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Post by ninworks on Dec 23, 2023 10:30:43 GMT -5
As you probably know by now I am always working on improving my playing technique. Lately I have been practicing my economy picking. Last week I made a breakthrough and had one of those great moments when hard work pays off. This week I have lost it. I went for 2 or 3 days without practicing and when I picked the guitar up again it wasn't there. At least not to my satisfaction. It wasn't gone completely but wasn't where I thought it was last week.
It's also a strong possibility that it wasn't as good last week as I thought it was. I may have gotten excited about being able to do something I previously has almost no ability to execute at any level. Now the 'new' has worn off and I'm paying closer attention to the details of doing it well. I have also been switching guitars to practice because that also has an effect. I want to be able to do it on anything and not just the guitar I like to play the most. I have practiced unplugged, through different amps and modelers, as well as different guitars. All of that stuff has an influence upon the way it feels when playing.
I'll get it back. It just requires more seat time. I thought I had it down but don't yet. It feels great to actually have some time to practice right now because of the property maintenance taking its winter vacation.
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Post by gbfun on Dec 25, 2023 11:18:58 GMT -5
Ha. I've read your practice adventures with a bit of shock and amazement. Even a bit of jealousy ! For I'm only a couple of years older than you and I have ZERO option to skip even ONE day if I'm to hold on to what technical skills I have. In fact, technical progress for me is like swimming upstream every day, with one step forward and one or two steps back, on very slippery rock in cold, rushing water ! This can be quite frustrating if I let it. But I accept it now. I also accept I have to warm up for an hour and play for almost 2 hours every DAY...or...I can't use all my guitar techniques well, or have much hope of progressing. And that's just for lead with a little rhythm. To focus on rhythm I'd need another HOUR a day at least ! And that doesn't include time for learning new songs or practicing vocals, which take another TWO hours a day to maintain. Adding in recording time and equipment exploration would add more hours a day to the mix. And more time is actually required each day for learning more about the guitar and voice and performance techniques ; unending learning curves and rabbit holes ! (I'm still down rabbit hole 5 two months after I went down rabbit hole 1 for example. Ack) And at my age, and I guess we're talking about "real physical health age", there's no way my hands are going to hold up to more than a couple of hours of practice a DAY...and if I take a day off...I go backwards in a hurry. (At the beginning of the year I found THREE of my left hand finger joints became "sprained" so bad I decided to take the 6 weeks rest Dr. Google suggested, and that was a MAJOR disaster ! Not only did my sprain pain still exist at the end of 6 weeks, but it took me 6 MONTHS to get BACK to where I had been technically. I'll never do that again ! And in some ways, I haven't recovered my skill level YET ! Note however, this wasn't as impressive as a shredding guitar player I knew who practiced scales for so long and hard for a couple weeks, that both his hands swelled up like the Michelin Man to twice their normal size ! I hope he recovered but maybe he did damage too. He dropped out and I lost track after a move. My hands seem to have recovered, thank goodness, but I make sure to warmup slowly first, and no longer play so aggressively) Now of course, when young, I could take time off of most physical things like sports and wouldn't lose much or any skills ; not so nowadays. So when I read how you take a lot of time off from practicing I have to think...huh ? Because you are way more advanced and experienced than me. Is it muscle memory from your youth ? Or is your real physical age a decade less than your real age ? Or extra talent ? Does your property maintenance keep your body and brain super healthy ? I suppose all could be true. If so, you are fortunate. I didn't even have an electric guitar until my late forties and only used it to back up my vocals without learning much about it until the last decade or so. My loss ! These guitar things are a UNIVERSE of music possibilities...so cool ! But then, I should have started playing guitar at 8, 8hrs a day to really be good at it, right ? Not happening with this old body ! Not able to take even a DAY off ever. And I can only get to 90% of my skills playing 2hrs a day. That doesn't include bar chord or power chord rhythm practice, new songs, recording, equipment exploration, performance and vocal practice, etc etc which is clearly too energy and time intensive for me to handle any more. I suspect further degradation of abilities, strength, and energy are ahead for all of us geezers. All of which is to be expected of course. Eventually. I'll hit the big 70 in 2024. Someday I might be limited to just cowboy chords or have to switch to keyboards in the old folks home. But for now, I give lead all I got and have a blast ! Les Paul managed to do ok into old age. But I sure don't miss a SINGLE day. How you do that and not freak out is a mystery to me...I get nervous just thinking about it.
