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Post by Ricketi on Mar 4, 2021 23:43:43 GMT -5
My daughter's friend is dropping off one by me tomorrow morning to try out and give me first dibs on buying it. I think its a 2011. I don't much else about it. She won it in a Raffle last year and she is not a guitar player. I told her if she wanted to sell it, to give me the first shot at it. I'm trying to get an idea of what I should offer for it if I should like it after trying it out.
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Post by Ayns on Mar 5, 2021 5:54:20 GMT -5
Nice guitar. I can't be sure of the exact model from the pic, but if it's a US model, (or Vintera maybe), I'd say rrp is probably $1,000 + Edit - if it is 2011 it won't be Vintera, and if US I think will possibly be more than $1,000 but I'm no expert
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Post by Ricketi on Mar 5, 2021 8:25:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the response Ayns, I did a little Net search of what little I know of it, you are not far off. I will know more today when I have it in hand.
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Post by j0nasty🎸 on Mar 5, 2021 9:43:38 GMT -5
I have the single coil model. I put Twang Kings in mine, and, I love it. Mine is really light which is good as my 2 other Tele's are boat anchors. I think you will like it... if you like humbuckers I guess.
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Post by Buster on Mar 5, 2021 13:19:46 GMT -5
Years ago, I had two of the originals. Absolutely loved them and sorry I let them go. Is this a MIM variant?
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Post by BigBadJohn on Mar 5, 2021 14:04:45 GMT -5
Had a MIM version a while back. It was ok but I never really bonded with it so I sold it.
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Post by Ricketi on Mar 5, 2021 17:34:52 GMT -5
Years ago, I had two of the originals. Absolutely loved them and sorry I let them go. Is this a MIM variant? According to the serial # it is made in the US.
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Post by professor on Mar 5, 2021 17:48:01 GMT -5
That's a really REALLY nice guitar!
I have a MIJ '72 Thinline version from the 90s. It is a good guitar, light weight, but my problem has always been with the vintage frets and radius. I had it out recently and liked it more than I recalled, but those tiny frets and 7.25 radius take a lot of getting used to.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 6, 2021 9:14:27 GMT -5
I prefer the humbucker models, the single coil ones tend to look better than they sound. I don't doubt that getting hotter, better pickups in them likely helps a lot, adds a little more "hair" to the sound. They make great soul/funk/R&B guitars.
If you really want to go down a rabbit hole, the Lollar version of the old Fender Seth Love pickups gets great reviews.
Your daughter's friend will likely be very happy if you offer a decent price for it. In my experience, non guitar players hate selling guitars. There is way too much to deal with for a first time seller (IDing and valuing the instrument, fielding questions, shipping, etc.) and many just offload them to music stores knowing they're taking a hit. We semi-regularly get people in our shop wanting our help because they're stuck with a guitar they don't know how to sell - unfortunately we're a repair shop and I just can't be spending the time valuing and writing up descriptions for sale for everyone, so we usually just give it a once over and advise they do some googling. *shrug*
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Post by Ricketi on Mar 6, 2021 10:32:21 GMT -5
funkykikuchiyo, I asked her what she wanted for it and she said "I’ve been looking around a bit. Seems like most are asking around $1000". I've been playing it and it's pretty decent but I don't think it has the wow factor that would make me want to spend 800 to 1000$ for it. I also don't want to take advantage of her either.
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Post by zenland on Mar 6, 2021 13:31:20 GMT -5
I think offering what you *think* is a decent price is the best thing to do if you want it.
She could try ebay or Reverb if she doesn't like what's being offered.
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Post by mcrofutt on Mar 7, 2021 14:21:39 GMT -5
I had a MIM one a few years back.Beautiful instrument (it was blue) played great was comfortable and light. Pickups did not work out for me, couldn't find a usable tone no matter what I tried.
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Post by Leftee on Mar 7, 2021 14:26:05 GMT -5
I prefer the humbucker models, the single coil ones tend to look better than they sound. I don't doubt that getting hotter, better pickups in them likely helps a lot, adds a little more "hair" to the sound. They make great soul/funk/R&B guitars. If you really want to go down a rabbit hole, the Lollar version of the old Fender Seth Love pickups gets great reviews. Your daughter's friend will likely be very happy if you offer a decent price for it. In my experience, non guitar players hate selling guitars. There is way too much to deal with for a first time seller (IDing and valuing the instrument, fielding questions, shipping, etc.) and many just offload them to music stores knowing they're taking a hit. We semi-regularly get people in our shop wanting our help because they're stuck with a guitar they don't know how to sell - unfortunately we're a repair shop and I just can't be spending the time valuing and writing up descriptions for sale for everyone, so we usually just give it a once over and advise they do some googling. *shrug* I’ve got a build formula for single coil Thinlines. I really like the Fender Pure Vintage ‘52 pickups in them. That wind and the A3 magnets really work great with the body style. So... a bit of mixing of the eras.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 7, 2021 15:11:28 GMT -5
Leftee - I don't know those pickups as well, but I am sure the CS Nocaster pickups would be great as well - in either case, it seems we're of the same mind that they're good guitars, they just need something to give it a bit of personality. I've found that happens a lot with chambering - all the right elements for a great guitar but can be a bit "meh" - spike it up with hotter than usual pickups and then you're doing really well!
