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Post by hilltop87 on Dec 30, 2021 13:02:09 GMT -5
I have recently been listening to a local classical music station while at work. I will admit I am a total neophyte, but I enjoy the vibe.
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Post by Pinetree on Dec 30, 2021 13:50:47 GMT -5
I was visiting a friend the other day, and she had some kind of postmodern radio jukebox thing on Pandora that basically sounded like it was 1920.. and I dug it.
But I would never intentionally listen to classical music.
The guy next door goes on about jazz music every time I see him, I've tried it but it's not for me.
Then again, I'm the guy who listens to Chinese metalcore.
The best thing about music is that anyone can listen to whatever they like.
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Post by gato on Dec 30, 2021 14:10:47 GMT -5
I was raised on classical music. I must have 150 CD's of classical stuff nestled among my CD's of rock. Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, etc. In the car ... classical. At home when not practicing bass runs ... classical. See, when I'm sitting at the computer writing stuff, I can't listen to rock because I get distracted. But the classical stuff just washes over me.
And then there's the classic and rock blend, like the East Village Opera Company, doing here an old vocal standard (the Flower Duet) that starts off "normal" but then starts adding in drums, guitar and bass ... 4:15 in the video.
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Post by rickyguitar on Dec 30, 2021 14:13:24 GMT -5
I like pretty much any style as long as it is well done. Well almost. No tin pan alley please. a lot of classical music rocks.. Well you know.
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Post by guildx700 on Dec 30, 2021 14:21:10 GMT -5
There used to be a good classical station on FM back in the day, I don't think there are any now, at least in my reception area. It was nice as the DJ would talk about each selection giving some good insight into the piece he was going to play.
I've got a small selection of classical on vinyl, but it's narrow in scope.
Holst The Planets is one of my favs. Here's a selection form it:
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Post by tahitijack on Dec 30, 2021 14:24:37 GMT -5
I never listened much to my parents music, now called the great American Song Book. This year I started learning to play piano/keys and have gained a new appreciation for those songs. I really enjoy playing these songs, heavy on Frank and Tony, and already have a short list of songs I can play reasonably well: As Time Goes By, Smile (Charlie Chaplin), The Summer Wind, I Left My Heart In San Francisco, Que Sara, Sara and King Of The Road.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Dec 30, 2021 15:13:45 GMT -5
At least a quarter of the physical media I own is Classical music -- vinyl, CDs, and tape. Right now I'm listening to Boccherini's Cello Concerto in D Major played by I Musici de Montreal on a MHS LP. I was first seriously exposed to the music listening to WGBH, the NPR affiliate in Boston, back in the late 70s thru the early 90s. They had a daily five hour show in the mornings by Robert J. Lurtsema where he would play anything that popped into his head and always accompanied the selections with in depth information about the composer, conductor, musicians, or maybe the historical context of the time the piece was composed. Of course he played the complete piece -- not just a single movement like is done at almost every classical station today. Then WGBH melted into a pile of excrement along with the other NPR affiliates and that was that.
Anyway, thanks Robert J -- I learned a lot from you.
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Post by guildx700 on Dec 30, 2021 15:26:10 GMT -5
At least a quarter of the physical media I own is Classical music -- vinyl, CDs, and tape. Right now I'm listening to Boccherini's Cello Concerto in D Major played by I Musici de Montreal on a MHS LP. I was first seriously exposed to the music listening to WGBH, the NPR affiliate in Boston, back in the late 70s thru the early 90s. They had a daily five hour show in the mornings by Robert J. Lurtsema where he would play anything that popped into his head and always accompanied the selections with in depth information about the composer, conductor, musicians, or maybe the historical context of the time the piece was composed. Of course he played the complete piece -- not just a single movement like is done at almost every classical station today. Then WGBH melted into a pile of excrement along with the other NPR affiliates and that was that.
Anyway, thanks Robert J -- I learned a lot from you.
Yeah....NPR was great back in the day.