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Post by ninworks on Dec 26, 2023 8:52:25 GMT -5
Depending upon what I'm practicing I can still play for hours and hours although my developing arthritis causes me to change it up sometimes. My hands almost always feel better after I have been playing. The more I do it the better they feel, but I have to be very conscious of bodily tension. Not just in my hands but my back, neck, shoulders, legs, arms, or wherever. When working on new techniques I have a tendency to tense up the muscles in my lower back. If I don't control that it will hurt me considerably. I am trying to remain conscious of being relaxed all over as I'm practicing or else I feel like I had been shoveling dirt all day. Muscle pain is a monster that eats up all my energy. I must keep that under control. I'm getting there.
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Post by gbfun on Dec 27, 2023 4:34:49 GMT -5
Yeah, it sure is a "use it or lose it" world ! I just hope health care will help out and extend our playing years but until then...two words. Keith Richards. PS. And speaking of the Stones...I listened to their new song "Angry" and they mixed it rather strangely I thought. At the back of the song they sounded like the Stones but the beginning of the song had so much space that it almost lost any sense of continuity or flow ! Weird. Also, I thought the song would have been better at a faster pace. I'm sure you were waiting for this comment...so there you are ! And yeah, I spend some energy trying to play as lightly as I can, and trying to not get too tense myself. Some days I get so lost in concentration that I not only lose over an hour, I don't move for so long I get stiff ! I don't know if a lighter guitar would help but I just saw Gibson has a new light Les Paul that's half way to an SG with a thinner, all Mohagany body. I haven't felt the need to seek a lighter guitar yet...but the day might be coming...and a half Les Paul, half SG might be interesting ! I tried the thinner body strats though, and I don't recommend them at all. Thankfully, I don't have near the back issues some people have. But after a 3hr playing day, I notice the strain. Will this get worse with time ? Probably. I'll be checking out helium filled guitars eventually...
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Post by ninworks on Dec 27, 2023 4:51:59 GMT -5
Lately I have been playing my semi-hollow Gibson Custom Shop CS356. It's basically an ES335 with a smaller body. It weighs 6.1 lbs. so it's a lightweight. I still go back and forth between it and my Strat, SG, and Les Paul but spend most of my time with the 356. It plays and sounds great so what's not to like. The Strat is the outlier for me because of the wider Musikraft neck I put on it a few years ago. The string spacing is considerably wider than the Gibsons with its 1.75" nut width. It's good for me to change it up to get familiar with different string spacing. I think that helps solidify new techniques.
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Post by gbfun on Dec 28, 2023 16:57:20 GMT -5
Ah. There are days when my callouses are too soft and my fat fingers interfere with the adjacent strings. I've been thinking about getting a wider neck just for those days. Thankfully, this doesn't happen too often...yet. I can use my Godin nylon converted to metal for extra string spacing, but those pickups are unsatisfactory. My now departed Dad reported more and more difficulties with his callouses as he aged and I have to assume this will be my fate as well. Old bodies probably don't grow skin as quickly and as well as when young ? So don't lose your wide neck just in case. Also, lately it's hit me how useful humbucker pole pieces can be ! You could dial in even volumes across all strings, or emphasize strings to best bring out for the punch or sparkle or crackle or thud of various distortion settings/boxes. Even cleans ! One can actually optimize for just ONE preset sound. It takes time and patience though and sure, I used to think it's overkill most of the time. But if I was could only have one guitar, my vote is for humbuckers for those pole pieces and ability to push electrons. Sadly, I did not acquire a 335 type guitar. I thought the 356 was intriguing though. Glad to hear you really like it ! I'm still settling on what kind of guitar and sound I want ultimately. I NEVER EVER thought I'd be playing LEAD and apparently I never thought I'd get OLD. Ha. Surprise ! All I know about my next guitar is that it will have humbuckers, and maybe...a wider neck, and have a more rounded voice(rounded highs and lows). A 335 type might be ok, or some PRS. I want a Jerry Garcia/Les