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Post by slacker 🐨 on Feb 27, 2024 11:16:37 GMT -5
My daughter (no pics) is moving from KC to Olympia WA next fall. He initial plan is to load up a Uhaul and drive all her stuff up there.
I was going to go along and ran the route on Google Maps. It's a 28 hour drive. That got me thinking that maybe doing a Pod would be a better option. She can pack and load her own stuff, but have them pick it up and drive it up there.
I was curious what the difference in cost would be.
Anyone ever used them?
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 27, 2024 11:32:16 GMT -5
Yep, used PODs to move from Florida to Texas in early 2020. It was much cheaper than conventional moving methods and despite my fears went off without a hitch. I did transport all of my guitars by car in 2 planned trips in advance. I'd imagine that like everything else it's more expensive these days.
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Post by insanecooker on Feb 27, 2024 14:02:53 GMT -5
As usual with these things, the main issue normally is what to do in the unattended parts of the journey if you were doing Uhaul yourself (theft is a real issue if you need to sleep somewhere with it).
I'd be more comfortable either with a journey that I can do in a single drive or have a moving company that has insurance for it. To me the insurance part is how I would decide on Pods vs. something else.
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Post by rdr on Feb 27, 2024 15:10:36 GMT -5
I used one to transport stuff from my folks' place in Tucson to Virginia. It was very convenient but seemed kinda expensive. The ability to schedule the delivery was nice.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Feb 27, 2024 15:27:40 GMT -5
Yeah, the drive is 28 hours....there will be 2 of us driving (if we did UHaul), but I really don't want to do that straight thorugh....
So it's an issue parking a UHaul overnight? People cut the lock and rip you off?
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 27, 2024 15:39:39 GMT -5
I cannot recall but I'm sure the contents were insured in my move. They were impressively organized with pickup and delivery. They need to know driveway measurements of pickup and delivery as well as access info to the communities. With the amount of contents in my home I'd use them again unless cost became an issue. I was not impressed with the quality of the movers assigned by United to move me from Michigan to Florida in 2013. With the PODs we knew what and how to handle/package/protect each item. Fortunately no appliances were moved, so for the most part didn't require any hired muscle.
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 27, 2024 16:44:47 GMT -5
We checked into it last fall and the price was stupidly high compared to driving uhaul. We have never had a theft issue, 6 or so moves with uhaul.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Feb 27, 2024 16:49:00 GMT -5
We checked into it last and the price was stupidly high. Yeah, looks like they'd want about $4500 for a small box. There's another company called U-pack that does the same thing, but quite a bit cheaper. They quoted about $2300, which isn't a whole lot more than renting the UHaul truck. By the time we paid for mileage/gas on the truck, I think we'd be spending more than the U-Pack price. The concerns about the truck being robbed overnight on a drive there are still an issue as she lives in downtown Kansas City. If we got a Pod or U-Pack box, it would be sitting out overnight there.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 27, 2024 16:50:58 GMT -5
Ooh yeah, prices have gone up substantially.
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Post by Lesterstrat on Feb 27, 2024 17:24:29 GMT -5
Most of the LTL (less than truck load) trucking companies offer a similar service. Our neighbor in Florida used ABF. These pack yourself outfits will be cheaper than a moving company, but I can't imagine they'd a lot cheaper because the only difference between them and movers is the labor. The fuel, fuel surcharge, etc... is the same. The UHaul truck may seem to be the cheapest, until you start paying the fuel bill every time you have to fill it up. I would want to know the range on one and average mpg and then check fuel prices in areas you'll likely be fueling (based on the range).
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 27, 2024 18:10:49 GMT -5
I went through my files and it appears we paid just under $3900 for two 16' PODs, moved from central Florida to Houston area. This was early 2020, so right at the beginning of the pandemic.
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Post by HeavyDuty on Feb 27, 2024 18:14:57 GMT -5
I looked at the various pod services both when I moved IL to NH in 2020, and again NH to TX in 2022. They just weren’t cost effective.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Feb 28, 2024 10:27:38 GMT -5
Doing more research, it looks like the UHaul version of pods might be the best bet. It's not much more than the cost of a truck rental alone...after adding fuel costs I'm pretty sure the truck would be more expensive.
For her, there's also the cost to fly whomever drives a truck back home too, since she has to drive her car.
