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Post by hushnel on Feb 13, 2022 13:13:43 GMT -5
Most that come to mind are big Cities with a great music scenes. Others for recording and/or the number of musicians they have generated. I wouldn’t be surprised if the list included multiple cites in every state.
I’ll start with Nashville and Muscle Shoals
We just may be the Music Nation
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Post by Bopper on Feb 13, 2022 13:15:49 GMT -5
Detroit
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 13, 2022 13:17:28 GMT -5
Austin, Memphis.
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Post by Vibroluxer on Feb 13, 2022 13:28:33 GMT -5
Philly. Bakersfield. Athens, Ga.
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Post by samspade on Feb 13, 2022 13:40:15 GMT -5
It used to be where certain areas would develop a sound basically because of isolation. Bands would feed off of each other. Seattle, Athens, Brooklyn, etc. Now things are distributed globally in real time, so the distilled sound doesn't develop. Because of this, I don't think 'scene' sounds will happen more frequently.
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Post by hushnel on Feb 13, 2022 13:41:18 GMT -5
Macon GA Brooklyn NY
Samspade, I agree with that to an extent. Still I think the local talent will influence the local youngsters. Dad had hundreds of albums and mom was plugged into the top 40 radio. I heard this stuff my whole life, still it was actually seeing live music that played a major influence on me wanting to play. Actually seeing the music coming from the musicians, feeling the sound and picking up on the audience a visceral affect that is not recordable, regardless of the media. Oh and Elvis movies “o)
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Post by tahitijack on Feb 13, 2022 16:34:09 GMT -5
Seattle and it's suburbs
My old hometown Kirkland has live music almost every night. Several local have made it to network talent shows.
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Post by jazzguy on Feb 13, 2022 16:46:32 GMT -5
Philly Philly Philly
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Post by Taildragger on Feb 13, 2022 17:25:04 GMT -5
A lot came out of SF and LA during the late 1960s / early 19670s, some good, some not so much so.
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Post by Laker on Feb 13, 2022 18:03:30 GMT -5
Surprised that no one has mentioned Chicago, the home of Chess Records and electric blues.
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Post by Taildragger on Feb 13, 2022 19:24:09 GMT -5
Surprised that no one has mentioned Chicago, the home of Chess Records and electric blues. No kidding: the effect of those recordings was huge. The Stones "2120 South Michigan Avenue" was an instrumental recorded there during the group's first U.S. tour in 1964 paying tribute to the influence of what had come out of that studio.
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Post by gbfun on Feb 14, 2022 6:10:53 GMT -5
Seattle ? Maybe during Nirvana et al.
CL ads describe a "musical wasteland" or "musical desert" nowadays...and there's really few places to play or develop.
Fast rising real estate prices and gentrification have been taking a toll.
And then there are the poor conduct and bad attitudes of the musicians in general.
It has been a land of screamo singers and heavy metal and rehashed blues and bands that seek players under 21 only.
Clearly generated from the "gamer" generation with poor social skills.
There's been a hip hop success or two, and maybe a pop success, but a Music City ?
That implies a Vibrant Active music scene.... full of all sorts of real talent. Nope.
There is some moderate talent here but not worthy of a Music City.
Not in this Century.
So far !
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Post by HenryJ on Feb 14, 2022 7:59:55 GMT -5
I started listening to Top 40 Rock and Roll in early 1962, after my brothers and I got pocket transistor radios for Christmas 1961. We lived in north Louisiana. When the rest of the family were watching prime-time TV in the den, my brother who was a year younger than I would go into the living room and we would listen to our radios, tuning in the stations that we could pick up at night.
One of them was WNOE, 1060 AM, from New Orleans. (The NO has nothing to do with New Orleans, but the NOE came from the station owner, former governor James A. Noe.) They would play the regional hits from New Orleans artists like Benny Spellman, Ernie K-Doe, Irma Thomas, Aaron Neville, Art Neville, etc. We heard their records at night. We didn't hear them in the daytime on stations such as KNOE in Monroe (where governor Noe lived) and all the others.
Now, Fats Domino was a national hitmaker, but the abovementioned artists, at the time, were mainly regional in SE Louisiana.
So, New Orleans.
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Feb 14, 2022 11:40:57 GMT -5
Madison in the 1960's was a great origin city for music. These days, it's a great destination city, lots of smaller and miid-size venues, along with larger concert halls, theaters, an arena, and big student population. But the local scene is pretty much just that, local. There is talent, but not a lot of energy, no one seems on the verge of busting out, like the old days when Steve Miller, Ben Sidran, Ken Adamany (who went on to manage Cheap Trick), Tracy Nelson and others were all part of a hoppin' local scene.
