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Post by thumbpicker on Sept 27, 2020 16:45:55 GMT -5
Played out last night in a barn. Pretty big space so I decided to take the old Twin Reverb out for a spin. Well she sounded Big,Thick and Pretty when asked to but by the time we were done I discovered again why standing with a heavy Les Paul on one shoulder for hours then toting the beast over to the truck and loading it was a younger mans game!
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Post by Vibroluxer on Sept 27, 2020 18:43:51 GMT -5
I think there's a Far Side in there someplace.
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Post by pcalu on Sept 27, 2020 19:38:01 GMT -5
Once in a while I'll take the TR out to a gig. I use a Heavy-duty luggage carrier. Seems to work rather well for me. Not a huge difference in Lbs between the HRDeville and a TR and I see a lot of guys gig a HRDeville.
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Post by LTB on Sept 27, 2020 21:11:14 GMT -5
Played out last night in a barn. Pretty big space so I decided to take the old Twin Reverb out for a spin. Well she sounded Big,Thick and Pretty when asked to but by the time we were done I discovered again why standing with a heavy Les Paul on one shoulder for hours then toting the beast over to the truck and loading it was a younger mans game! In 2005 I repaired a friend's 1965 Twin and the chassis by itself was incredibly heavy lifting it up to the bench from 2ft off the floor. I really do know your pain even to this day. Hope you are able to alleviate some of that weight  |
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Post by thumbpicker on Sept 28, 2020 13:19:01 GMT -5
Yep I think carrying wasn't so bad but that lift up into the back of the truck was all I wanted. Oh yeah the steps aren't much fun either.
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Post by tahitijack on Sept 28, 2020 15:10:07 GMT -5
But wait...new Fender Twin Reverb Tone Master weights in at 33 lbs. Many reviews from pros to part timers indicate the new amp is pretty good and often pretty good is good enough.
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Post by hushnel on Sept 29, 2020 8:58:58 GMT -5
I’ve been moving in the opposite direction. When I started many years ago I used the Fender Bassman. Huge/heavy and around 50 watts. Gigs with stairs and other challenging venues. Moved down to a Bassman 4/10 still rather bulky.
In the mid 80s I switched to SWR, the David Eden 4 by 10 is pretty heavy. I still have this amp and cabinet. I’ve been using it at the rehearsal space. It’s rarely moved.
My newest rig is the GenzBenz Shuttle 9.0 4 lb, 500W/8 Ohms; 900W/4 Ohms. I usually use the 38 lbs SWR golight jr. Neodymium 2 X 10 at 8 Ohms, if I need the available 900 watts I’ll add the 15” Hartke.
Even my basses are getting lighter, the old Fender P bass Special is a beast. Mostly I’m using the Guild Starfire now a days.
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Post by Vibroluxer on Sept 29, 2020 11:50:52 GMT -5
Those Guilds are nice.
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Post by twangmeister on Sept 29, 2020 19:55:22 GMT -5
Got rid of my Twin in 1972 as it was a heavy sucker. Hated yanking it in and out of my Beetle for those one night gigs.
Five years later I joined the Army. That is what I learned what "heavy" really is.
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Post by thumbpicker on Sept 29, 2020 20:18:51 GMT -5
Yep! Can't say as I needed the darned thing anyway. But it do have tone in spades. I was listening to some videos today that a friend of mine did the other night. It was so clear and sparkly that I realized why the backache could be worth the trouble.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Sept 29, 2020 23:54:22 GMT -5
Heavy gear is no longer in my house.
The amp I drag around these days is a Quilter 1x8 combo (2 channels, 100 watts each). It gets ear-bleeding loud when required, it sounds great, it's smaller than a Princeton, and it weighs 25 lbs.
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Post by Opie on Sept 30, 2020 6:27:40 GMT -5
Quilter fan as well,Micropro 8.
