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Post by Dr Bass MD on Jan 16, 2020 14:11:20 GMT -5
I’ve been playing since age 13 or so. Mostly on an old ‘60s Premier kit. Still have it. But lately, due to noise concerns of our pups, I’ve gone the tour of V-drums - an entry level Roland TD1-DMK setup. ‘Entry level’ kits have come a long, long way. They’re using sampled bits now for the sound, and have pretty much eliminated the fake sounds of electronic drums of years gone by. What are y’all rockin these days? Attachments:
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Jan 16, 2020 17:38:38 GMT -5
Very nice set-up my friend. I started playing drums around the age of 15, started out with a really old kit from the late forties (I can't even remember the brand). Naturally, I had to refinish them with a more "Modern" look. (what did you expect from someone that age) Most of my experience is with acoustic drums; I've evolved thru Ludwig, Rogers, Tama. Why you ask? Because that was the time before "Electronic Drums" ( I know, I'm giving my age away). However I have had the opportunity to use Electronic Drums and percussion effects, in a variety of settings and I learned a few lessons.
I noticed the headphones on the drum throne; E/Drums are great for practice and private use. Unlimited possibilities there. If you move to a stage or studio setting, with them, and other musicians, you will encounter some problems. If you do a stage setting, I advise a small, dedicated, independent sound system (with a monitor for you)for your E/set-up. You may want to confer with the sound man to make sure all your electronic systems are compatible.
All the different types of sticks/mallets/brushes available for acoustic drums are useless. All you need are standard sticks with wooden tips (your choice of size). The effect is created with the kits mixer, and the only limit there is your own imagination.
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Post by Dr Bass MD on Jan 16, 2020 17:39:29 GMT -5
So how the HELL do we add pics that don’t get turned 90 degs??
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Post by leibniz on Jan 18, 2020 23:31:24 GMT -5
I've never been a drummer but I've really been thinking about getting an Alesis Command Mesh set to play around with.
Edit: Now looking closer at the Roland td-17.
Edit 2: Got a td-17 kvx last week and I'm glad I did. I'm not sure if I'll chalk it up to my first G.A.S. purchase on Moe's or not.
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Post by rickyguitar on Jan 19, 2020 0:42:00 GMT -5
I played in a tourist trap band, 6 hours with no breaks, and was pressed into being the relief drummer when our lady drummer had to answer nature's call. Seriously mind expanding when the leader would call for songs i sang. I would not mind a drum set as much as my wife might. Kind fun.
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Post by Laker on Jan 20, 2020 14:55:29 GMT -5
I'm a bass player, but over the years I would sit in on drums with my friend's groups so I thought I'd pick up a kit to see if I could still play after being away from them for 20+ years. This is a DW Collector series in Broken Glass. Attachments:
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Mar 9, 2020 11:32:48 GMT -5
Just played in the "March on DC" Jam and had a fantastic time. Rotated in & out with three different drummers, doing drum-set and percussion; song list was 44 songs and covered a large range of styles and types of music. Obviously no rehearsal, so everything is free style and improvised following a basic chart. Great experience for younger and older musicians looking for a change of pace. I highly recommend playing in an organized "Jam Session" if you get the chance, no matter what instrument you play.
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Mar 23, 2020 22:14:53 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity; What do guitar and bass players look for and expect from drummers & percussionists? (Obviously you can figure out what I play!) The reason I ask; is that I often get compliments on my playing, and I'm not sure why. Style, overall sound, dynamics, precision, or interaction with the rest of the band? I am constantly trying to "free style and improvise" in any number of songs to improve on them. Any thoughts on the subject.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Mar 26, 2020 19:20:56 GMT -5
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Post by rickyguitar on Mar 30, 2020 1:02:41 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity; What do guitar and bass players look for and expect from drummers & percussionists? (Obviously you can figure out what I play!) The reason I ask; is that I often get compliments on my playing, and I'm not sure why. Style, overall sound, dynamics, precision, or interaction with the rest of the band? I am constantly trying to "free style and improvise" in any number of songs to improve on them. Any thoughts on the subject. Well, ability to keep good time first and foremost. I like a drummer who has strong rudiments in his/her tool kit and who has the restraint to fit into the arrangement without feeling the need to put every lick and fill into every song. A few years back I was fortunate enough to see/hear a 13 year old drummer accompany his mom in a church setting. He was skilled, restrained and spot on. Oh, and when he needed to step up he was fully capable. Volume control also essential Jeeez I don't want much do i? |
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on May 15, 2020 23:03:53 GMT -5
My friends, I have finally stepped into the electronic drum world. I recently purchased a Roland TD-27 set-up, and dumped my Remo practice pad(s). What a difference! I did a lot of research from the playing point of view VS the electronic aspect. Here are some things I looked for.
