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Post by Rick Knight on Mar 13, 2021 17:05:55 GMT -5
What does the term mean to you? Examples welcome.
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Post by Wish on Mar 13, 2021 17:18:15 GMT -5
In-A-Gouda-Da-Vida
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Post by LesTele on Mar 13, 2021 17:27:13 GMT -5
You did ask
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Post by Wish on Mar 13, 2021 17:31:54 GMT -5
The Velveeta Underground
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Post by LesTele on Mar 13, 2021 17:33:28 GMT -5
Don’t forget Alison Brie!
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 13, 2021 17:37:18 GMT -5
To me a lot of the 80's hair bands were cheesy.
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Post by HenryJ on Mar 13, 2021 18:09:09 GMT -5
Usually one uses the term "cheesy" to refer to a work in a genre that one is not a fan of.
For example, if you're not into country music, then you might find country and western versions of traditional Christmas songs to be a tad cheesy.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Mar 13, 2021 18:25:27 GMT -5
Mr. you're a cheddar man than I. I'm pretty sure that's what they're saying.
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Post by tmc on Mar 13, 2021 18:36:00 GMT -5
I think of cheesy music as a bit of a formulaic gimmick, much like commercial jingles.
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Post by budg on Mar 13, 2021 19:08:08 GMT -5
The Lettermen Bobby Sherman Paper Lace Herman’s Hermits Paul Revere and the Raiders 1910 Fruitgum Company
That’s just the 60s, but every era had their cheesy music. In the 50s it was Doo Wop.
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Post by Taildragger on Mar 13, 2021 20:17:33 GMT -5
•The Bleus •Roquefort & Roll •Cream (cheese)
But seriously:
•easy listening
•elevator muzak
•bubblegum pop
•99% of rap
•heavily-orchestrated versions of hard rock
•"please hold, all lines are busy at this time, but the next available representative will be with you presently" music
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Post by jefe46 on Mar 13, 2021 20:33:26 GMT -5
Singer songwriters.
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Post by Bopper on Mar 14, 2021 12:41:05 GMT -5
Paul Revere and the Raiders No way! Well, maybe the presentation...
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Post by Vibroluxer on Mar 14, 2021 13:08:40 GMT -5
I have to nominate Seasons in the Sun
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Post by modbus on Mar 14, 2021 13:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 14, 2021 13:39:35 GMT -5
These kinds of threads usually turn out to be all of us taking turns crapping on each other's faves.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Mar 14, 2021 14:32:53 GMT -5
These kinds of threads usually turn out to be all of us taking turns crapping on each other's faves. It's pretty much all just "ear candy". I've always believed that in most things simplicity usually proves to be best. I don't find much to admire in folks who's ready response it to "crap" on things. Here's a song I found recently and had never heard. Quite simplistic, but Uncle Ted is having a blast. His is not the most perfect video or audio, but it is a live performance
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Post by budg on Mar 14, 2021 14:57:51 GMT -5
These kinds of threads usually turn out to be all of us taking turns crapping on each other's faves. Thing is , we see these bands and songs in hindsight. So many of those were not cheesy when they were popular . Looking back a lot of us feel differently( at least I know I do) . Good example is a band I was crazy about called Black Oak Arkansas. Loved them at the time . Today I find them pretty cheesy . On the opposite end is that dang song Build me Up Buttercup. Cheesy as all get out back in the day. Today I think it is a cool song. Go figure.
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Post by Opie on Mar 14, 2021 15:32:55 GMT -5
Any pianist that for every single melody note plays an appreggio. My wife and I one time couldn't stop laughing at one such cheese master at a bar lounge.
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Mar 14, 2021 16:11:13 GMT -5
Interesting subject: Over time; depending on what era (year), the genre of the music, and when it was released; any song could fall into that category. I played a lot of theatre musicals, there was many a song I didn't think would go anywhere with the stage arrangement. However, some artist, musician, or group would do a cover version, make changes, and knock it out of the park. On a different post, the song "Aquarius" was mentioned; this song was originally from the musical "Hair", along with "Where's the Sunshine". The original show arrangements went no-where; until the "Fifth Dimension" did their cover of the medley "Aquarius/Where's the Sunshine". Anybody from my generation recognizes that melody line right away.
Bars on the Jersey Shore, which featured live bands, didn't care if the music was "Cheesy" at any point; as long as they drew a crowd and the sales were moving. I saw a lot of different musical styles, combined by bands to accommodate the crowd. Some of the combinations (including Cheesy) were quite successful. (I'm sure the alcoholic beverages helped a lot.)
I guess you have to look at the value of the whole song, and not take it out of text, or put a label on it.
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Post by langford on Mar 14, 2021 16:38:17 GMT -5
Grizbear-NJ.. Excellent point on the importance of performance. I remember watching a video of Richard Thompson covering Britney Spears' "Whoops, I Did It Again." At first, the audience laughed, but it was soon captivated. In other words, it wasn't the song itself that put people off. It was commercial/bubble-gum approach from Britanny's producers that many found shallow/offensive. I like VH-1's classic album series for the same reason, especially when it's featuring bands I don't like. Digging deep into the thought processes behind making the music usually changes my (often hasty) opinions. I may not be a fan of the band, but I almost always end thinking of them as smart and creative people.