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Post by LTB on Sept 30, 2020 16:16:07 GMT -5
Heavy gear is no longer in my house. It gets ear-bleeding loud when required Well, that is what I need to quell my constant Tinnitus and my ear infection...  |
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Post by 6l6 on Oct 2, 2020 17:54:01 GMT -5
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Post by pcalu on Oct 3, 2020 7:20:16 GMT -5
Yep! Can't say as I needed the darned thing anyway. But it do have tone in spades. I was listening to some videos today that a friend of mine did the other night. It was so clear and sparkly that I realized why the backache could be worth the trouble. Nailed it... That's the sole reason why I still take my TR out. I got listening to a live recording "outdoors" no less of myself playing through my Twin.. Very few amps mimic a properly serviced, EQ dialed in Twin Reverb live. Under a beer tent or on a park auditorium stage, I'm not attached to the amp by the hip. The headroom and the warmth... at a decent stage volume where I can hear myself as well as what is going on above the din of the crowd.. The Twin Reverb is stellar for Country, Blues and Jazz. It is very hard to beat in a combo live. Smaller venues yea I take a smaller amp if I need to... sometimes I don't. I just like to play it, enjoy the sound and feel.
Sure one can go out and get a small head unit w/ high watts and run a 1x12 cab. For the genre of music I play, I would have to experiment and chase a lot of tone to find the same vibe and feel. Then when it's all said and done, how many lbs would I have shaved? 10-20lbs? I'm healthy and not lazy... For myself, 10-20lbs isn't all that to complain about. If I had a back issue, yes my view would be different, but I don't.
People cite modern P.A. systems "one doesn't need those big amps anymore" I play a lot of outdoor venues. The smaller top of the line P.A. systems that can handle those venues are quite expensive. (By handle I mean ... A) a decent sound man with a decent P.A. system can make or break your stage volume... where you can hear everything that is going on or... You can't hear squat, when that happens, bad mates play louder in an attempt to hear themselves and then it's off to the races. Never mind what is getting out to the audience. With that Twin Reverb when playing outdoors or a large indoor venue, I don't have to rely on anything. It also sounds good at any level (but best up around 4-5 "a live stage volume")
Do I need my Twin Reverb? No.. but looking at it as a tool to approach a job, it has a lot more pros vs cons
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Post by jazzguy on Oct 6, 2020 12:49:31 GMT -5
Once in a while I'll take the TR out to a gig. I use a Heavy-duty luggage carrier. Seems to work rather well for me. Not a huge difference in Lbs between the HRDeville and a TR and I see a lot of guys gig a HRDeville. Still use my '67 Twin on all my gigs and a heavy duty cart is a must. I use a Remin Kart A Bag 800, it has a 300lb capacity, bungee cords and folds up to a very small size for storage. The only lifting I do is in and out of the car trunk. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. |
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Post by Peppy on Oct 9, 2020 20:06:51 GMT -5
I sell guitar amps at the largest music store in my state. Despite booming sales, heavy tube amps just don't move...and they just don't move.
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Post by guildx700 on Oct 11, 2020 0:32:51 GMT -5
As if it wasn't heavy enough, I put EV SRO's in my 1982 135 Watt Twin Reverb. That thing is silly heavy and silly loud...but holy hell does it sing when dimed. For those that have not seen an SRO......  I had burnt the stock Fender speakers out the first 2 hours of use, I had a big stockpile of EV stuff back then so I tossed the SRO's in. I had some of the venerable T 350 tweeter horns at one time too (those things weighed over 10 pounds!):  Hell...hold on....that random pic I just grabbed off the net was from my E Bay sale pic of my T350's when I sold them several years back for $125 each! OUCH... this guy resold em for $575. Guess I should've held onto them.  |
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Post by budg on Oct 11, 2020 13:22:36 GMT -5
I sell guitar amps at the largest music store in my state. Despite booming sales, heavy tube amps just don't move...and they just don't move. I see used Twins in the “used” section every time I visit my local GC . BTW, Sweetwater offers up a neo version that weighs only 56 lbs. Looks like they have Celestion Creamback neos in there. Seems like a good idea. I’ve got a neo lil Texas in my 65 drri and it weighs a little bit heavier than a Princeton. Sounds great too. |
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Post by Peppy on Oct 11, 2020 21:53:03 GMT -5
I sell guitar amps at the largest music store in my state. Despite booming sales, heavy tube amps just don't move...and they just don't move. I see used Twins in the “used” section every time I visit my local GC . Very cool. Choice is a good thing. Again though, not selling in our huge store. (Overall metro population we serve is 5,000,000.) As to GC, the one 5 miles away is closed for now. I believe the others in the metro area are basically empty. We though, are stocked and selling...continually. Just not heavy tube amps. 😁 |
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Post by guildx700 on Oct 11, 2020 22:26:23 GMT -5
I used to have this silly huge Peavy stack, now sure what model, it had 6 X 12"'s in it and the head was huge too, it was close to a self contained PA, but it did sound great with guitars.
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