Paul ability/lead sound...plus a rounded brash to crushing power chords capability. Will a 335 type do that without the ice pick and weak bass issue ? I view guitars as each having a unique voice, with most having an unbalanced sweetspot. I want a rounded, full guitar voice with a well balanced sweetspot everywhere. And I can probably dream on too ! But that's the goal. Of course this is all complicated by the digital effects boxes and amp and setup one uses. And at what volume it will all work in. One thing I can say about electric guitars is that they are impossibly, never endingly, magnificently complicated if one really tries at the biggest sweetspot and best tone(using digital equipment for sure). I could easily have one guitar dedicated to a single preset on each FX box and then I'd need 20 guitars I couldn't use for anything else but their specialized preset ! And that's nuts. Or the province best left to pros. The rumor used to be that 335s could cover the most ground and maybe that's exactly what I need now. I was put off by the size of a 335 originally so pretty much ignored them. A smaller version might be just right though. I'll make a point of trying out a few in 2024 and see. And 6lbs is 6lbs. I know I don't like my 59ish LP much for what I'm doing and it's 9lbs +. It's a great guitar for what it does but I either need to change out the pickups or change guitars. So we'll see. Glad to hear you really favor the 356 ! And you if you haven't fiddled with your pole piece heights yet, you might be surprised by how much the pole pieces can affect your tone with overdrive and distortion(digital anyway), due to how each string hits your preamp/fx box with more or less volume and/or how even you want the volume across the strings for lead. Better write down your original settings and allocate a lot of time though...I've spent WEEKs doing this already...with a different solution every day ! It's starting to settle out though. And some setups give spectacular rhythm distortion but weak leads, or strong leads and weak rhythm distortion. I was also looking for a decent guitar-to-bass sound for looping, and found it, only to lose it when I raised the output of the low freqs with the pole pieces(octave fx got overwhelmed with too much pickup output I think). So pole pieces can be significant and certainly a bit maddening ! But they are an extra adjustment that single coils don't have. And in the case of a hollow guitar, those pole piece adjustments might be very handy for controlling any feedback issues at high volume too...or creating that issue...so there's that...
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Post by gbfun on Dec 28, 2023 18:34:03 GMT -5
P.S. If you get the chance, check out youtube "dream les paul" by Rett Shull. Compares LPs for tone and there is quite a variance. So is it the guitar wood ? The electronics ? The magnets ? The pole piece settings or the pickup heights ? Strings ? There was some difference in players but not that much.
These top players didn't seem to ponder tech details much, they just looked for what sounded best "as currently set up". But I bet the electronics can vary(usually a 10% variance in resistors and as much in volume/tone knobs) enough to change tone. So can magnet strength(these can be partially demagnitized somewhere in the delivery and may actually "age"), pickup heights and pole piece settings. Strings too. Both elite players liked a creamy beefy bridge and that's exactly what I want as well. But so many pricy LPs didn't have it. Mine doesn't. Does your 336 ? If so, you got something. Now that I know what I want and have played around with humbucker pole pieces and electronics, given time, maybe I can "fix" my LP. Probably not but when I watched those guys compare LPs, I wonder where the best tones actually came from. I just can't buy that it's the strictly controlled wood that probably DOESN'T have a 10% variance.
Lots of mysteries in geetars, that's for sure !
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Post by ninworks on Jan 3, 2024 14:46:03 GMT -5
My 356 has a standard Gibson ABR-1 Tune-O-Matic bridge with a stop tailpiece. I don't know the heft of the tailpiece. It has been my experience with Les Pauls that a lighter tailpiece tends to sound better to me. I took the stock one off my 60's Tribute Gold-top Les Paul and replaced it with a featherweight one. I also had an ABR-1 bridge put onto it in place of the stock one on the recommendation of my stellar guitar tech buddy. That guitar sounds and plays marvelous. My only issue is with the G string intonation problem that all Les Pauls have with unwound G strings. It makes me have to be very selective about how I voice chords.