I am able to use my pedals & Hi-Hat set-up from my acoustic drum set. Like I said, I'm using the Roland set-up primarily for "practice"; I wanted to be be able to get the same playing feel using either the electronic or acoustic set. I also made sure the bass drum trigger was wide enough to handle a double bass pedal set up. The Hi-Hat trigger, snare drum trigger, and ride cymbal trigger are Roland's new upgraded technology, and actually feel like an acoustic drum set. The upgraded snare drum features the ability to utilize brushes and "rim" clicks, without touching the mixer/module; the older and other models I researched did not have that feature.
Needless to say, it will probably take me a few years to fully explore the module/mixer. I keep the "Manuals" within easy reach when playing. I definitely need to think about an electronics school of some sort, just to be able to "interpret" the manuals.
I did get both the headphones and a drum monitor for the set-up. (Did I mention my fear of wires. It's a drummer thing.) I use the headphones when doing my reading workout and the monitor when playing along with a song. So far so good!
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Post by mountie on May 19, 2020 10:50:32 GMT -5
I picked up an Alesis DM6 set last week for $100. I know it's corny and sounds fake, but it will allow me to learn some basics by playing along with recorded music.
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Post by Dr Bass MD on Jun 2, 2020 7:48:17 GMT -5
My friends, I have finally stepped into the electronic drum world. I recently purchased a Roland TD-27 set-up, and dumped my Remo practice pad(s). What a difference! I did a lot of research from the playing point of view VS the electronic aspect. Here are some things I looked for. I am able to use my pedals & Hi-Hat set-up from my acoustic drum set. Like I said, I'm using the Roland set-up primarily for "practice"; I wanted to be be able to get the same playing feel using either the electronic or acoustic set. I also made sure the bass drum trigger was wide enough to handle a double bass pedal set up. The Hi-Hat trigger, snare drum trigger, and ride cymbal trigger are Roland's new upgraded technology, and actually feel like an acoustic drum set. The upgraded snare drum features the ability to utilize brushes and "rim" clicks, without touching the mixer/module; the older and other models I researched did not have that feature. Needless to say, it will probably take me a few years to fully explore the module/mixer. I keep the "Manuals" within easy reach when playing. I definitely need to think about an electronics school of some sort, just to be able to "interpret" the manuals. I did get both the headphones and a drum monitor for the set-up. (Did I mention my fear of wires. It's a drummer thing.) I use the headphones when doing my reading workout and the monitor when playing along with a song. So far so good! What I like about the new Rolands is they’re sampling real drums’ recorded sounds. The sound is amazingly good. IMHO |
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Jun 2, 2020 23:28:17 GMT -5
I am, ever so slowly, learning the capabilities of my Roland set-up. So far; I have a very wide range of drum set sound capabilities. The sounds range from natural wood shells, metal shells, acrylic shells, etc. If you are looking for a rock, jazz, funk, heavy metal sound; it is already programmed into the module. You can set the volume of each individual trigger/pad in the module/mixer. If you like more definition with the hi-hat and snare drum, you simply program it in. There are two "crash" cymbal triggers; again, with the volume and other settings, you determine the presence you want (as in ring and sustain).
The one thing I have not gotten to yet is programming specific sounds in: such as "hand claps", "cow bell", "gong", or broken glass. ( as in the Billy Joel song) With my style of playing, I might reserve those sounds for a separate sampler pad; down the road,(a long while) to use with my acoustic set. But, so far so good.
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 20, 2020 18:12:58 GMT -5
I guess I qualify, but I'm not that great.
I do however have a yearly gig! I play an annual party in October. It's a couple sets of classic rock covers. It's a blast!
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 20, 2020 18:20:34 GMT -5
This is what I'm currently working on, kind of a hybrid Bernard Purdie shuffle thing.
Here's Jeff Porcaro giving a quick lesson on how to do it.
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