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Post by Mike the marksman on Jan 4, 2021 12:05:06 GMT -5
I've been gassing for a new Gibson SG special faded in pelham blue. I thought "Finally! They make a regular-production SG special with a wraparound bridge and small pickguard, and they even make it in Pelham blue!" I was all ready to pack up my SG '61 reissue for trade-in until I read "Neck profile: 60s slim taper" Ugh. I was all excited, and then it was completely ruined. They put the same neck on this guitar that is the reason I want to get rid of my current SG. I don't know of a single person who buys an SG as a shredder guitar, they buy them as straight-ahead rock/blues rock machines, so why do they insist on putting that uncomfortable slim, "fast" neck on all their non-CS SGs? It seems completely asinine to me. This is the 4th or 5th new Gibson that's piqued my interest and then been totally ruined by some annoying built-in flaw:( Sorry, rant over  |
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jan 4, 2021 12:23:41 GMT -5
The SG was released in '61, and part of that guitar's thing was the slim neck. Also: not offering it in a fat neck version is one of the ways Gibson is saving itself from bankruptcy. Over the past 10 years or so, they wandered far afield, offering every desired option (and many not so desired) in factory production runs that dealers were left with guitars they were forced to buy but couldn't sell.
If you want Pelham Blue with a fat neck, find yourself a 2nd-hand Faded series SG from the mid-2000s; many of these have fat necks that are really close to their 50's carve. And they're relatively inexpensive. Peel off the hardware and shoot it with Pelham Blue lacquer.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Jan 4, 2021 12:28:12 GMT -5
The mid-2000s faded specials didn't have P90s though, or a wraptail- I bought one then when MF was blowing them out. It was basically a stripped-down SG standard, though they certainly had thick necks. I just wish the current speical was available with the same neck as the custom shop version- a medium C profile. Seems like most vintage SG specials have thicker necks, the Pete Townshend model they did 15-20 years ago had a really meaty neck.
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Post by Leftee on Jan 4, 2021 12:47:41 GMT -5
I’ve got a 2012-ish 50s’ trib SG. It has a beefy neck. A 50s’ SG is a tribute to a guitar that never existed, so they stamped “prototype” on the back of the headstock.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Jan 4, 2021 21:05:53 GMT -5
Some Epiphones have nice chunkier necks.  I'm always willing to trash Gibson when it is deserved, but I don't think it is fully deserved here. Consumers (helped along by marketing and the media) can become obsessed with the idea that thinner necks make us over night virtuosos. In my opinion and experience, going thin doesn't speed things up though it might be more comfortable for some, and it is a prerequisite for technique and body issues down the road. My 335 is a '60s thin neck, but one of the chunkier ones and I do okay with it. I'd prefer a larger one. But, we're in a minority. Most players get scared off by a neck that is even average size (unless you don't TELL them it is a bigger neck and let them just play it, Fender has been sneaking in chubby necks with their new 60s profiles) and the chunkier neck guitars don't move as fast, unless they are specifically marketed towards people who want it period accurate. What would need to happen is some manufacturer(s) need(s) to sell a chunkier neck and stand behind it as a sales feature and explain why it is a good thing. If that happened, we'd see the whole market change almost instantaneously. |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jan 5, 2021 7:45:45 GMT -5
The 60's slim taper profile has pulled a number of Gibsons off of my list.
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Post by Rick Knight on Jan 5, 2021 8:15:18 GMT -5
A 50s’ SG is a tribute to a guitar that never existed To each, his own; but I never understood 1950s neck profiles on SGs. The 1960s SGs I owned in the past had slim necks and that, to me, is what an SG is supposed to be. |
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Post by Leftee on Jan 5, 2021 10:11:21 GMT -5
A 50s’ SG is a tribute to a guitar that never existed To each, his own; but I never understood 1950s neck profiles on SGs. The 1960s SGs I owned in the past had slim necks and that, to me, is what an SG is supposed to be. I like big necks, and I cannot lie. 😂 |
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Post by Mikeyguitar on Jan 5, 2021 19:00:18 GMT -5
A 50s’ SG is a tribute to a guitar that never existed To each, his own; but I never understood 1950s neck profiles on SGs. The 1960s SGs I owned in the past had slim necks and that, to me, is what an SG is supposed to be.
Haha! IMO, EVERY guitar should have that beautiful, comfortable, slim 60s neck. The baseball bat thing never appealed to me. But to each his own.  Seriously, though...I don't know how many times I'd be shopping for a guitar and wish it had a different fret board radius, or a different neck profile. We guitar players are a particular bunch, I guess.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Jan 5, 2021 20:40:50 GMT -5
Haha! IMO, EVERY guitar should have that beautiful, comfortable, slim 60s neck. To be fair, as far as skinnier necks go, it is one of the better ones. |
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Post by jazzguy on Jan 5, 2021 22:32:36 GMT -5
I have big hands but have gotten used to the slim taper on some of my 60s Gibsons.
As long as it has the 1 11/16 nut width I'm ok.
But ideally that classic not too big not too small '59 profile is my fave.
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Post by Leftee on Jan 6, 2021 12:01:28 GMT -5
Haha! IMO, EVERY guitar should have that beautiful, comfortable, slim 60s neck. To be fair, as far as skinnier necks go, it is one of the better ones. Agreed. It's not Import-cheap-guitar skinny. I'm not agin 'em. I just like the 50's profile more better. |
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Post by Pinetree on Jan 6, 2021 17:28:47 GMT -5
Huge fan of the slim taper neck.
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Post by Ayns on Jan 6, 2021 17:35:33 GMT -5
I also prefer the 60's neck profile.
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Post by Seldom Seen on Jan 6, 2021 19:03:26 GMT -5
My '61 Reissue SG plays great but I've always preferred the slimmer necks which is why my R0 LP is the only one that has stuck with me and there have been several LPs come and go.
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