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Post by Ayns on Feb 15, 2021 8:56:02 GMT -5
Wow, that does sound impressive. I presume each would have their own (foot) controller? The guy I know with the Axe FX has recently upgraded (downgraded?) to a Helix
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Post by squarewave on Feb 15, 2021 10:09:43 GMT -5
Wow, that does sound impressive. I presume each would have their own (foot) controller? The guy I know with the Axe FX has recently upgraded (downgraded?) to a Helix As of now, there isn't a controller option. In the example of a band running on one unit, one person would control it. However, since it is MIDI capable, a DAW could control any changes using MIDI commands.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 16:43:02 GMT -5
Pedals...and simple ones at that. Pedals are like amps, they have a certain voice/sound and should only do a few things well. Individual pedals help you realize if you're going for too much and also allow for an easy swap out. The idea is playing guitar, not learning a system or a complicated pedal. Sometimes playing within known confines sparks more creativity than stopping and tweaking a patch.
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Post by squarewave on Feb 15, 2021 17:07:23 GMT -5
Pedals...and simple ones at that. Pedals are like amps, they have a certain voice/sound and should only do a few things well. Individual pedals help you realize if you're going for too much and also allow for an easy swap out. The idea is playing guitar, not learning a system or a complicated pedal. Sometimes playing within known confines sparks more creativity than stopping and tweaking a patch. That's your opinion, and that's fine, but just because one chooses to use a system of effects, amps, etc does not mean they are not playing guitar. Pedals into amps are great; pedals into amps into load boxes are great; pedals into amp modelers are great, all-in-one units can be great too. To each their own.
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Feb 15, 2021 19:16:10 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't turn into a big argument, my goal was just to hear different opinions and get to know others better. I still consider myself "old school" but the more I mess around with my HX FX, the more capabilities I find inside. And it's actually pretty easy to come up with new "pedalboards" for different band situations. I've found very little that it can't do; it has most of the famous pedals intact already, or a reasonable facsimile, and they're still adding new ones via updates. And now I'm beginning to use the stereo outs.
I have about 5 or 6 'pedalboards' made up in the HX FX, that I use in different situations. Two or three for church, and a few for the bands that I'm in. I will say this, I couldn't do that with my old SKB pedalboard, even though it supported about 9 different pedals, all at one time. Each "pedalboard" in the HX FX can support that many effects. Just sayin'!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 21:57:07 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry...I was just stating my opinion. It's what works for me as I've had modelers, rack systems, a few guitar synths and multi-effects. All are fun and doesn't make anyone more/less of a guitar player.
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Post by squarewave on Feb 15, 2021 22:08:29 GMT -5
I, too, have used the gamut of guitar gear, and I used to be a pedals into amp (ok, three amps) guy; I still love the feel of speakers pushing air. But, I've found that since switching to the Fractal AX3, I've had so much fun trying out new, and interesting, signal paths (the possibilities seem endless on that thing), that it has led to coming up with interesting parts that I would have never thought of given what I was used to, which was a pedal rig into a Kemper Profiler. Granted, the learning curve of the Fractal user interface is kind of steep, and it does take patience, but once one is comfortable navigating it, the fun really begins!
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Feb 16, 2021 8:36:45 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry...I was just stating my opinion. It's what works for me as I've had modelers, rack systems, a few guitar synths and multi-effects. All are fun and doesn't make anyone more/less of a guitar player. No apologies necessary. We're all just stating our opinions. There is so much new gear out there, so much that I haven't tried yet. I can agree with the anti-tweakers because I've been there, done that also. My current situation with the HX FX is, I feel it's good enough that it's time to start selling my old pedals. I honestly don't see myself ever going back to them now. We do one song where I feel like I'm tap dancing, having to turn things on and off. But, I'd be doing that if I had pedals, also, and the switches are now closer together....almost too close. That's the price you pay for having a smaller unit I guess. I have to teach my foot to be more accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 18:23:34 GMT -5
I think it's a constant search, probably inevitable that I switch paths a few more times The mix is a nice idea. I think my issue I think visually, so am more used to seeing the pedals and what I need to add/subtract. Plus, if I don't have them, I'll have to look at the audience lol
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Feb 16, 2021 19:38:56 GMT -5
I think it's a constant search, probably inevitable that I switch paths a few more times The mix is a nice idea. I think my issue I think visually, so am more used to seeing the pedals and what I need to add/subtract. Plus, if I don't have them, I'll have to look at the audience lol I agree. I prefer twisting knobs, that's why I used a Boss ME-70 MFX for so many years. It was closer to tweaking pedals, having knobs to turn. But only 3 effects simultaneously, I ended up needing better reverbs and delays for church, more versatility for the bands I'm in....and partly because I just wanted to try something different. For now, the HX FX is filling my needs. Next year, who knows?!
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Post by ninworks on Feb 17, 2021 7:21:26 GMT -5
I haven't used pedals in decades. After my last pedalboard in about 1990 I went to a rack system with a number of multi-effects units and some studio outboard gear like reverbs, delays, choruses, compressors, EQ's, etc. After that it was a Digitech GNX-2, then a GNX-3. Now I have an Avid Eleven Rack that will do anything I need in the way of guitar processing. It's not the latest and most awesomest guitar unit out there but it does all I need it to do. I don't gig anymore and all I do is record so having footswitches isn't necessary for me.
I still have a few pedals that I plug in occasionally but not very often. About the only one I use regularly is a Freakin Sick boutique overdrive when I decide to record my TRRI with a microphone or two. When I record the Vox AC15H1TV it doesn't need any pedals to get nasty. Anything else can be added with plugins. I do still have a volume pedal between the guitars and Eleven Rack. I use it quite a bit for volume swells and such. I don't really think of it as a pedal but technically it is.
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Post by larryguitar54 on Feb 17, 2021 18:21:32 GMT -5
When I watched the video demos of the multiboards I hear a lot stuff that I just don't play.
Don't get me wrong. I love pedals and getting all kind of other worldly effects. But if I started going off like that the lead singer would politely let me know they are going in a different direction.
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Post by jazzmastertele2020 on Mar 7, 2021 15:22:54 GMT -5
I find the Boss ME-80 is versatile and a lot of fun in front of my tube combo for practicing at home. There’s enough to play with to help offset the relative boredom of jamming alone vs. playing with my band. It’s also a way to dabble in some sounds without investing in a nice standalone pedal version. All in a compact, easily accessible interface.
It’d never replace my pedalboards for just about any gigging and recording but it’s a great tool for working out ideas and playing along to records at home.
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Mar 8, 2021 22:19:14 GMT -5
I find the Boss ME-80 is versatile and a lot of fun in front of my tube combo for practicing at home. There’s enough to play with to help offset the relative boredom of jamming alone vs. playing with my band. It’s also a way to dabble in some sounds without investing in a nice standalone pedal version. All in a compact, easily accessible interface. It’d never replace my pedalboards for just about any gigging and recording but it’s a great tool for working out ideas and playing along to records at home. Another guitar player at church just switched from the ME-70 to the ME-80. I have to admit, I don't recall exactly what the differences are between the two, but I really liked my ME-70...for many years! Simple to operate and adjust settings.
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