For me, I don't think the sound really changes that much from one solid body humbucker guitar to the next but the playing sensitivity most certainly does. How the guitar responds to touch is a big deal for me. I think where the electronics come into play is mostly when playing at less that wide open on the pots. That's where I hear most of the differences.
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Post by gbfun on Jan 8, 2024 20:33:21 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you on solid bodies with humbuckers in my experience. The main differences appear to be the actual pickup sensitivity/setup, and I agree that the electronics vary a great deal that is only noticeable when dialing back for different tones(I use this a LOT). I haven't played with bridges yet but I guess I'll get there someday. And surprise, surprise, when I played with a 9 pounder for 3+ hours, my back got pretty tired and stiff like many have reported. No biggie but it stops me from playing longer. So, short of drilling a lot of holes in my practice guitar(ha), it seems I will have to acquire a lighter guitar...or start two practice sessions. I did cut about 6oz or so of wood for greater upper fret access on a beater LP studio, but it's still pretty heavy...and of course, it's sacrilege, right ? I guess at this point, what's a few more holes ? It needs a pickup upgrade and I know as long as it has a solid center block it will pretty much act like a 335 anyway(I found a damaged acoustic in a thrift store and I filled it with foam and cut the damaged "wings" off and except for some lows, its a cool sounding acoustic still !) Call me crazy but I think it's the center block that is really the key part of a guitar. But we'll see. My beater LP isn't cutting it as is so lightening it up the brutal way might actually improve it ! At the very least, a guitar with holes in it will make it a Lockable guitar for dubious environments. It sure is made of super hard and super dense wood though ! Almost like shaping steel I thought 25 years ago. It also doubles as a dangerous weapon. My theory now is that LP studios are B rate LPs after someone determined the best guitars off the assembly line, because my expensive LP sustains and the LP studio does not(very much). Of course there are many factors to that story that might be adjusted. Anyway, it needs new pickups and electronics when I get time. I checked out the Epi 335 on Youtube and maybe that will work if I find a good one. We'll see. Clearly, heavy guitars become a factor if playing more than a couple hours at a time, and that's pretty easy to do when fussing with pedals and floorboards, right ? I'm not ready to sit down to play, though I warm up that way. Now that I said that, I guess I might as well carve out some body contours while I'm at it. Might shave off another 3oz or so. Got enough rabbit holes to deal with already though. So the taming of the beater LP will have to wait. The last thing you mentioned about the 3rd string...yes indeed. I too notice that. I try to balance all the strings in volume and the dang 3rd string is always the loudest and most annoying ! I end up trying to match the volume of all the strings to the unwound 3rd string. And yes, the 3rd string does seem to cause the most tuning issues too. I also have problems with the 6th string. Especially as I tune to D. Pressing down the 6th or 3rd can easily mess with the tuning and I purposely tune the 6th string a little flat. I don't have much of an answer for the 3rd string because if one tunes it for one chord voicing, it can be out of tune for another chord voicing. Ack. I've certainly encountered this on high string power chords. So you think a wound 3rd string is better for tuning and volume balance ? I guess an experiment is called for...even Bukovac has trouble with LPs and tuning so I'm not sure how I'll ever figure it out. I might end up working my way around it like you do, and I already adjust my attack lower on the 3rd string. And... maybe the slightly out of tune LP makes the crunch sound more full. Who knows ? Have you tried a Plek ? machine on your LPs ?