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Post by hushnel on Feb 14, 2022 12:06:35 GMT -5
Jacksonville, FL.
I’ll be checking out New Orleans for a few days early next month, it’s the first stop on what has become an annual tour of the US. It’s a tough choice wether I take the acoustic bass or the classical guitar. Storage in the RV is limited. If I had a double gig bag I might be able to take the classical and the Bisonic Bronco. The Phil Jones 2 by 4 could easily be stashed away. Even better would be the the 20” scale cigarbox bass. I could pull that off, it just may be weird enough to give me some creed in the Big Easy.
If it comes down to it, the classical would get much more use, it’s not like I’ll be sitting around a camp fire playing bass lines.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Feb 14, 2022 12:31:12 GMT -5
Dwight Yoakam's show is a run-down of the Bakersfield sound and reaching into the LA scene.
Pretty interesting hearing the stories and flow as he tells it on stage.
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Post by Laker on Feb 14, 2022 15:06:40 GMT -5
Madison in the 1960's was a great origin city for music. These days, it's a great destination city, lots of smaller and miid-size venues, along with larger concert halls, theaters, an arena, and big student population. But the local scene is pretty much just that, local. There is talent, but not a lot of energy, no one seems on the verge of busting out, like the old days when Steve Miller, Ben Sidran, Ken Adamany (who went on to manage Cheap Trick), Tracy Nelson and others were all part of a hoppin' local scene. I was playing at Madison’s “The Place” as the house band (think we were there for something like 3 months) with the Blind Giant of the Blues, Bryan lee, at about the time of the Mifflin Street Riot in ‘69. Madtown was a fun place to work in those days.
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Feb 14, 2022 15:44:42 GMT -5
Madison in the 1960's was a great origin city for music. These days, it's a great destination city, lots of smaller and miid-size venues, along with larger concert halls, theaters, an arena, and big student population. But the local scene is pretty much just that, local. There is talent, but not a lot of energy, no one seems on the verge of busting out, like the old days when Steve Miller, Ben Sidran, Ken Adamany (who went on to manage Cheap Trick), Tracy Nelson and others were all part of a hoppin' local scene. I was playing at Madison’s “The Place” as the house band (think we were there for something like 3 months) with the Blind Giant of the Blues, Bryan lee, at about the time of the Mifflin Street Riot in ‘69. Madtown was a fun place to work in those days. I was a student living in Madison, back then. Also working for Columbia Records as a college rep (world's greatest part-time job -- $15/week plus all the free records and concert tickets I wanted, and an expense account!). Our residence was a ground floor student tenement flat in the Miffland neighborhood. It was not a riot, except maybe a police riot, an overreaction to the first Mifflin Street block party -- I remember armored police vehicles patrolling the street, and we found spent tear gas canisters on our front porch each morning. We learned to huddle in the bathroom, with the shower running cold water, to filter the tear gas particles out of the air that penetrated into our place through the drafty windows. As they say, "dems was da days!"
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Post by hushnel on Feb 14, 2022 16:03:06 GMT -5
A lot was happening in Laurel Canyon in the Hollywood Hills West district of Los Angeles, back in the 60s. I was living in Wiesbaden and the southern suburbs of Washington D.C. much of the sixties.
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Post by tahitijack on Feb 14, 2022 18:50:59 GMT -5
Seattle ? Maybe during Nirvana et al. CL ads describe a "musical wasteland" or "musical desert" nowadays...and there's really few places to play or develop. Fast rising real estate prices and gentrification have been taking a toll. And then there are the poor conduct and bad attitudes of the musicians in general. It has been a land of screamo singers and heavy metal and rehashed blues and bands that seek players under 21 only. Clearly generated from the "gamer" generation with poor social skills. There's been a hip hop success or two, and maybe a pop success, but a Music City ? That implies a Vibrant Active music scene.... full of all sorts of real talent. Nope. There is some moderate talent here but not worthy of a Music City. Not in this Century. So far ! What part of Seattle do you live?
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Post by Laker on Feb 14, 2022 20:50:31 GMT -5
I was playing at Madison’s “The Place” as the house band (think we were there for something like 3 months) with the Blind Giant of the Blues, Bryan lee, at about the time of the Mifflin Street Riot in ‘69. Madtown was a fun place to work in those days. I was a student living in Madison, back then. Also working for Columbia Records as a college rep (world's greatest part-time job -- $15/week plus all the free records and concert tickets I wanted, and an expense account!). Our residence was a ground floor student tenement flat in the Miffland neighborhood. It was not a riot, except maybe a police riot, an overreaction to the first Mifflin Street block party -- I remember armored police vehicles patrolling the street, and we found spent tear gas canisters on our front porch each morning. We learned to huddle in the bathroom, with the shower running cold water, to filter the tear gas particles out of the air that penetrated into our place through the drafty windows. As they say, "dems was da days!" A couple other Madison clubs that I played over the years that were a lot of fun were the Churchkey (might have been close to where you lived) and Luther’s Blues (named after Luther Allison), and there was a brew pub close to the square (Great Dane ?). Former FDPer Pedro came out to that brew pub to catch our show.