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Post by stl80 on Mar 14, 2021 16:47:03 GMT -5
I saw Black Oak Arkansas in the early 70's. They had the longest hair and the loudest music that I had experienced up to that time. I've seen them a couple of times since and kinda like them. Jim
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Post by tmc on Mar 16, 2021 13:47:20 GMT -5
I liked this back in the day. Cutting the cheese...
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Post by Leftee on Mar 16, 2021 14:08:46 GMT -5
Giraffes are cheese-colored.
Coincidence?
I think not!
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Post by Leftee on Mar 16, 2021 14:26:51 GMT -5
That’s some prime Velveeta, tmc. 😎
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 16, 2021 14:37:44 GMT -5
I liked this back in the day. Cutting the cheese... Oh man, there it is. Several years before we sold our cottage in northern Ontario a fella across the lake who used to be a drinking buddy and trouble hooligan with my brother played that about 50 times in row at concert volume. I think he was trying to piss me off but I couldn't help LMAO at that solo, especially considering the source and surroundings.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Mar 17, 2021 13:49:15 GMT -5
I've got nothing punny, but I do have a serious answer. I've always thought any group that, when performing live, has background music that isn't being performed live. Think boy bands with drums, keys, guitar etc but it's just 5 guys dancing and singing on stage. Isn't that really just karaoke?
That, my friends, is grade a limburger.
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Post by Mikeyguitar on Mar 18, 2021 7:47:17 GMT -5
I think of "cheesy" in 2 ways:
1) music that doesn't really have much "substance" and is a bit light weight. Mostly stuff from the 1970's like "Billy Don't Be a Hero". But I just mentioned to my wife about 2 days ago how some of the 70's songs are actually quite cleaver...or at least mark the time, even if a few years ago I might view them as cheesy.
2) Stuff that's just over the top. Someone mentioned 1980's hair bands. I find the music to be quite good and the outfits to be part of the era and genre. But what I find cheesy about some of them are gimmicky things like OVERLY obvious sex innuendos, the lead singer talking in a song - like, "Hey Vince! - look at that one!"...or, a lot of David Lee Roth antics - even though I consider him to be probably one of the best front men ever. I also consider sound effects to be cheesy - like sirens, car noises, stuff like that.
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Post by Rick Knight on Mar 18, 2021 10:14:33 GMT -5
Sometime in the early years of this century, I met a guy who wanted (unsuccessfully, as far as I know) to start a band that specialized in cheesy music. Looking at the partial song list he had at the time, I didn’t see a common denominator. There were songs I liked, disliked, and didn’t recognize. Some had a humorous element, others didn't. The OP resulted from hearing Love Shack by The B52s, which was on his list. That led to a conversation with my wife about what cheesy music is. We reached no consensus and disagreed about whether some songs qualify so I decided to ask what the great minds of Moe’s think. Despite your assistance, I still don't know how to define the term.
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Mar 18, 2021 12:41:03 GMT -5
I can see we are painting the term "Cheesy" with a very vide brush. So lets look at some of the previous observations.
Do the songs lyrics make the difference? In that regards there were several songs that highlighted the artist's position on a number of different issues. The War in Vietnam, Politics, Social Issues; these were all mentioned at some point during the period. Was the song influenced by West coast or East coast cultures; the best examples would be the Beach boys (West coast), and the "Coffee House" artists from NYC (East Coast) like Joni Mitchell, and Simon & Garfunkel. If you didn't like the topic, I'm sure you considered the lyrics "cheesy".
The recording studio (record label) often dictated the musical "style" they would promote. Musical producers controlled the direction of music, probably without even knowing it. How many stories are out there, where artists change labels because of artistic differences, (like censorship) regarding their music. The label and producers were only interested in making a profit; if they were open to new and expanding ideas; then great. Again: If you didn't like what you heard; it fell into the "C" classification.
Regarding the instrumentation and "sound effects": Everybody was looking for something new or different, just to stand out; and studio technicians were constantly coming up with novel ideas and technics to accommodate. Studio musicians did the same thing. I know I'm dating myself; but before digital electronic technology, you had to have the "Gong", "Wind Chime(s)", or other percussion item in the studio with you to record. The audio techs actually utilized items (like sirens) to get the effect they were looking for. I personally hated the concept of a analog or digital "drum loop"; my own personal opinion; it took the skill and musicianship out of the mix. I feel the same is true now regarding any string, key, or wind instrument.
Stage antics were part of the image the band/artist wanted to project. I would often disregard the visual, and listen to what was being played. My own personal observation: a lot of bands could not reproduce their "studio" sound on stage. How many complaints were raised regarding "Lip-Syncing"? I also discovered that many name bands used and incorporated recordings into their "Live" performances.
To this day: if I am searching You-Tube for a song, I look for a live version. In many cases I learn a new approach, or technique to the song by doing this.
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