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Post by ninworks on Jan 9, 2024 4:52:28 GMT -5
No I haven't tried the Plek yet but after having a number of different Gibson solid body guitars over the years, I don't think that will remedy the intonation problem with the unwound G string. Since all of what I do anymore is studio stuff I just tune it for where on the neck I'll be playing. I can always punch in parts in sections when needed so tuning, while a PITA, isn't a huge issue. Most of the time it isn't noticeable when playing lead lines but chords are a different thing. My Les Paul is weight relieved and 8.6 pounds. Not light but not that heavy either. I sit when I play in the studio anyway so it isn't an issue. My Rickenbacker 4001 bass is 10.1 pounds and I used to play it all night standing up in my younger years. I probably still could if I were still gigging but I'm not so we'll never know. I stumbled across this the other day and it looks interesting. Not sure if it will affect the sound of the guitar due to the extensive routing and modification involved to install it, but it looks like it would fix all the tuning problems. I would consider doing it on my Les Paul because it's a lower line reissue and I've already done a number of modifications on it. www.evertune.com/resources/introduction_to_evertune.php?utm_source=website&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=header_e01
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Post by gbfun on Jan 9, 2024 8:55:31 GMT -5
Evertune is an interesting twist...but. My beater LP was purchased from a bankrupt company that custom installed it's own machined metal bridge that was embedded in a routed out hole too. This bridge was supposed to sustain better and of course, have better tone. What it really did was 1)not improve sustain or tone 2)shortened the "center block" 3)added weird overtones on some strings and 4)added about a pound in machined metal plus a metal back panel to the 9lb guitar. Did it look cool ? Sure. But that was it. And it cost about $300 for a factory installation. Sound familiar ? Evertune also has big claims, also shortens the "center block"(length of the neck and the wood extending past it), probably adds weight, costs around $300 for a factory installation, and looks cool. But Evertune does seem to have a tuning stability superpower which might be great for rhythm chords. I'm still not sure how it maintains exact tuning when a 3rd string is pushed down hard or soft though...the note can be easily pushed sharp depending...but let's assume Evertune is fantastically great at maintaining string tuning. Ok... 1)how much weight does it add ? Heavy wood is removed but heavy metal replaces it. And it costs an extra $300. Is this extra weight and money worth it for a rhythm only guitar ? 2)it shortens the effective "center block" by gutting the middle of the guitar. The 335 supposedly sustains ok, and I understand that the 335 center block doesn't extend the full length of the guitar, but it would still be like 50% longer than a gutted Evertune guitar. Is this short "center block"/hole in the gutted solid body guitar significant to resonance or sustain ? Maybe. My beater with a similar hole really doesn't sustain that well. Perhaps it was just a dead guitar to start with ? Could be, but having a major hole in the middle of a solid body could be a negative for tone and/or sustain. 3)and what about the loss of vibrato and bending when the Evertune is set up to be most effective for tuning stability ? You see, the Evertune is claiming that NO bend or vibrato is going to change the tuning of each string with it's device...and it's designed for that specifically ! Sure, perhaps one could compromise some tuning stability to return bending and vibrato capability... but just how strong is that tuning stability system at that point ? 4)does it look cool ? Sure. But how does it really sound and work ? That would involve a test run. I didn't notice any weird overtones in my metal block bridge until later. I thought the sustain was ok when buying it, but that was before I had a REAL sustaining guitar to compare it to. And I wasn't so concerned with weight because it was my first electric guitar and...surely the engineers knew what they were doing ! Ha. It looked cool, the guitar was cheap, and I suckered in and rolled the dice. And lost. So my fancy metal bridge block is completely removed today. However, I am rather impressed with the Evertune for what it does...or claims to do. What this bridge and it's installation does to the actual sound/tone of the guitar remains to be tested, however. And, although it "claims" to handle guitars tuned to D or whatever, does it really ? The Evertune is all about balance and it can only balance to a certain point. Lastly, a LP is both a rhythm guitar and a lead guitar, and lead guitar is full of bends and vibrato. Having a LP dedicated to rhythm only is a bit of a waste I'd say ! And Evertune certainly seems to interfere with vibrato and bends when optimized for tuning stability. However, there was a claim Evertune can be set up to include bends and vibrato, and still stay perfectly in tune too. Really ? Well, that's a big claim. I'd have to play it personally myself. Maybe the feel is different. Or the tone. Or it can degrade over time. Or change behavior in temperature changes. Or corrode. Or wear my back out in record time. Who knows ? And I suppose an Evertune would be fine for lead players that don't bend or use vibrato. Jazz players ? Les Paul himself ? In that case, Evertune might be a good thing !
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