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Post by ninworks on Aug 2, 2022 13:48:09 GMT -5
I got the ones repaired that the pup chewed through and made more progress on re-wiring my recording rack. I got as far as I could go before having to start taking things apart and reconfiguring stuff. I need to make some modifications to my microphone-XLR-Input panel on the front of the rack. It keeps me from having to get behind the rack to plug a mic into a preamp. I'm adding 5 more jacks to bring up in the patch bays. I only need 3 at present but since I have to take stuff apart already, and already have the jacks, I figured that I may as well go ahead and mount them and get the cables made for it. I'm sure I'll be expanding or changing things around again at some point so they'll probably get used for something eventually. These photos are how it is now. I'll be adding 5 more jacks to it. i.postimg.cc/vT8PNVKz/Preamp-Inputs.jpgi.postimg.cc/MGRrMxRy/Rack-XLR-Panel.jpg
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Post by ninworks on Aug 2, 2022 17:52:42 GMT -5
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Post by gbfun on Aug 5, 2022 3:34:38 GMT -5
Hey ninworks, I got a question for you since you're well acquainted with studio equipment...and most likely compressors. The TV geniuses keep making movies and TV shows where music and action scenes are double LOUD and the dialog is really soft...almost a whisper. Me and my buddies keep having to change the volume up or down on the TV all the time and I wondered, why not try a stereo compressor to even up the volumes ? Do you think this would work on a TV ? My guess is it won't or it would be an option on the TV already, after all, the volume changes are pretty big and must annoy a lot of people ! But maybe ? I only have one stereo compressor to try and I thought I'd ask you before unhooking everything to run the experiment at a buddy's house. Hmm...maybe I have more stereo compressors...in a couple of floorboards too. Those would be easier to test...but surely they aren't strong enough ! Well, it helps to write stuff down sometimes. Anyway, will any stereo compressor do the job or does it require a pro-level compressor ? Or some other device to tame the overly wide dynamic range. And yes, that's some pretty neat work there !
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Post by ninworks on Aug 5, 2022 4:59:19 GMT -5
A stereo compressor would help to even out the volume between the loud and soft levels but if you're using the TV's internal speakers I don't know how you would patch it in. If you're sending the audio portion on the program out to an external monitoring system then you could find a way to put it in the lines somewhere. In order for the intense or action scenes to hit really hard they have to be much louder than the calmer ones. They use dynamics in the same way music does. There has to be quiet in order for loud to have an impact. One thing to be aware of if you decide to get a compressor, the noise level will increase when the quiet sections are brought up in level. It will take some adjusting.
There are a number of relatively inexpensive units out there. Call Sweetwater and talk to one of their sales engineers. They can help you choose which will work for you at the amount you want to spend. Their staff is excellent.
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Post by reverendrob on Aug 7, 2022 21:35:34 GMT -5
On the TV aspect, check your menus on the TV, may be able to adjust some of it yourself in their settings.
Also, you'd need to be able to run the audio out to something through any outboard compression - so you'll need a soundbar or something that takes the compressor's outputs (it WON'T be HDMI!).
