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12 Fret
Feb 16, 2021 1:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 16, 2021 1:02:30 GMT -5
Ever play a 12 fret acoustic. I kept hearing about them so I did some checking. The bridge is closer to the lower bout which deepens the voice. Less string tension makes fretting easier. Now i wanna try one.
Anybody play one?
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Feb 16, 2021 3:50:10 GMT -5
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Post by LTB on Feb 16, 2021 3:50:10 GMT -5
Ever play a 12 fret acoustic. I kept hearing about them so I did some checking. The bridge is closer to the lower bout which deepens the voice. Less string tension makes fretting easier. Now i wanna try one. Anybody play one? No but that sounds interesting. Didn’t know there was such a thing |
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Feb 16, 2021 20:47:24 GMT -5
Post by jeffscott on Feb 16, 2021 20:47:24 GMT -5
I have two 12-fret guitars.
Taylor NS-62ce (Engelmann spruce, quilt maple)
Yamamoto Talus VS-12 (paulownia, cocobolo)
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Feb 17, 2021 4:50:33 GMT -5
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 17, 2021 4:50:33 GMT -5
I have two 12-fret guitars. Taylor NS-62ce (Engelmann spruce, quilt maple) Yamamoto Talus VS-12 (paulownia, cocobolo) So. Jeff what can you tell us about them. How do you like them? |
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Feb 17, 2021 6:43:38 GMT -5
Post by sirWheat on Feb 17, 2021 6:43:38 GMT -5
I don't see how string tension comes into play unless all of them have shorter scale lengths.
The only 12-fretter I have is my Dobro and have played a few others. I find them very comfortable to play, the neck is shifted closer to the body so everything is easier to reach. I won't make any claims about tone.
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Feb 17, 2021 8:51:21 GMT -5
Post by Ragtop on Feb 17, 2021 8:51:21 GMT -5
I have an Eastman E20P. It's a rosewood parlor with a big fat 12-fret neck. I use LaBella Silk & Steel Lights on it, which make it punchy and loud with great sustain. Great fun to play.
I've also had an Eastman E10P, a Santa Cruz 00-1929, and a Martin D-18VS. All were great playing and sounding guitars.
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Feb 17, 2021 13:35:22 GMT -5
Post by Lefty Rev on Feb 17, 2021 13:35:22 GMT -5
I don't see how string tension comes into play unless all of them have shorter scale lengths. Correct: people often confuse 12/14 frets to the body with different scale length, but they're two separate things. Actually, some of Martin's 12 fret guitars are LONG scale, while their 14 frets versions of the same (e.g., 00/000) are SHORT scale. So there you go. But you ARE correct about the 12 fret body design tending (usually) to move the bridge further south into the lower bout. When this is the case, it makes for more bass response from the guitar, all other things being equal. |
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Feb 18, 2021 12:49:29 GMT -5
Post by hushnel on Feb 18, 2021 12:49:29 GMT -5
My classical guitars and the Martin 000-15S are 12 fret.
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Feb 19, 2021 19:15:10 GMT -5
Post by jeffscott on Feb 19, 2021 19:15:10 GMT -5
I have two 12-fret guitars. Taylor NS-62ce (Engelmann spruce, quilt maple) Yamamoto Talus VS-12 (paulownia, cocobolo) So. Jeff what can you tell us about them. How do you like them? The NS-62ce is a nylon crossover type of guitar. I got it for its sonic qualities to complement the steel-string guitars I have. The neck is more comfy (to me) than a "standard" classical guitar as it has a slightly narrower nut width and thinner neck that a classical guitar. Can't really compare it to my steel-string guitars really, it is what it is, a very nice factory Taylor. I have never bonded with an steel-string Taylors, tonally, so this guitar is it for me as to owning a Taylor. I am glad I have this model as the newer, current nylons that Taylor make don't have an of the classic classical guitar type of features, they are simply their steel-string guitars with a different bridge and bracing pattern (pretty bland looking, to me). The Yamamoto is the best acoustic guitar I have ever owned or played, IME. This has a 24.9" scale length (there is also the Talus VS-14 with a longer scale length and 14th fret neck join). For an OMish body size, this guitar has wonderful tone, sparking highs, and a nice bottom end depth. The asymmetrical neck profile fits my hand perfectly, the way the neck meets the body is sort of a cross between a 14 fret and a 12 fret guitar (the low E side is at the 12th fret, the high E cutaway side is at the 14th fret. |
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Feb 21, 2021 12:43:44 GMT -5
Post by funkykikuchiyo on Feb 21, 2021 12:43:44 GMT -5
On most 14 fret designs, the bridge is at the center point between the upper transverse brace and the tailblock. On a classical, it is halfway between the lower transverse and the tailblock. Take that for what you will. Some would argue it makes them more efficient noise machines, akin to a drum being hit in the center instead of the edge. Usually when people follow these trains of thoughts in guitar design they get some great ideas, but it doesn't always end up with as great of a result as one would think. Grains of salt and all that.
The tone is generally a bit less snappy on a 12-fret, which might lead some people to intuit that the tension is lower, though that isn't the case.
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Post by Harleyboy on Feb 21, 2021 22:16:21 GMT -5
I have 2 Taylor 12 frets. 512-E all mahogany and a 612-ce Maple back and sides, spruce top. One of them is my favorite guitar of all time. I just don't know which one.
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