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Post by gbfun on Feb 15, 2022 3:57:22 GMT -5
I lived there during the 90s. Back then there was a lot of creative energy and supportive audiences and the Rocket music newspaper documenting it all.
Nirvana came out of Aberdeen 100 miles south of Seattle and went worldwide, inspiring an explosion of copycat and knockoff bands.
The scene was different then. Life was cheaper for artists and I remember going to an open mic in an old hotel that featured a mic, a VibroKing, and seating for at least 50 in a long hall with no distractions. There were more clubs for live playing. It's said Nirvana played there many times.
Then a big earthquake hit. It caused the old hotel to end the open mic. Rumor had it that another key open mic was closed right after.
Then Cobain passed.
The Rocket folded.
"Musical wasteland" is a quote from a Craigslist ad from last month.
But I already knew that.
Also there are multiple CL ads lamenting how advertisers don't even respond to their own ads, and if they do, hardly anything ever comes from it.
I've watched Seattle from Bellevue. Bellevue has changed tremendously.
It was only notable for offering a weekly acoustic open mic in a mall.
I wouldn't be caught dead playing acoustic. I was getting all ready to hit the Seattle hotel scene...then the earthquake.
A music scene needs "infrastructure"...places to play, places to practice, people to meet.
Now, there is a TON of money in Bellevue and Seattle looking north.
And there's a TON of people watching TV, playing on the internet, and playing games.
Karaoke took over.
But there are more music ads in the last couple of years. And a lot of new youngish people moving in, generally around the Internet Giants.
So interest is rising but...almost no one has a decent place to play.
In Calif in the 70s, I remember a lot of neighborhoods had some kids playing in a garage at some point.
It's not that way here.
Very few decent places to play too.
Very limited "infrastructure".
And the audiences are busy watching TV or playing computer games.
I can't blame them really.
Most of the bands I've seen were of poor quality and painfully loud.
I'd rather watch TV too !
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Post by MoJoe on Feb 15, 2022 7:58:13 GMT -5
Not a city, but apart from Muscle Shoals, my musical place of longing has always been Upper NY State's Bearsville Studios and surroundings/Woodstock.
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Post by Opie on Feb 15, 2022 11:18:24 GMT -5
One or two acts came out of Kansas City.
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Post by K4 on Feb 15, 2022 11:27:48 GMT -5
Boston?
I used to play the Mpls Mn to Eau Claier Wi area. Frog town in St Paul was always a full house. Was a great area for music in the late 70's to 80's. I knew Prince when he was playing to empty houses. I didn't get his music but he was a cool cat.
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Post by Laker on Feb 15, 2022 11:52:32 GMT -5
Boston? I used to play the Mpls Mn to Eau Claier Wi area. Frog town in St Paul was always a full house. Was a great area for music in the late 70's to 80's. I knew Prince when he was playing to empty houses. I didn't get his music but he was a cool cat. We used to play Famous Dave's in Calhoun Square at Lake and Hennepin in Minneapolis (now closed I believe) and the Minnesota Music Cafe in St Paul. A couple of times we were at the St Paul location I was told that Prince's band was in the crowd; it was supposedly his hangout (don't know if that's true).
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Post by LeftyMeister on Feb 15, 2022 16:47:31 GMT -5
What? No Cleveland?
Joe Walsh/James Gang The Raspberries Chrissy Hynde Phil Keaggy The O-Jays Michael Stanley Band Ohio Players The Isley Brothers Tracy Chapman
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Feb 16, 2022 8:49:00 GMT -5
What? No Cleveland? Joe Walsh/James Gang The Raspberries Chrissy Hynde Phil Keaggy The O-Jays Michael Stanley Band Ohio Players The Isley Brothers Tracy Chapman Isley Brothers were the pride of Teaneck, NJ. Their record label was T-Neck (we distributed it in the 1970's). And, of course, my favorite Cleveland record ......
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Post by LeftyMeister on Feb 16, 2022 9:04:00 GMT -5
^^ I checked their bio on Wiki and it says they were from Cincinnati, not Cleveland. Hmmm! I'd heard incorrectly. They later moved to New York and eventually New jersey.
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Post by daddy on Feb 19, 2022 21:16:47 GMT -5
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