Are the wide range pickups in the US version anything close to authentic? I know on the MIM version it was just a generic humbucker with a wide range style cover.
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Post by Leftee on Mar 7, 2021 15:14:02 GMT -5
Yeah, you can’t do “typical” or “period correct” single coils in them, IMO.
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Post by jhawkr on Mar 8, 2021 17:54:12 GMT -5
I have a rule of not paying more than 60% of new retail price for a preowned instrument.
I have a Thinline Cabronita that I like very much. I appreciate the light weight.
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Post by Ricketi on Mar 8, 2021 21:31:52 GMT -5
So I got it for 700$, She was happy to get rid of it. It is actually a 2012 American Vintage series. I have been playing it a lot and I like the way it plays. It sounds really good on the Orange Tiny Terror.
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Post by Riff Twang on Mar 8, 2021 22:25:37 GMT -5
Good to hear it worked out well for everyone involved. It's a good looking guitar.
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Post by Ayns on Mar 9, 2021 5:13:25 GMT -5
That sounds like a good deal for both involved. Hope you enjoy it.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 9, 2021 8:51:18 GMT -5
Back in the 80's I snagged an early/mid 70's natural Deluxe Thinline at a Detroit guitar show. In recent years my bro in law provided me a video of a gig I did with that guitar and dang, I wish I still had it.
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Post by Ragpicker on Mar 10, 2021 0:12:05 GMT -5
Ive got a MIM 69 style with single coils. I put Bill Lawrence noiseless pickups in. Sounds great. One of my favorite guitars. Light as a feather.
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Post by Seldom Seen on Mar 10, 2021 16:56:34 GMT -5
I’ve owned both the MIM natural with buckers and the mahogany with single coils. I loved the light weight but I sold the natural and converted the mahogany to a Blues Boy. I ended up switching the neck out for one of favorite MIM Strat necks. I play it quite often.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 11, 2021 9:36:06 GMT -5
You know, I haven't had a strong desire to pick up another guitar in years, but all of the talk about the slight modifications to the Thinlines is sure giving me an itch!
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Post by Leftee on Mar 11, 2021 9:54:08 GMT -5
I’ve got a thin line nearing the finishing line now.
I need to build a wide range pickup thin line sometime. 🤔
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Post by jhawkr on Mar 11, 2021 11:41:31 GMT -5
$700 is a decent price. You did ok.
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Post by rdr on Mar 12, 2021 12:59:13 GMT -5
Just bought a Cabronita thinline with a Bigsby. It only has a volume control. I thought I'd like to add a concentric volume/tone pot. But it looks like it would be easier to just drill another hole and install a tone pot.
It has the Fender "Fidelitron" pickups. Hopefully they will sound ok.
I believe the volume pot for these is 250K. If the pickups are not very bright, would it be better to install a 500k pot?
Actually, I just watched a couple of videos about it. It seems pretty jangly. Still might want to install a tone pot. Or maybe a push-pull volume pot with a fixed cap.
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Post by jhawkr on Mar 12, 2021 20:44:02 GMT -5
I think Peegoo has done the concentric pot thing. I like the stock pickups and never felt the need for a tone pot. I did replace the bridge with a USA version as I didn’t like the spacing on the MIM Cabronita. The holes were slightly misaligned but I made it work. Great guitar and surprisingly versatile given no tone pot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 21:10:02 GMT -5
I have a US Cabronita I got a good deal on. The pickups have definition, but not too bright. A/B'ed with other guitars, it is lower output. I love it and think one volume knob is perfect for this guitar.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 13, 2021 9:46:36 GMT -5
I need to build a wide range pickup thin line sometime. I wonder how a DeArmond version would sound... Not sure how they'd work dimensionally, it might screw with the neck angle. rdr, I'd be tempted to bread board it, or try it with some cardboard and a bunch of alligator clips. If you have enough spare components lying around, try the different vol/tone pot values and cap values to see what works best. An afternoon of fun experimenting could give you a very clear answer, far better than anything anecdotal you get online. You have a lot of variables on that guitar, and filtertrons can be a bit of a wildcard with stuff like that. My educated guess is that putting a meter on pots and finding 500k below spec or 250k above spec might put it in a sweet spot for pot values, and adding a tone control would offset the extra brightness of going up from a 250k pot.
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Post by rdr on Mar 13, 2021 12:10:03 GMT -5
Thanks all! And Funky, I would likely do it that way. But then again, if it sounds good enough, I might leave it stock and just play it. I know, blasphemy.
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