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Post by mountie on Sept 10, 2023 6:49:22 GMT -5
I've looked extensively, and can't seem to find any info on replacing a trapeze tailpiece with a Bigsby. The instrument in question is an Aria ProII TA70 . Mine is sunburst,with the pickup selector on the upper bout. I'm thinking a Bigsby clone unit, but not sure of which model would be the proper fit. Thanks!
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Post by RogerD on Sept 10, 2023 9:27:47 GMT -5
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Post by Cal-Woody on Sept 10, 2023 17:16:50 GMT -5
That's pretty sweet! I would be interested in something like that for my Epiphone 335. I use it mostly for blues and some rock, but for the most part, it performs well and was impressed with it. I had looked at the Vibremate unit but this one is a lot simpler to use and install. Cool piece, thanks for sharing. Woody
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Sept 10, 2023 18:36:36 GMT -5
Quick Google search says either the B7 or B70.... not sure what the difference is, but B70 looks to be cheaper. I've never noticed a difference between the expensive Bigsbies and the "cheaper" versions like you see on the import Gretsches.
Since you don't have stop bar holes to deal with, this should be one of the easier ones to deal with. It won't be a straight screw in, the back will have to be installed, but it isn't an advanced skill set kind of job.
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Post by 009 on Sept 11, 2023 7:19:01 GMT -5
The zero in a Bigsby model number indicates a licensed version. PS: There are small size differences between the two models (as well as construction differences). Most critical, I'd think, is the location of the strap pin hole location -- it would be nice to drop the Bigsby in without drilling another hole in the guitar body. There is also a B700 model. Too much information for me to digest right now, but here's the link for the official Bigsby website. Check out the "Vibratos" drop-down menu, and investigate their Kalamazoo and Lightening versions. Each specific vibrato has link = "Reproduction Blueprint - View Detail." www.bigsby.com/
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Post by mountie on Sept 13, 2023 5:29:36 GMT -5
Thanks to all!
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Post by ninworks on Sept 13, 2023 8:18:17 GMT -5
I have never understood the Bigsby connection. Every guitar I have ever played that had one wouldn't stay in tune. Maybe I just don't know how to operate one to keep the tuning correct. It must be the sound. I freakin hate them. I'll probably get banned from the site now after this and my Rolling Stones post so I might as well drive the last nail. I never liked Clapton or Knopler either. At least Knopler can play his butt off. I just don't like his style. It's been nice knowing you guys.
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Post by Leftee on Sept 13, 2023 9:02:45 GMT -5
I’m not a Stones fan.
There! I said it! 😂
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Post by RogerD on Sept 14, 2023 10:32:59 GMT -5
I've looked extensively, and can't seem to find any info on replacing a trapeze tailpiece with a Bigsby. The instrument in question is an Aria ProII TA70 . Mine is sunburst,with the pickup selector on the upper bout. I'm thinking a Bigsby clone unit, but not sure of which model would be the proper fit. Thanks!
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Post by RogerD on Sept 14, 2023 10:37:05 GMT -5
Check out the posted link for this item. It's similar to the Bigsby that is on my Gretsch 6120T Brian Setzer model which is a B6CGH that I do not find available in the aftermarket. www.bigsby.com/products/vibratos/b60/
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Sept 16, 2023 11:13:36 GMT -5
I have never understood the Bigsby connection. Every guitar I have ever played that had one wouldn't stay in tune. Maybe I just don't know how to operate one to keep the tuning correct. It must be the sound. I freakin hate them. I'll probably get banned from the site now after this and my Rolling Stones post so I might as well drive the last nail. I never liked Clapton or Knopler either. At least Knopler can play his butt off. I just don't like his style. It's been nice knowing you guys. I have one on my Gretsch electromatic and I like it, but wouldn't put one on a Gibson. I don't like what it does to tone, it sort of immediately makes it a western swing instrument. Great on some instruments, an odd choice for others. Dropping one on an SG or a Les Paul feels a bit like ketchup on a steak. To each their own.
The OP has an Aria, so I'm assuming he's looking to give an otherwise bland guitar that is not his #1 some personality or it has become his experimentation instrument, so it makes some sense.
The stars have to be aligned right for the tuning to work. The break angle over the bridge has to be right, sometimes you need to swap the bridge, the nut is going to be much trickier since you're dealing with 3x3 pegheads that struggle with tuning even without a trem. Their saving grace is that the range of motion is limited, so you're not going to dive bomb it to really mess up the tuning. Ideally, there'd be a model where the roller bar can be set up at different heights; on some models, the angle with the bar is way too sharp and without is way too shallow. This is a bigger issue with the screw on type that you see on SGs, LPs and Teles, though.
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Post by LTB on Apr 1, 2024 15:03:07 GMT -5
I put a modification on my Bigsby B7 that helped stay in tune tremendously. I will try and find out where to get it.
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Post by LTB on Apr 1, 2024 20:48:42 GMT -5
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Post by LTB on Apr 1, 2024 21:00:20 GMT -5
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Post by LTB on Apr 1, 2024 21:13:02 GMT -5
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Post by insanecooker on May 13, 2024 7:19:46 GMT -5
Ideally, there'd be a model where the roller bar can be set up at different heights; on some models, the angle with the bar is way too sharp and without is way too shallow. This is a bigger issue with the screw on type that you see on SGs, LPs and Teles, though. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what angle you're referring to, but I'd think the adjustability of a TOM bridge would help? On a Gibson I've never had this issue, but with a Tele the best setup required using a full neck cavity shim to allow for adjustability of TOM bridge height. The best Bigsby setup I had was from an original USA Reverend, and the ingredients were a roller bridge, Sperzels (which make stringing a breeze), and replacing the small spring in the Bigsby with rigid nylon spacers. This means that any motion of the arm already starts vibrato, whereas with most Bigsbys there is a dead zone first. I have a Luther Dickinson 335 that has a Bigsby from the factory and it stays perfectly in tune. The only guitar I struggled a bit to get good tuning stability from with a Bigsby was with a Tele, until I replicated the Reverend setup I described above.
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