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Post by walshb 🦒 on Jan 22, 2020 10:30:17 GMT -5
Get hurt, lose your job. Of course, there's two sides to every story.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 22, 2020 11:11:38 GMT -5
Get hurt, lose your job. Of course, there's two sides to every story.
Rolling StoneAnd, as they say, there's also the truth. |
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Post by jhawkr on Jan 22, 2020 12:29:43 GMT -5
Joey could have used AFLAC!  |
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Post by Stratluvr on Jan 22, 2020 12:39:35 GMT -5
Its very similar to what happened to Bill Ward of Black Sabbath.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 22, 2020 12:42:24 GMT -5
Everything I ever remember reading about Aerosmith's band dynamic is that its totally a weird relationship between the members. This is in keeping with that.
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Post by LM on Jan 22, 2020 12:53:20 GMT -5
A 70 year-old drummer is suing for being fired from a band that he'd been in for 50 years. Think about it!
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 22, 2020 13:15:14 GMT -5
A 70 year-old drummer is suing for being fired from a band that he'd been in for 50 years. Think about it! Judge rules against him, and in his decision, he states "well, he is ONLY a drummer..." |
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jan 22, 2020 15:05:18 GMT -5
"Joey Kramer is our brother; his wellbeing is of paramount importance to us," the band said. "However he has not been emotionally and physically able to perform with the band, by his own admission, for the last six months. We have missed him and have encouraged him to rejoin us to play many times but apparently he has not felt ready to do so."
If that is the truth, then it sounds like an open and shut case to me. Being in a band is like being any other contractor: show up for work and be able to work, or be replaced. There are major-dollar commitments made weeks, months, and sometimes years ahead, and you have to be able to perform.
This isn't five guys playing bars in their home town. It's a corporation.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 22, 2020 15:51:45 GMT -5
"Joey Kramer is our brother; his wellbeing is of paramount importance to us," the band said. "However he has not been emotionally and physically able to perform with the band, by his own admission, for the last six months. We have missed him and have encouraged him to rejoin us to play many times but apparently he has not felt ready to do so." If that is the truth, then it sounds like an open and shut case to me. Being in a band is like being any other contractor: show up for work and be able to work, or be replaced. There are major-dollar commitments made weeks, months, and sometimes years ahead, and you have to be able to perform. This isn't five guys playing bars in their home town. It's a corporation. You are 100% right, assuming that their statement is true and his isn't. As I mentioned, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. |
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Post by Sérgio on Jan 22, 2020 16:39:57 GMT -5
Everything I ever remember reading about Aerosmith's band dynamic is that its totally a weird relationship between the members. This is in keeping with that. This reminds me of my own band |
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 22, 2020 18:04:19 GMT -5
Everything I ever remember reading about Aerosmith's band dynamic is that its totally a weird relationship between the members. This is in keeping with that. This reminds me of my own band And every band ever. |
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Post by rickyguitar on Jan 22, 2020 18:10:07 GMT -5
Wish I could sue Aerosmith, be a waste to sue my bands....dammit.
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Post by Leftee on Jan 22, 2020 18:11:56 GMT -5
A 70 year-old drummer is suing for being fired from a band that he'd been in for 50 years. Think about it! Judge rules against him, and in his decision, he states "well, he is ONLY a drummer..." So, whose couch does he crash in now? |
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Post by Sharkie on Jan 23, 2020 8:32:59 GMT -5
"Joey Kramer is our brother; his wellbeing is of paramount importance to us," the band said. "However he has not been emotionally and physically able to perform with the band, by his own admission, for the last six months. We have missed him and have encouraged him to rejoin us to play many times but apparently he has not felt ready to do so." If that is the truth, then it sounds like an open and shut case to me. Being in a band is like being any other contractor: show up for work and be able to work, or be replaced. There are major-dollar commitments made weeks, months, and sometimes years ahead, and you have to be able to perform. This isn't five guys playing bars in their home town. It's a corporation. I concur Peegoo. Apparently his last “audition” didn’t make the cut though. It will be interesting to see how far this case goes. I could see him bringing an expert witness to court to say that his audition was acceptable by drumming standards. |
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Post by archiestone on Jan 24, 2020 22:46:23 GMT -5
Ugh -- pretty ugly. I guess I see the band's point but man...
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Post by walshb 🦒 on Jan 25, 2020 6:11:47 GMT -5
A video of him being turned away from a practice for the upcoming Grammy Awards. Joey handled it better than I probably would have. Video |
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Post by K4 on Jan 25, 2020 7:32:21 GMT -5
Well I won't be watching the Grammies either way, but Aerosmith without Joey is like Zeppelin without John.
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Post by matryx81 on Jan 25, 2020 11:36:37 GMT -5
After seeing that video, I would be surprised to see them perform together again.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jan 25, 2020 12:24:38 GMT -5
Near the end of the original Deep Purple, each member had his own manager.
Sort of like a couple that cannot stand each other and they get their own lawyers in preparation to divide up the house.
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Post by davey28 on Jan 25, 2020 18:49:25 GMT -5
Jeez, Tyler and Perry looked like they are ready to embark on a pirate ship.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 25, 2020 20:08:30 GMT -5
A video of him being turned away from a practice for the upcoming Grammy Awards. Joey handled it better than I probably would have. VideoHe knew it was going to happen, that’s why he had someone recording it. He looks right in the camera and asks the guy if he “got it”. That’s why he handled it so well, he was making a recording to show they were the bad guys. |
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Post by LM on Jan 25, 2020 20:57:22 GMT -5
Mike, you speak as if you have experience with these situations.  |
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 25, 2020 21:34:54 GMT -5
Mike, you speak as if you have experience with these situations. I’ve had clients who have been on the receiving end lol. |
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Post by K4 on Jan 26, 2020 4:35:47 GMT -5
In the first link the band said "He is welcome to stand on stage with us and accept the award". Then they bar his entry?
Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 26, 2020 18:01:20 GMT -5
In the first link the band said "He is welcome to stand on stage with us and accept the award". Then they bar his entry? Seems pretty cut and dry to me. If I understand correctly, it was a rehearsal they barred him from. He was still welcome to appear at the actual show (but not to play). |
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Post by K4 on Jan 26, 2020 18:32:10 GMT -5
In the first link the band said "He is welcome to stand on stage with us and accept the award". Then they bar his entry? Seems pretty cut and dry to me. If I understand correctly, it was a rehearsal they barred him from. He was still welcome to appear at the actual show (but not to play). That does change my thinking.
Since I don't watch the Grammy's, was he on stage with the band? Have the grammy's been aired?
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Post by Sharkie on Jan 26, 2020 22:25:34 GMT -5
If I understand correctly, it was a rehearsal they barred him from. He was still welcome to appear at the actual show (but not to play). That does change my thinking.
Since I don't watch the Grammy's, was he on stage with the band? Have the grammy's been aired?
Just watched them perform. He wasn’t on stage and they were less than stellar IMO. |
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