windmill
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Post by windmill on Feb 14, 2020 1:50:22 GMT -5
So I have got some and I 'm gonna use it !
But I have never done it before.
I have a couple of guitars that have a very dry looking fretbroads.
I was thinking to wet a bit of soft clothe and wiping it over the board a small bit at a time until it the board looks slightly damp.
Is there a proper way to do this or does everyone just do what they think best ?
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Post by McCreed on Feb 14, 2020 2:01:46 GMT -5
I’m not sure there’s a wrong way (short of just pouring it over the board) but I use a cotton bud and kind of “paint” it on a drop or two at a time. I let it sit for a little while (10-15 minutes, depending how quickly it soaks in) then wipe it off with a bit of clean cotton rag. I’ll repeat if needed.
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Post by DrKev on Feb 14, 2020 8:15:37 GMT -5
Ernie Ball Wonder Wipe Fretboard Conditioner. It's like the golden age of first class airline travel for your guitar. A moist towlette, impregnated with an orange oil-based blend deigned to deep clean your fingerboard and keep it smelling beautiful. Just wipe over the finger board to condition and remove grime and wipe off the excess oil with a paper towel. Keep in its wrapper and store in a small zip lock bag and one towel with last 10 or 12 guitars. I LOVE 'em!
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 14, 2020 8:48:26 GMT -5
windmill, you are on the right track. 10 or 12 drops is plenty for an entire bare rosewood or ebony fingerboard. More is not necessarily better because probably 90% of the oil stays on the cloth or paper towel and it goes into the trash.
I put a few drops on the fingerboard and then wipe it on with a fingertip wrapped in a layer of cotton terrycloth until all the wood is coated. I follow this up by rotating to a clean/dry portion of cloth and continuing, rotating to a clean portion of the cloth as it gets funky. Keep scrubbing with a clean section of cloth until the wood is completely dry; don't leave it wet with oil.
It's not good practice to wipe the oil on and let it soak in before wiping it dry. Don't allow it to marinate. This is especially important if the rosewood/ebony board has a finish along the edge where the fret ends are. If you allow the oil to soak in, it can cause the lacquer to lose its grip and the finish could flake off.
When oiling the fingerboard on an acoustic guitar it's good practice to treat the bridge if it's unfinished. The only caution here is on older guitars: do not allow the oil to puddle along the joint where the bridge meets the top. Oil can work its way in and loosen the glue bond. To prevent this, I apply a drop or two of oil directly to the cloth and then scrub away.
You can do the same with an unfinished bridge saddle/foot on an arch-top guitar. If the guitar has an unfinished wood trapeze tailpiece, hit that too.
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Post by Wrnchbndr on Feb 14, 2020 10:48:50 GMT -5
I just put it on wet and wipe it dry with a terry cloth washrag. I only ever apply it after an intense cleaning with naptha - typically after fretwork.
I have one client who absolutely dislikes any conditioner. He's a highly talented and experienced senior and I believe that the skin on his fingertips cannot get as good of a purchase on strings if there is any residue on the rosewood. He describes the feeling of the guitar being strung too tight. Clean away the condition with naptha and the problem solved. I think this is a good example of the left hand telling lies. Perception of the feel of the guitar isn't always correct.
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Post by McCreed on Feb 15, 2020 3:01:12 GMT -5
I'll stand corrected. Though I've never experienced any of those adverse effects mentioned. But I also wouldn't say I "marinate" the board either. Often times using my application method, by the time get 4 or 5 frets up with the cotton bud (Q-tip for you in US) the oil on the 1st & 2nd frets has lost its sheen. It's not like it puddled or pooled on there.
And like wrnchbndr, conditioning is always done after finger funk removal with naptha.
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Post by Pinetree on Feb 15, 2020 4:45:09 GMT -5
Squirt it in a line the length of the fretboard and wipe it off with a clean rag.
Professional Guitar Forum Experts will recoil in horror, but I've been doing it since the 70's.
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Post by LM on Feb 15, 2020 8:44:00 GMT -5
I put a drop on each board section between the frets and then rub it in.
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 15, 2020 20:34:28 GMT -5
I only put lemon oil on a finger board once. It killed my brand new strings. I slatheted it on a let it marinate. I know now what I did wrong.
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Post by larryguitar54 on Feb 16, 2020 0:13:12 GMT -5
I would be very conservative with it. I messed up a perfectly good Les Paul using lemon oil. The location up high on the fretboard where it joins the neck raised up absorbing that stuff and it took some work by a local guy to fix it. I don't do it anymore. just use the Dunlop fret cleaner now.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 16, 2020 12:40:57 GMT -5
"Professional Guitar Forum Experts will recoil in horror, but I've been doing it since the 70's."