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Post by Taildragger on Dec 30, 2021 15:56:05 GMT -5
My folks had a bunch of 78-rpm classical records they'd play on the turntable in their Magnavox hi-fi console. I heard Beethoven, Bach, Tchaikovsky, Rimsky Korsakov, Khachaturian, Mozart, Chopin, Mussorgsky and Stravinsky a lot as a child. Still dig a bunch of it though I seldom can identify the specific pieces by name, no matter how familiar they sound. My personal favorites tend to be the early 20th-century "primitive" pieces of Russian composers such as Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev and Stravinsky as well as certain pieces by Webern, Schoenberg, Berg, Shostakovich and Bartok. I'm especially attracted to dissonance and uneven time signatures.
My music listening tastes span a pretty broad spectrum: but disco,"easy-listening", rap, hip-hop and opera are genres I generally can't stomach. The technical skill achieved by opera singers is truly amazing but, aesthetically, that vocal style doesn't appeal to me at all.
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Post by matryx81 on Dec 30, 2021 17:26:43 GMT -5
This year I started learning to play piano/keys and have gained a new appreciation for those songs. I think the density of those tunes can be lost on someone until they have to play them on a piano. They may not be my first choice to listen to, but they are most enjoyable to play. To keep it on topic: I wish I could like classical more than I do. That is not say I find it unenjoyable or unappealing, but it is not usually my first choice. I will listen to it from time to time and I need to branch out into other stuff I am not so familiar with (my taste tends to run to the Russian composers. I need to really explore Rachmaninoff and I am curious about the works of Sibelius. I would take recommendations if anyone would like to offer some. I particularly enjoy the second symphony by Rachmaninoff).
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Post by Taildragger on Dec 30, 2021 18:13:25 GMT -5
Here are three of my favs, matryx:
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Post by satele on Dec 30, 2021 20:34:01 GMT -5
Chopin, for me....And I'm no classical music-o-phile. But there's definitely something about his music that rings my bells!
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Post by michael on Dec 30, 2021 22:08:56 GMT -5
i like music... i can listen to anything so long as it's done well... i listen to mostly classical from Renaissance to modern. being a brass player i'm particularly fond of the Russian composers... i get a chance to really BELT IT OUT!!! most of the time i'm seeing a hand in my face because we're too loud. BUT... i have a large collection (at least i think it's large) of CD's of bluegrass, blues, rock, some older country (like jimmy rogers), jazz... my spotify library represents these.
we used to support NPR with yearly contributions. when they went all-talk we pulled our support. when asked why, we told them we hated NEWS/TALK RADIO... they didn't seem to care.
as a band/music teacher i tried to teach the students to enjoy all kinds. the FANTASIA video's are great... there are bugs bunny cartoons using a lot of classical music... there was a HOOKED ON CLASSICS recording that was popular for a while.
i hear classical licks in rock music. i don't know if they were consciously copied, coincidence, or just something they'd heard and used.
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Dec 31, 2021 17:20:03 GMT -5
This is my day in and day out background in the office. ClassicFM broadcasting from London. Very happy with Internet radio and streaming. Puts the world at my fingertips. Like shortwave with none of the reception issues. www.classicfm.com
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Post by windmill on Dec 31, 2021 18:05:15 GMT -5
There is nothing better than luxuriating in the sound of a full orchestra playing some of the world's greatest music in a purpose-built concert hall.
That is what all Hi-Fi tries to emulate.
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Post by FlyonNylon on Jan 1, 2022 19:59:03 GMT -5
I rather like classical music but the truth is I don't listen to it very often anymore.
First played cello then piano starting around age 5 so my earliest memories of music were all classical. Never really liked either (typical outdoor kid made to practice daily) then got into guitar around age 13. First musical hero was Kurt Cobain, then Jimi Hendrix and I got really into electric guitar and classic rock. Then before college took my acoustic guitar to Austria for a summer course, met a girl who liked the few fingerstyle songs I knew, came back and got really into classical guitar (was a music major). Anyway probably the most emotive moments I've had listening/playing music were discovering classical pieces. I'm boring and tend to consider Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven the best composers of their respective musical periods. Then of course Schubert, Chopin, Mendelssohn and many of the other Romantics trying to figure out what to do after Beethoven. I enjoy some modern pieces but truthfully have a more traditional opinion that music should be beautiful and disagree with the modern music philosophy of evoking negative experiences through music that basically developed due to Schoenberg and then all the melodrama that followed WW1.
