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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 18, 2020 23:05:11 GMT -5
I’m watching this show and I’m enjoying it. The basic premise is, guy is given the ability to travel through a wormhole back to 1960, for the purpose of stopping the Kennedy assassination.
Please DON’T post anything else about the show’s content. I’m not done with it and others may want to watch it.
But I got to thinking about the scenario and I thought I would throw it out there to our group.
1) You are given the ability to go back and attempt to stop an assassination of a US President. Not using Kennedy to take whether you agreed with his politics or personal activities out of the equation. For purposes of this question, it’s someone you either supported or would have supported.
2) You’ll be going back 3 years before the event, to allow time to plan. However, when you come back to present time, you return to the exact day you left, but only two minutes later.
3) If you die in the past, you’re dead and never get back.
4) You only get to return after the event unfolds, whether you successfully alter it or not.
5) If you succeed in changing the event, the “butterfly effect” may change other events that occur thereafter, maybe for the good, maybe not.
6) For purposes of this question, we’re taking family out of the picture. In the current day, you don’t have a family.
Do you take the mission, or do you leave well enough alone?
Please remember this is a discussion board. No yes or no answers, you have to justify your answer.
Whatcha got?
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jan 19, 2020 0:31:25 GMT -5
I've had enough near-disasters in my life that I would be afraid to change a single thing. I could very easily be dead or in prison or any number of bad outcomes and my escaping those outcomes was not my own doing. Life worked out for me far better "by accident" than by my own design. And the same goes for world affairs. I do not have any confidence that any meddling by me would have been for the better. Many of us may look back and say "if only", but we have no idea what we are saying, because we don't know how things would have really turned out.
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Post by cagey on Jan 19, 2020 17:06:44 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Jan 19, 2020 17:11:39 GMT -5
😂😂😂
Good one, Cagey.
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Jan 19, 2020 22:17:17 GMT -5
When I got to the "Butterly effect", I decided my answer would be "no". Nobody knows if things would have turned out better, or worse. Just different.
Then I got to the part about not having a family. In that case, I've really got very little to lose. (Except that I'm probably rich, if I never got married.)
As for "taking the mission", there should be a large payment involved, but I'm assuming there isn't, in this case. The incentive shouldn't be monetary gain. So what is it? Saving one life, an important one, with unknown results long term.
Taking all the above into account, being rich isn't enough to stop me from taking the mission, even if I might die during the mission. I don't have a family, anyway, when I return.
But the butterfly effect, that IS enough to stop me from taking the mission. I'd hate to be the one that might have made the world even worse off.
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Post by rickyguitar on Jan 19, 2020 23:30:15 GMT -5
Sounds awful risky. I would just say no.
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Post by leftrightout on Jan 20, 2020 0:08:27 GMT -5
Maybe if i could bring a couple of 59 Les Pauls back with me and some 54 Strats also  |
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jan 20, 2020 17:07:55 GMT -5
I would not, for the sole reason of the previously mentioned possible negative butterfly effects. That said, I think leftrightout is onto something. Can I go back to the 80s and buy some Apple stocks, gold, silver, and some vintage Fender and Gibson guitars?? I'd like to change my answer, but I'll need to travel back in a cargo van to complete the mission.  |
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Post by Chauncy Gardner on Jan 20, 2020 18:36:56 GMT -5
I read the novel by Stephen King, watched the TV show and I liked them both. As I move through the time continuum, I realize that things that I have prejudged an outcome on have been wrong more than right. I think I would let the universe move as it wants.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jan 20, 2020 21:39:18 GMT -5
No, I would not.
Not strictly because of the Butterfly Effect, but because of other things occurring that are totally unrelated to the change to history that I instigated.
There are no guarantees here with the time-travel concept. Things might be vastly better, or vastly worse upon my return.
We humans are capable of influencing only our Right Now and our near and long-term futures. The harder we work on these, *right now*, the better our future will be.
Regret is wasted energy.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 21, 2020 11:24:53 GMT -5
For the record, my answer was a "hell no", even though I would like to go back as a witness to certain events without even trying to intervene, I would be afraid that my mere presence would somehow butterfly effect the crap out of it and then we'd all wind up in a worse situation.
Now if I could do it AND be invisible...
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jan 21, 2020 11:44:20 GMT -5
I feel exactly like Rok -- I'm not the one you guys want driving this bus.
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Post by dkearnes on Jan 21, 2020 12:16:16 GMT -5
My take is, how do we not know that people aren't going back in time and effecting history, now and in the past?
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 21, 2020 12:18:31 GMT -5
My take is, how do we not know that people aren't going back in time and effecting history, now and in the past? Getting reported to the FBI/CIA in your second post is a new Me's record, congrats!! |
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Post by hilltop87 on Jan 21, 2020 12:19:02 GMT -5
I have often thought about the same thing with Buddy, Ritchie and the Big Bopper. Don't get on that damn plane.
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Post by dkearnes on Jan 21, 2020 12:19:47 GMT -5
I'll just go back and fix that!
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 21, 2020 14:00:38 GMT -5
I'll just go back and fix that! Wow, keep an eye on this guy. He's got it all figured out!! |
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 21, 2020 14:01:57 GMT -5
I have often thought about the same thing with Buddy, Ritchie and the Big Bopper. Don't get on that damn plane. If you did that, then Ritchie Valens didn't die, the movie La Bamba was never made, and you ruined Lou Diamond Phillips' career!! Butterfly effect!!! |
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jan 21, 2020 21:10:59 GMT -5
I have often thought about the same thing with Buddy, Ritchie and the Big Bopper. Don't get on that damn plane. Or if Waylon Jennings DID. *cue Twilight Zone music* |
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Post by Leftee on Jan 21, 2020 22:52:10 GMT -5
“Butterfly effect the crap out of it”
^ Modern Poetry
I wouldn’t do it. I don’t have that grandiose a view of myself that, somehow, I could be successful.
Now... traveling back 10,000 years to domesticate the giraffe instead of the dog?!?! I’m your man! We’d all be living in really tall houses right now.
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