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Post by Jim D. on Feb 28, 2024 11:11:51 GMT -5
My sister and I talked my parents into moving from the CA bay area to a retirement villa community in St. Louis. The distance is about 2,200 miles. We flew back and forth to CA many times to prepare the house for sale and to determine how much furniture could be accommodated in a two bath, two bedroom condo type unit. We used PODs after determining their largest unit would work. PODs recommended an independent local packing company. The POD was delivered within 10 minutes of the agreed upon time, and the next day four packers showed up, again on time. They had a large box truck with every size box imaginable and a complete inventory of packing materials. Every piece of furniture was wrapped in padded paper, then with brand new moving quilts, then wrapped in clear, stretch wrap. Artwork was treated the same way with individual boxes for each piece. Items were packed well enough for shipment across the world. The container arrived in St. Louis when stated and was stored at their secure facility here until we were ready for delivery-again right on time. We had it for 24 hours so we could unpack ourselves here. There was zero damage to the items. They did not want return of countless moving quilts, ratchet straps and the like. We divided these up among family. It was not cheap, but it was absolutely flawless. Three days after the packers finished in CA, I received an email stating the actual cost of labor and materials was about $300 less than the estimate, and this was already credited to the credit card we used. Given the amount of trips back and forth to CA, and the additional trips this eliminated, it was worth every penny. I could not speak more highly of our experience.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Feb 28, 2024 13:55:03 GMT -5
Jim, that sounds like an amazing experience...clearly aided by your prep I suspect. I really don't know what my daughter's tolerance is for cost or how much stuff she has that isn't el-cheapo target grade stuff.
I've always been leery about having someone else pack my stuff as my younger sister (no pics) has moved a fair number of times and used a number if different moving companies. She's had stuff "disappear" literally every single time. The amazing part is that it's always nice, expensive stuff (like an heirloom fur coat and jewelry) that came up missing.
Last time I moved, I packed everything but the stuff that wasn't very interesting: garage stuff, TV's, lamps, etc. All valuables were either packed and moved by us or just packed by us. This was viable because we were only moving 40 miles. We made several dozen trips hauling the important stuff ourselves (no way a moving company was getting anywhere near my guitars and amps, for example).
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Post by Jim D. on Feb 28, 2024 15:20:40 GMT -5
Slacker, our circumstances were very unique. My folks have some high value items including a few hundred K in art. They are insured by Chubb, and such pieces are on an agreed value rider policy. We specifically insured the transport which included these items. We had to produce proof of full insurance and bonding from the packers (no problem) and the high value pieces were listed and backed up by photos. This document was signed by the packing company and boxes were numbered and cross referenced. PODs had to agree the container would be stored inside a building both in CA and MO until we signed at final delivery. They did all this and produced a document to the insurance company regarding this. Now the whole process was about 8K with the packing. No way would we have a moving company, who often hire temporary help, haul a partial (mixed) load across the country. Further, Chubb would not issue transport insurance under those circumstances. We put a GPS tracker on the container as well. Again, very special circumstances here. We were treated in a manner like those specialty auto transport companies that move super high dollar vehicles around the country in closed trailers. Sometimes the cost of moving fairly generic possessions is more than they are actually worth. Sometimes not. My neighbor had his Steinway concert D grand piano shipped to his new place in Iowa. A specialty mover came for that single piece. They custom crated it after removing the legs. I can't imagine what that cost, but a new one is over 200K !
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Post by gbfun on Feb 29, 2024 4:48:26 GMT -5
Moving into my neighborhood eh ? Does she play an instrument or sing ? (just kidding) Crime rate isn't as high in Olympia compared to Seattle or Tacoma, but it happens. I've seen lots of Pods locally. I've also noticed a rise in wrong way drivers and road rage shooters over the last 5 years. And the cops can't pursue robbery suspects(or much else). No real gangs like LA but occasional homeless issues and druggies. Coming from a big city, Olympia might be a little safer for her. Still got a porch pirate or two ! I would keep a steely eye on a Pod or a Uhaul. Punks like to use stolen trucks to drag off ATMs or crash into Marijuana stores pretty routinely. So, there's probably a 99% chance she'll be ok if she's careful. If she's driving a Kia or Hyundai, she might want to get another car in Washington State. I'm old and probably paranoid though. Hope that helps...
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Post by gbfun on Feb 29, 2024 5:00:45 GMT -5
If she's moving to downtown Olympia, that would not be safe.
It's barely safe in the day and not safe at all at night.
Outside the downtown area is relatively ok...but this is post pandemic times of course.
Caution advised.
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Post by ninworks on Feb 29, 2024 5:21:36 GMT -5
We used PODS back in 2015 when we moved from Phoenix to Tennessee. It was a pleasant experience and would use them again. We had 2 of them filled floor to ceiling all the way to the door. The only problem we had was some bad weather delays and it took nearly a week to get them delivered to us on arrival, but that wasn't their fault. A huge ice storm that covered multiple states halted OTR commerce for about a week. We were stuck in a hotel in Texas for 3 days due to icy roads. It took us 6 days to get there instead of the three we had planned.