Anyway I have nearly complete works of Bach/Mozart/Beethoven on CD and listened to so much of that repertoire while studying in med school that it almost wore it out for me and now I don't really listen to it very much. I read an interesting quote a decade or so ago that someone living in Europe the 1830s would only have 3 or so lifetime opportunities to hear Beethoven's Violin Concerto, since there was just so much new music being played "older" pieces weren't often performed until Mendelssohn revived Bach. I've listened to that piece like hundreds of times lol.
Now usually keep it simple with folk/jazz/classic acoustic stuff.
A few accessible classical favorites:
The Chaconne - can skip to 4:30 if you want the good stuff.
Mozart Piano Concerto 23 2nd movement:
This is a nice Beethoven piece.. don't know where to begin with Beethoven but if you haven't gone down that rabbit hole I'd recommend it, Beethoven to me is kind of proof that life may actually have some sort of meaning. idk ymmv. Piano Concerto No. 5: Adagio
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Post by guildx700 on Jan 1, 2022 20:20:09 GMT -5
I rather like classical music but the truth is I don't listen to it very often anymore. First played cello then piano starting around age 5 so my earliest memories of music were all classical. Never really liked either (typical outdoor kid made to practice daily) then got into guitar around age 13. First musical hero was Kurt Cobain, then Jimi Hendrix and I got really into electric guitar and classic rock. Then before college took my acoustic guitar to Austria for a summer course, met a girl who liked the few fingerstyle songs I knew, came back and got really into classical guitar (was a music major). Anyway probably the most emotive moments I've had listening/playing music were discovering classical pieces. I'm boring and tend to consider Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven the best composers of their respective musical periods. Then of course Schubert, Chopin, Mendelssohn and many of the other Romantics trying to figure out what to do after Beethoven. I enjoy some modern pieces but truthfully have a more traditional opinion that music should be beautiful and disagree with the modern music philosophy of evoking negative experiences through music that basically developed due to Schoenberg and then all the melodrama that followed WW1. Anyway I have nearly complete works of Bach/Mozart/Beethoven on CD and listened to so much of that repertoire while studying in med school that it almost wore it out for me and now I don't really listen to it very much. I read an interesting quote a decade or so ago that someone living in Europe the 1830s would only have 3 or so lifetime opportunities to hear Beethoven's Violin Concerto, since there was just so much new music being played "older" pieces weren't often performed until Mendelssohn revived Bach. I've listened to that piece like hundreds of times lol. Now usually keep it simple with folk/jazz/classic acoustic stuff. A few accessible classical favorites: The Chaconne - can skip to 4:30 if you want the good stuff. I'll never forget seeing Segovia live....amazing.
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Post by hushnel on Jan 1, 2022 20:27:36 GMT -5
I’m still working on Chan Chan by the Buena Vista Social Club
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Post by mikem on Jan 1, 2022 22:10:13 GMT -5
I never really listened to classical music, only jazz, for many years. On a whim in '99(?) I auditioned to play in a regional orchestra...and was accepted.
A year later the orchestra played Mahler's "Resurrection" Symphony and I was hooked......
Shostakovich, Mahler, I'm totally hooked in.....totally amazing composers IMO.
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Post by Vibroluxer on Jan 2, 2022 9:24:41 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of Mozart and Copeland. I know people love Chopin but I can't take the guy. Too sad and too many notes.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jan 2, 2022 15:52:43 GMT -5
This is a nice Beethoven piece.. don't know where to begin with Beethoven but if you haven't gone down that rabbit hole I'd recommend it, Beethoven to me is kind of proof that life may actually have some sort of meaning. idk ymmv. Piano Concerto No. 5: Adagio I love Beethoven. If I were on death row my last meal would be something by Ludwig van. Of the piano concerti No. 4 is my favorite.
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Post by windmill on Jan 2, 2022 17:31:53 GMT -5
And then there's the classic and rock blend, like the East Village Opera Company, doing here an old vocal standard (the Flower Duet) that starts off "normal" but then starts adding in drums, guitar and bass ... 4:15 in the video. This is fantastic
If there was more of this type of blending old and new, classical with modern instruments, it would attract a far larger audience and "get the kids in" as they say.
