on rubber feet on the bottom and it's ready to rock. These power packs are available in a range of voltages and Amp-hour ratings.  |
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Post by reverendrob on Oct 9, 2020 13:07:48 GMT -5
I know there are some pedals which are bitchy.
Despite owning...many dozen, I don't own a single one that is.
Everything except the 18v oddball is on a one-spot, including the Boss ES-8.
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Post by Stinger22 on Oct 17, 2020 19:43:21 GMT -5
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Post by Sharkie on Oct 18, 2020 22:07:22 GMT -5
Another vote for the MXR ISO-Brick. It’s versatile, powerful and has been trouble free on my board for a number of years. |
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Post by Rick Knight on Oct 19, 2020 16:27:47 GMT -5
Stinger22 and Sharkie, Sweetwater says the M238 has 2 x 9V @ 100mA, 2 x 9V @ 300mA, 2 x 9V @ 450mA, 2 x 18V @ 250mA, 2 x Variable 6V to 15V @ 250mA. Dumb question, I'm sure, but how does one know which to use for which pedals? I've been looking for relevant info but either not finding it or not understanding what I'm seeing.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Oct 19, 2020 19:21:04 GMT -5
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Post by Sharkie on Oct 19, 2020 21:00:54 GMT -5
Stinger22 and Sharkie, Sweetwater says the M238 has 2 x 9V @ 100mA, 2 x 9V @ 300mA, 2 x 9V @ 450mA, 2 x 18V @ 250mA, 2 x Variable 6V to 15V @ 250mA. Dumb question, I'm sure, but how does one know which to use for which pedals? I've been looking for relevant info but either not finding it or not understanding what I'm seeing. Rick - I would check the manufacturers specs on the pedals you have and use the appropriate output on the ISO-Brick. Larry - prior to the ISO, I used the Dunlop Brick. It was a good little unit also. 👍 |
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Post by MoJoe on Oct 20, 2020 5:47:27 GMT -5
Powering up 13 pedals to check the iso-brick capacity for you, 3 on daisy chain from tuner, no problemo.
Overdrive, booster and compressor usually draw only little current, digital delay and other fancy modulation would need more.
If in doubt, specs can be found on the retailer sites.
Switching to a small bass board is fine. On mine, compressor 12v, pre-amp 15v and tuner hook up to the brick on the 4 to 5 pedals guitar rig without any issues.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 23, 2020 14:57:31 GMT -5
one spot works great and is small but can be noisy
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Post by Stinger22 on Oct 24, 2020 21:42:43 GMT -5
Stinger22 and Sharkie, Sweetwater says the M238 has 2 x 9V @ 100mA, 2 x 9V @ 300mA, 2 x 9V @ 450mA, 2 x 18V @ 250mA, 2 x Variable 6V to 15V @ 250mA. Dumb question, I'm sure, but how does one know which to use for which pedals? I've been looking for relevant info but either not finding it or not understanding what I'm seeing. Just look at the pedal and it should tell you or the spec sheet, online if you don't really have it. Match the Voltage and then make sure there are MORE amps than the pedal requires, if you daisy chain any add up the amp requirements and make sure you have more. I never had to daisy chain with ISO brick, plenty of options. Now some people like the run pedals a little low on the voltage, the belief it mimics and older battery and that makes it better. To each his own, low voltage can be bad, I always match it and run at the highest the pedal can run, some run both 9 volt and 18 volt. |
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Post by Rick Knight on Oct 25, 2020 7:37:06 GMT -5
Stinger 22, thanks. Some of my pedals were purchased used and don't have paperwork; and what came with the new one I bought recently wasn't very informative. I eventually found more info about it on line, which led to the realization that searching by pedal name and current draw works better than by pedal name and mA. I even found a couple of websites that compile such information. It appears that nothing I want to use requires more than 100mA, and your reply confirms that more than a pedal requires doesn't create a mismatch issue.
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Post by rdr on Oct 28, 2020 18:16:02 GMT -5
I see Joyo makes a rechargeable 8 output power supply. Looks pretty good. $69 with cables. From Amazon:
JOYO JP-05 Power Supply, Multi-channel Mobile Guitar Pedal Power Supply, with 8 DC Outputs 9V/12V/18V & 1 USB Port
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Post by Taildragger on Sept 21, 2021 13:31:05 GMT -5
Strymon now makes at least one brick that has an 18-volt slot in addition to the 9s.
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Post by LeftyMeister on Sept 21, 2021 14:55:54 GMT -5
I haven't read every post but I used an MKS Pedal Pad for several years but it was noisy. I later discovered the outputs were not isolated. I switched to the One-Spot CS7 with true isolated outputs and I've been happy with it. There's also a CS12.
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Post by Taildragger on Sept 21, 2021 16:45:38 GMT -5
The Strymon outputs are isolated as well.
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