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Post by windmill on Aug 13, 2021 21:09:16 GMT -5
I slung the strap over the shoulder and went to strum the strings as almost a reflex motion and found my hand was on the body behind the bridge.
The bridge about 6 inches to the left of where I expected it to be. To play it when it was on the strap I had to pull the guitar back to my right.
The bloke who owns it is going to sell it as he also finds it too awkward.
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Post by Leftee on Aug 14, 2021 8:31:15 GMT -5
They were an odd duck for Gibson, that’s for sure.
I’ve never owned or even played one.
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Post by sirWheat on Aug 14, 2021 14:19:21 GMT -5
I love mine. It feels lighter than my Les Paul, which is about eight pounds. Very little neck dive, not enough to bother me, and when played with a strap it's nonexistent.
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Post by pdf64 on Aug 14, 2021 14:46:13 GMT -5
Bear in mind there’s the regular Firebird and the Non Reverse Firebird. I envisage that the 2 would hang rather differently. From the issue, I suspect that post #1 is in regard of the Non Reverse version.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Aug 14, 2021 22:09:11 GMT -5
It was Gibson's reaction to Fender kicking their arse in the market. They brought in Ray Deitrich, an industrial design wiz from Detroit who has several car designs under his belt, to come up with something that connected guitars to popular automobile culture and liven up Gibson's stodgy "old man" guitar designs.
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Post by Rick Knight on Aug 15, 2021 6:27:04 GMT -5
I like the way Firebirds look, but find them uncomfortable to play.
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Post by MoJoe on Aug 15, 2021 6:45:20 GMT -5
#OP: Returned mine for the same reason (plus some others) in 2016 upon ordering blind. Pity as I love the design but couldn't cope and bought a Les Paul Deluxe instead.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 15, 2021 9:37:24 GMT -5
They were notoriously also hard to build in a factory setting.
Some old guitar designs are just quirky and destined to be one-trick-ponies. Jaguars and Jazzmasters are similar. You either learn to deal with their quirks (or embrace them) or you give up and go back to the staple guitars.
Rickenbacker is an interesting case study. They're quirky, but the manufacturer has shown little-to-no interest in ironing out the quirks. It is like if Fender never made a Tele any way except with a heel adjust truss rod, 7.25" radius and straight 3-barrel saddles; sure, the classic is great, but it would be frustrating to never have the option of more modern specs. I think a Firebird could be a good candidate for a more vanilla version with more normal hardware. But, maybe it would lose some charm, too.
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Post by matryx81 on Aug 15, 2021 22:23:32 GMT -5
Rickenbacker is an interesting case study. They're quirky, but the manufacturer has shown little-to-no interest in ironing out the quirks. My view on this is coming from the bass, but I do not find the quirks of Rickenbacker to be that problematic. Yes, I own 2 4003s basses and have plans for one of the 4003W basses.
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Post by ninworks on Aug 16, 2021 12:54:23 GMT -5
I have never played a Firebird guitar but I borrowed a Thunderbird bass from a buddy once for a recording session. It didn't bother me but it was a bass. The thing that got me was the case it was in. It was big enough to put a pool table inside of it.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Aug 16, 2021 16:23:57 GMT -5
Love them great accesss to all the fretts. Johnny Winter could really make em sing
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Post by windmill on Aug 16, 2021 18:00:21 GMT -5
I have never played a Firebird guitar but I borrowed a Thunderbird bass from a buddy once for a recording session. It didn't bother me but it was a bass. The thing that got me was the case it was in. It was big enough to put a pool table inside of it. Now that you mention it...
The owner commented on how big the case was, but when I saw it I thought it was no bigger than the one for my long scale bass.
It didn't register at the time that is was just for a guitar.
The case for the Thunderbird bass must be large !
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Post by Leftee on Aug 17, 2021 13:13:37 GMT -5
I recently acquired a Dean Z - replete with a Coffin Case. Those a stupid-big.
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Post by guildx700 on Aug 17, 2021 18:58:47 GMT -5
Never cared for the Firebird, but I fell in love with the Explorer, I got a new black gold hardware 1979 in 1981, hung at the store for 2 years before I saved it. Still have it, and still love it. VERY comfortable, and it's a fretless wonder which I take to very well.
I like my Flying Vee, but nowhere near as much as my Explorer. Almost bought a Moderne, a no sell hanging around from 1983 in 1988, could've got it for $785, big mistake passing on that one, they go for big bucks now. Funny no one wanted em back then. They have horrible tuning with that "Gumby" headstock.
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Post by Blacksunshine on Aug 17, 2021 21:47:50 GMT -5
I think they look SO cool!
But I've never bonded with one.
Maybe I need to buy one to give it a shot??
Especially seeing that 335s are on backorder right now and all.....
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Post by herb on Sept 28, 2021 15:26:23 GMT -5
I have a Firebird I '63 reissue. When non-guitar people see it they always say it's their favorite looking one that I own. Especially women folk, the most important of the non-guitar people breed. I admit it is a killer design. Mine has two strap buttons on the forward part of the guitar. I use the one centered on the base of the neck, rather than the one on the bout. Also, I had to adjust the strap I use more than any guitar I've ever owned to find the right length for me to play it comfortably. It has a great feeling neck, it's not too heavy and the layout is so simple. I'm finally going to replace the pickup with a proper authentic type. There's a mini hum-bucker on there now which is not even close to what was on the originals. I don't know why Gibson uses that pup. Too cheap, I guess, as the would have to tool to make a pup specifically for reissue Firebirds. It's output is way too hot. Over 10 ohms. Originally it had a specially designed single coil pup around 6-7ohms. Anyway, I love playing it. P1000672
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 1, 2021 16:26:52 GMT -5
Johnny Winter. Allan Collins and Claptom made them ssing
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Post by Ayns on Oct 1, 2021 17:21:29 GMT -5
My mate bought a ‘76 bicentennial Firebird when they were released back in the day. He couldn’t afford to keep up the payments on it so it had to go, but he kept the serial number in case he ever saw it again. I hated it.
Re the Moderne, I still regret not buying the Ibanez Korina version that sat in my local guitar shop for ages in the late 70’s for about £200. They go for thousands now,…..if you can find one.
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