I pulled a U-Haul trailer behind my truck that had our bed, clothes, and personal items in it so we weren't without those things when we arrived. I had my Hammond organ 3 Leslies and all my guitar amps in that trailer as well. There's no way I would put those in the PODS. I also transported all my guitars in our Tahoe myself. My wife was driving it. It was a pain moving about 15 guitars in and out of hotel rooms every day for 4 days but I wasn't putting them in a non climate controlled environment or into something they could get damaged in. It turns out that was a smart move due to the icy temps. Our German Shepherd and Alaskan Malamute stayed in the hotel room when we went out to a restaurant so the guitars were safe. I did a real good job of securing everything in place inside the PODS but moving guitars in them 1800 miles was too much of a risk if the load shifted.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Feb 29, 2024 13:51:34 GMT -5
Moving into my neighborhood eh ? Does she play an instrument or sing ? (just kidding) Crime rate isn't as high in Olympia compared to Seattle or Tacoma, but it happens. I've seen lots of Pods locally. I've also noticed a rise in wrong way drivers and road rage shooters over the last 5 years. And the cops can't pursue robbery suspects(or much else). No real gangs like LA but occasional homeless issues and druggies. Coming from a big city, Olympia might be a little safer for her. Still got a porch pirate or two ! I would keep a steely eye on a Pod or a Uhaul. Punks like to use stolen trucks to drag off ATMs or crash into Marijuana stores pretty routinely. So, there's probably a 99% chance she'll be ok if she's careful. If she's driving a Kia or Hyundai, she might want to get another car in Washington State. I'm old and probably paranoid though. Hope that helps... What's the deal on Kia?
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Post by Leftee on Feb 29, 2024 14:19:04 GMT -5
They're an easy target for car thieves.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Feb 29, 2024 20:36:14 GMT -5
They're an easy target for car thieves. If you're talking about the thumb drive vulnerability....that's only on older models without the recall service.
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Post by gbfun on Mar 1, 2024 15:58:16 GMT -5
It seems like a Kia is used in some news reported crime in Western Washington about once or twice a month ! Kia is providing free steering locks to our Olympia Police station as per last month. Supposedly Kia fixed this issue in 2022 models but sold a LOT of vulnerable cars in Washington prior. It's a bit confusing which cars are vulnerable but apparently not to car thieves...which we seem to have a LOT of. And pot shops might as well paint a big X on themselves with a picture of a Kia following an arrow to the X. They get smashed routinely. So many Kias and Hyundais are being stolen that some cities are attempting to sue the car manufacturers for the costs of handling them. Some insurers have significantly jacked up rates on the vulnerable Kias and Hyundais, if they'll insure them at all. Hence, my comment.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Mar 1, 2024 16:53:00 GMT -5
It seems like a Kia is used in some news reported crime in Western Washington about once or twice a month ! Kia is providing free steering locks to our Olympia Police station as per last month. Supposedly Kia fixed this issue in 2022 models but sold a LOT of vulnerable cars in Washington prior. It's a bit confusing which cars are vulnerable but apparently not to car thieves...which we seem to have a LOT of. And pot shops might as well paint a big X on themselves with a picture of a Kia following an arrow to the X. They get smashed routinely. So many Kias and Hyundais are being stolen that some cities are attempting to sue the car manufacturers for the costs of handling them. Some insurers have significantly jacked up rates on the vulnerable Kias and Hyundais, if they'll insure them at all. Hence, my comment. Yeah, we knew about that. My daughter does drive a Kia and parks it outside in downtown KC ....has for a couple years.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 2, 2024 12:09:02 GMT -5
I've moved cross country several times. Some things I've found:
Pods can take a long time. Check the time estimates.
Hiring a mover was the cheapest option each time. Yes, the cheapest. My guess is because I don't have a lot of stuff. An agent comes and looks at what you have and you get an estimate from that. No wasted space for the truck because it is on there with other people's stuff, and I was only paying for the space I was using. This may have been because I was often moving in/out of Vermont, which isn't really on the way to/from anywhere and costs get weird. Not going to say it will be cheaper for anyone else, but it could be worth checking.
Driving a uhaul yourself seems fine when you're picturing flat, straight highway. Most longer trips in the continental US will eventually involve some mountain passes, busy metro areas, and other things. Not everyone wants to deal with that. "Next fall" could be late enough for some random rocky mountain snow storms. If your daughter hasn't driven any of these routes, it may be worth showing her what some of these passes/steep grades in different areas look like. I know a few of the routes through there, and I don't think you'll find a way that won't have anything tricky. Or, maybe she knows them better than me and could do it all in reverse.
Packing yourself isn't too hard, but there is a bit of an art to it to know how to do it so stuff doesn't break. Not just the boxes - that part is easy - but arranging the boxes within the container. Make fun of professional movers all you want, they know how to keep stuff tight in there. If someone has that skill, great. If you don't think they could ship a pillow without it shattering, consider some pros. Stuff will bounce around in pods if not packed right.
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Post by chucksmi on Mar 5, 2024 9:28:34 GMT -5
Yeah, but then don't you need to deal with The Pod People?
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Post by gbfun on Mar 8, 2024 7:46:24 GMT -5
Ha. Someone around Seattle just used a Uhaul truck to bash into a store and try to steal an ATM this week. They are probably looking for another one to finish the job...
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Post by michael on Mar 9, 2024 10:18:00 GMT -5
they are not available here but it gave me the idea of hiring a neighbor truck company to set a trailer in my drive and let me load it, then they haul it ti the new location and park it for a while to let me unload. have only asked them if they'd do it, havent discussed prices... still have not found a place that suits us both ...
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