I would have loved this as a teenager discovering music.
Classical music to me then was suits and ties, sit down, shut up and listen, formal concerts in concerts halls, not normal people having fun, playing, listening and dancing to music.
I remember seeing a British tv show called How Music Works, it was a good show, but the best thing they did was show a group singing a medieval folk song with multiple parts and slowly bringing a drum beat into it. As someone who grew up on rock'n'roll, to hear that this odd type of music was basically the same as the music I had always listened to was a revelation.
There should be more of it
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Post by langford on Jan 2, 2022 18:03:54 GMT -5
Slightly OT, but I've always had trouble with the term "classical" music. To my mind, it represents a specific era covering the late 18th and early 19th centuries. The classical era (Mozart, Hayden) followed the Baroque era (Bach) and was succeeded by the Romantic era (Beethoven), and so on. I know I'm being totally pedantic, but I've always wondered if there's a word that covers all the eras. I've never been able to come up with anything, and "classical" is widely accepted. So, I go with the flow. Still, it niggles.
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Post by Laker on Jan 2, 2022 18:30:59 GMT -5
In college I took a “music history and appreciation” class where we studied baroque, etc and it gave me a good understanding of what is considered classical music and I really came to enjoy it.
Back when my wife and I started doing our motorcycle trips (as an example: we did the Key West Poker Run 10 times over a twenty year period) I’d always look for whatever local PBS station I could find to listen to Bach, opera, or whatever I could find while we were on the road. It was easier to find that type of music than it was to hunt around for the closest rock or country station as we passed through an area. Now days I just put my stuff on a thumb drive and play my own stuff.
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Post by gato on Jan 3, 2022 6:35:03 GMT -5
And then there's the classic and rock blend, like the East Village Opera Company, doing here an old vocal standard (the Flower Duet) that starts off "normal" but then starts adding in drums, guitar and bass ... 4:15 in the video. This is fantastic
If there was more of this type of blending old and new, classical with modern instruments, it would attract a far larger audience and "get the kids in" as they say.
I would have loved this as a teenager discovering music.
Classical music to me then was suits and ties, sit down, shut up and listen, formal concerts in concerts halls, not normal people having fun, playing, listening and dancing to music.
I remember seeing a British tv show called How Music Works, it was a good show, but the best thing they did was show a group singing a medieval folk song with multiple parts and slowly bringing a drum beat into it. As someone who grew up on rock'n'roll, to hear that this odd type of music was basically the same as the music I had always listened to was a revelation.
There should be more of it
Back in 1962 B. Bumble and the Stingers came out with "Nutrocker", a lively mix of several classical pieces
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Post by Vibroluxer on Jan 3, 2022 8:56:54 GMT -5
Lest we forget ELO, Roll Over Beethoven.
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Post by hushnel on Jan 3, 2022 11:58:56 GMT -5
I think of classical music as the pieces that endure, that don’t fade, and remain in circulation.
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Post by hilltop87 on Jan 3, 2022 16:14:08 GMT -5
Wow. Some great comments here.
Question: Could "classical" music be referred to as "chamber room" music?
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jan 3, 2022 16:41:26 GMT -5
My awakening came on a road trip through Mississippi looking for a decent station and found some NPR station just beginning Beethoven's 7th Symphony (von karajan/berlin philharmonic), I was by myself so turned it way up, and just drove and listened, and got lost in it. Somehow I was able to keep the signal for the entire performance and when I got home I went and bought my first classical LP.
But most thrilling was when I attended a wedding at a grand home that had hired a small chamber orchestra to play in a large round very live room, and OH MY! The sound! The tone of a cello filling the room is as thrilling as any LP thru cranked Marshall stack!
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Post by Taildragger on Jan 3, 2022 17:03:52 GMT -5
Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" has been a favorite of mine since childhood. I think it was one of the most powerful pieces of music ever written. It actually caused a riot at its premiere performance in 1913. Had Stravinsky anticipated this reaction, he might well have constructed a C&W bar, chicken wire fence to protect the performers onstage and in the orchestra pit: www.udiscovermusic.com/classical-features/stravinsky-rite-of-spring/In terms of violent audience reaction, old Igor beat the Punk Rockers to the punch by multiple decades...
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