I knew a player (old dude who played from the 50s-70s) who swore by WD40. He hosed down his rw-board Tele with it, even with the strings on. From what I could tell, there were no ill effects from it.
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Post by DrKev on Feb 17, 2020 5:47:12 GMT -5
I've used 3-n-1 oil. applied with a cotton swab, against the light to ensure the minimum but even coverage, then buff off with paper towels. Worked a treat.
The rule of thumb for all liquid oils is "minimum needed and no more".
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Post by McCreed on Feb 17, 2020 18:33:34 GMT -5
It's worth noting that "lemon oil" is a bit of a misnomer.
In most products being sold as lemon oil, the main component is actually mineral oil. It's basically "lemon scented" mineral oil.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 17, 2020 19:00:37 GMT -5
The same applies to tung oil, neatsfoot oil, Danish oil, etc. Most are not what they purport to be.
For many years I used Hawaiian Tropic Dark Tanning Oil. It's mostly mineral oil, and my guitars smelled like the beach.
A really good alternative to lemon oil is linseed oil. Boiled linseed oil air dries and hardens. It's the traditional finish for fine stocks on rifles and shotguns because it's weatherproof and easily repairable. Unboiled linseed oil does not harden, and it's probably better for a guitar fingerboard than the boiled type. You can find this stuff inexpensively in the paint department at most any hardware store. If you buy it in an art supply shop, it's usually twice the cost.
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Post by LesTele on Feb 17, 2020 19:16:48 GMT -5
After searching for fretboard conditioners and reading the ‘horror stories’ about lemon oil, I ended up using MusicNomads F-One Oil.
Been using it for a few years now and have no issues to report. Applied sparingly with a cloth.
No fretboards have detached, no strings have given up the ghost and it smells OK.
I like Peegoo’s Hawaiian Tropic solution. I’ve had a hankering to try the surf guitar thang for a while.
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Post by LM on Feb 17, 2020 19:25:21 GMT -5
No fretboards have detached, no strings have given up the ghost and it smells OK. But did you find human sacrifice and your dog and cat living together?
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Post by LesTele on Feb 17, 2020 20:01:55 GMT -5
But did you find human sacrifice and your dog and cat living together? Funny you should mention that. The dog and cat claim it’s purely platonic.
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Post by Leftee on Feb 18, 2020 14:19:34 GMT -5
After searching for fretboard conditioners and reading the ‘horror stories’ about lemon oil, I ended up using MusicNomads F-One Oil. Been using it for a few years now and have no issues to report. Applied sparingly with a cloth. No fretboards have detached, no strings have given up the ghost and it smells OK. I snagged some of that oil, as well, and it’s been great. I’ve been using it at least 2 years now. Maybe 3.
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Post by rdr on Feb 18, 2020 15:44:43 GMT -5
I've been using Howard Feed-n-Wax for awhile. Beeswax and orange oil. Works great and no worries!
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Post by LM on Feb 29, 2020 19:43:07 GMT -5
I recently refurbed my Carvin Strat and added a couple coats of Howard Feed-n-Wax to the tung oil finish while I had it apart. I decided to try it on the ebony fretboard. I used it sparingly and then polished it dry. I really like the results. The fretboard is very fast but it doesn't affect the strings like most oils. I may try it on some other guitars.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 29, 2020 20:01:13 GMT -5
I've been using Howard Feed-n-Wax for awhile. Beeswax and orange oil. Works great and no worries! Big fan of the stuff myself. Darkens the board nicely and seems to last.
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Post by LTB on Mar 4, 2020 23:13:59 GMT -5
"Professional Guitar Forum Experts will recoil in horror, but I've been doing it since the 70's." I knew a player (old dude who played from the 50s-70s) who swore by WD40. He hosed down his rw-board Tele with it, even with the strings on. From what I could tell, there were no ill effects from it. Well, I guess if "old farmers" in West Texas use it on their arthritic hands then I guess it is safe. I have not used it on Guitars but have to admit I tried it a few years ago on my Arthritic hands to alleviate the pain. It did work if I sprayed, left on for 20 minutes then spray again. Haven't thought about this until I read your post above but I realize I haven't had a problem in last 5 years after using WD-40 on few occasions for a year. I am not telling anyone to do what I did. I was desperate
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