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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 15, 2024 10:37:41 GMT -5
This one:  Set Neck Telecaster Body Neck by Larry Madsen, on Flickr I also ordered a set of stock tuners that would go on this body. It is a set neck/carve top. I have wanted for a long time to build a carve top tele with Filtertron PUPs. I had always figured it would have to be another Warmoth project in order to get the carve top. With this I get original Fender, carve top and a set neck, mahogany body & neck. It is also a very nice-looking flame maple top in a color I do not have. And best of all Queenie is onboard with it as well. Always good to have the wife onboard!  |
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 15, 2024 20:14:37 GMT -5
Edited to correct my copy and paste of the mis-statement In the other thread SD Psyclones were brought up as compatible with regular humbucker size and I have check on those. I have no personal experience with Filtertron PUPs. I have also discovered the Gretsch Broad'Tron pickup in humbucker size. Would these Gretch PUPs be a decent choice to consider?  Gretch Filtertrons by Larry Madsen, on Flickr |
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Post by Leftee on Jan 15, 2024 20:59:56 GMT -5
SD Psyclones
I misstated in that other thread.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 15, 2024 21:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Jan 16, 2024 0:07:22 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 16, 2024 0:15:33 GMT -5
Any thoughts regarding the Gretch humbucker size version?
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Post by Leftee on Jan 16, 2024 2:22:28 GMT -5
The Broad’trons and closer to a PAF sort of tone, but with a sweet top end. Mind the differences. There’s are BTs for the lower end Streamliner Gretsch, and there are the higher end BT65s from the pro series.
To my ears the BTs have the Gretsch sound with more output.
The Psyyclones are more like a Filter’tron.
This seems a good primer on the pickups.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 16, 2024 8:24:02 GMT -5
Very good. Got it. 😜
I don’t want this to be just another HH guitar. I have that covered a few times over.
My Ibanez AR325QA has the HH w/coil splitting capability.
Definitely looking for Filtertron sound on this build.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 16, 2024 12:54:40 GMT -5
I purchased the SD Psyclones PUPs. Body, tuners, ferrules PUPs all in route. I can't find definitive info on bridge (string spacing) for this guitar. It appears to be this 52.5mm. I think I'd like one with a bit more "heft" to it, but I need to be sure of string spacing.  s-l1600 by Larry Madsen, on Flickr Then I need to get into the pots, switch and jack. I'll be looking for some guidance on those.  Found this Demo of the PUPs. |
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Post by Leftee on Jan 16, 2024 16:35:06 GMT -5
I think this will be a groovy guitar.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 17, 2024 11:43:09 GMT -5
What pots and caps would I want for this set-up?
Also is there a type or brand I should be looking for.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 21, 2024 14:28:30 GMT -5
Bump. Hoping for input regarding above question regarding pots and caps for this configuration.
I reading some info stating these PUPs are bright so use 250 pots. Others saying use 500 pots an one talking 1m.
Then the cap situation.
I want to order the electronic components, but don’t want make blind guesses at it.
Any info or advise appreciated. 😜
Edited to add: The body is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Jan 21, 2024 15:07:27 GMT -5
If in doubt, you can use 500k pots and add a resistor from the main to ground to mimic the sound of a lower value pot. 500k pot plus a 470kohm resistor in parallel will get it close to a 250k pot tone. The nice thing is that you can get a bunch of resistors and monkey around and find in between values that you wouldn't get just by swapping pots.
I wouldn't go above a .022uf on the cap value, unless there's precedent for using higher values with Gretsch style pickups that I don't know about.
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Post by Leftee on Jan 21, 2024 16:56:59 GMT -5
I recall that SD recommends 500k pots.
At least I think I remember this. I haven’t looked it up.
Ditto on the .022 cap.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 21, 2024 17:37:47 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Jan 21, 2024 18:20:21 GMT -5
 regular pickup ring. You might want a ring for a carved top guitar. I’ve never used a PIO. Pretty much orange drops or polystyrene caps. not sure what size pot holes you’ll have. |
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 21, 2024 18:52:05 GMT -5
I had figured the metal rings would bend to a sight curve to match the top … assuming the amount of bend required does not invoke to much of a “shortening” effect.
I’ll go with the orange drop caps.
Is there a particular 500k pot brand or any other characteristic I should be looking for?
If the body shows up tomorrow as expected I can verify the hole sizes.
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Post by Leftee on Jan 21, 2024 19:37:49 GMT -5
I’d measure to see what the pot holes are drilled to. CTS, Alpha and Bournes are what I use in no particular order. Whatever I have on hand that fits.
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Post by LTB on Jan 22, 2024 3:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jan 22, 2024 10:42:10 GMT -5
Looks like a fun project, Larry. I have 3 Tele partscasters but all are setup in traditional 2 single coils.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 22, 2024 12:20:38 GMT -5
I have this "dead soft, tin coated, copper tape" on hand.  copper tape by Larry Madsen, on Flickr How much benefit is there to shielding the electronic cavities on this project with the Filtertrons? |
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Post by Leftee on Jan 22, 2024 13:43:23 GMT -5
It’s less beneficial than shielding a single coil instrument. If you have an electronically noisy environment it’s worth doing. Do your other HB guitars have noise issues?
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 22, 2024 14:08:43 GMT -5
Do your other HB guitars have noise issues? No, not that I have ever noticed. |
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Post by Leftee on Jan 22, 2024 14:25:01 GMT -5
I usually take the extra step of shielding my builds because I never know where they will be played.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 22, 2024 15:02:10 GMT -5
PUPs have arrived. I pulled out my guitar tool box and discovered a couple of parts that I can use. A set of black PUP rings, an out jack and a couple of black knobs. I'm not certain about the bridge. It isn't drilled for strings thru body. I can fix that; just not sure I want to do it.  Psyclone PUPs by Larry Madsen, on Flickr |
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 22, 2024 15:13:33 GMT -5
I usually take the extra step of shielding my builds because I never know where they will be played. I won't have my electronics all here for a while, so knowing that ... I have the material and I have the time. I might go ahead and shield it. |
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 22, 2024 19:03:46 GMT -5
It's Here:  body just arrived by Larry Madsen, on Flickr The switch hole won't quite accept a 1/2" drill bit. The pot openings are about 3/8" Looks like a standard switchcraft toggle should be good and I'll find some 500K pots that fit. Edited to add: that bridge I have matches up to the existing screw holes in the body perfectly. I may just go ahead and drill it for strings through body. Also, the elevated top surface where the PUP rings mount is pretty much dead flat across. |
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jan 22, 2024 20:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Jan 22, 2024 21:02:02 GMT -5
I use audio tapers. I think you can use linear taper for volume, IIRC.
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Post by Leftee on Jan 22, 2024 21:06:23 GMT -5
Fwiw…
Most of my Teles are top loaded - even if I can do string-through. I like the way they play (top-loaded). It might all be in my head. There’s lots of wackiness up there.
I did an experiment on a Tele, years ago. I tried both string-through and top-loaded, back to back on the same guitar. I could not hear a difference. So top-loaded is how I roll.
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