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Post by ninworks on Aug 12, 2022 17:18:50 GMT -5
This studio rewiring is getting very tedious. I gutted my rack 4 days ago and started with updating the AC power distribution in it. I have a 20 Amp line conditioner/regulator for all my studio gear. The way I had it all hooked up before there were some things that didn't run through it. I spent about 14 hours over the course of 2 days just getting the power for everything routed through it. I had 2 boxes that were level-full of IEC power cables like are used on computers and most audio hardware. I went to Lowe's and bought a bunch of 3 pronged AC plugs like one would use to repair a broken extension cord. I cut the IEC cables to length where they fit each and every device in the rack without any extra so it was all neat and clean. I was able to route all the AC power on one side of the rack so I can run all the audio stuff on the opposite side to keep induced AC hum at a minimum. All the AC cables are tied up and mounted to the rack so they are secure and out of the way. Onto the audio cabling and patch bays. I had already made the audio cables for the top half of the rack but hadn't connected them to the patch bays at that time because I was waiting to get the AC power sorted out before I mounted any of it. I got all that mounted and plugged in. Then onto the bottom half of the rack. I'll be able to reuse one of the 16 channel snakes I used previously because I had already made it to fit what is there. Each channel of that snake has colored shrink wrap on the lines so I can trace which channel it is which from either end of the cabling. I have 6 colors of shrink wrap and can can combine them in different ways to get a multitude of different and unique color combinations. I didn't want to repeat any of the ones I had already used so, on the spreadsheet I made for my patch bays, I made a list of all the possible color combinations. Then I made another list of the ones I had already used. I needed 24 more channels of cabling so I listed all the connections and assigned unique color codes to each cable along with the correct type and gender of plug the cables need to plug into the devices. TRS, XLR male or female. Then I went to the drawing of the patch bays and inserted the applicable color codes to each individual patch point for each connection. I did that once and when I double-checked it there were some errors. Rather than try to insert corrections here and there I just wiped it out and did it over. That way I could work through it systematically from start to finish. I hadn't done that the first time and that's why there were problems. When I double-checked the second version everything was perfect. Now when I start cutting cable and soldering plugs onto the wires I have a map to follow. That way I'll get the correct plug type (TRS, XLR male or female) in the right location with the correct color code. I can follow the codes on my map and plug the right cable into the right jack on the rear of patch bays. It took me all afternoon to get that mess drawn up and documented. I would rather plan it well up front and have it work the first time rather than fly by the seat of my pants and have to go back and fix problems after I'm finished. I've always had pretty good luck with that method. If I did this kind of thing everyday I would probably find ways to streamline this process but, this works for me. Otherwise I might insert a compressor on a channel and when I hit the enable button the toilet might flush in the bathroom. I can't even imagine what would be involved building out a major studio with a huge console and rack after rack of outboard gear. I'm sure there are shortcuts which come with experience. I have built a couple small home studios and the time involved is crazy. I have also built out numerous racks for mobile PA's and live rigs. You just have to use higher quality hardware or stuff breaks from having to be moved around and transported all the time. I'll resume soldering tomorrow. My back hurts already. Some of the color codes. Many more to come. i.postimg.cc/VLR0WL9q/Snake-Color-Codes.jpg
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Aug 14, 2022 2:14:40 GMT -5
NICE work!
I love making cables...it's therapy.
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Post by ninworks on Aug 15, 2022 8:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by gbfun on Aug 16, 2022 4:48:29 GMT -5
Wow ninworks...that's pure art right there. Looking good ! Yeah, I run the sound out of my GFs older TV via the headphone out into a stereo soundbar more or less. When my GF settles down from her latest emotional freakout, I'll patch in an old Alesis 360 I found in a closet and see what I can figure out. A monkey would do as well. I don't know a hard knee from a knee in the groin. But this is as good as time as any to learn ! Which reminds me, I'd be wise to track down a manual about now...
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Post by rickyguitar on Aug 18, 2022 7:54:18 GMT -5
So Ninworks, not your 1dt rodeo I see. Nice work.
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Post by ninworks on Aug 18, 2022 14:16:33 GMT -5
So Ninworks, not your 1dt rodeo I see. Nice work. Thanks guys. No, not my first and probably not my last. Been making cables nearly as long as I have been playing guitar. I'm 65 and started when I was 10 and got my first electric when I was 13. I have wired dozens of racks over the years. I am doing something new this time. Making my own custom length MIDI cables. I need a number of them less than a foot long and the shortest ones you can buy are 3 feet. That makes for a lot of extra cable to have to find a place for and keep out of the way when there are numerous devices to connect in a confined space. The DIN plugs should be here Saturday. Already have the cable. I should finish this mess this weekend.
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