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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 14:55:41 GMT -5
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 1, 2024 15:49:55 GMT -5
Hand built in Kalamazoo and nitro finished.
I don't think that answers the original question tho😂
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 15:51:15 GMT -5
Hand built in Kalamazoo and nitro finished. I don't think that answers the original question tho😂 Yea, I don't doubt they're MILES above the originals..but...why do it under "harmony?" |
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Post by LesTele on Feb 1, 2024 15:57:30 GMT -5
Nostalgic Boomers or Jack White.
That’s all I have on the subject.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 15:59:09 GMT -5
Nostalgic Boomers or Jack White. That’s all I have on the subject. The boomers...aren't buying enough at this point I suspect, and the Hipsters...well...gonna hip on real old junk. |
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 16:00:09 GMT -5
Should add that the "Jack White" thing ...maybe 20 years ago, but...that star has faded a LOT.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 1, 2024 16:18:53 GMT -5
I'm confused about the Kalamazoo thing. Is this in some old facility that uncovered unopened cans of NOS Mojo?
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Post by LesTele on Feb 1, 2024 16:33:51 GMT -5
He’s still a thing. NMENot a fan. |
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 16:50:28 GMT -5
I'm confused about the Kalamazoo thing. Is this in some old facility that uncovered unopened cans of NOS Mojo? It's just where they're making them. |
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 16:51:20 GMT -5
He’s still a thing. NMENot a fan. I know he is, but he's a shadow of the "fame" and sell power he would have had at his height. |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 1, 2024 17:01:18 GMT -5
I would consider buying such a guitar for slide work, but it'd have to be from a pawnshop for about $80.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 17:09:40 GMT -5
I would consider buying such a guitar for slide work, but it'd have to be from a pawnshop for about $80. Exactly. |
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Feb 1, 2024 19:57:03 GMT -5
You know the kind of trustafarian hipsters who will spend hundreds (thousands?) of dollars on clothes to make it look like they shop at thrift stores? Okay, now instead of clothes, guitars. A lot of the "I'm in a band" crowd these days will lean in really hard to hipster trends.
Boomers don't want it. Boomers had the guitars, hated them, and dreamed of some day owning a guitar like the ones they saw their heroes play on the album art. When they retired, many bought their first Les Paul or whatever, some barely having ever played one before.
The old ones are cool mostly for the pickups. With a lot of those, if you pulled them and installed them on a better guitar with some decent height adjustment they'd be AMAZING. How good those guitars are for the money depends on whether they nail the pickups or not. If they're just generic coils hiding under a retro shell, then the instruments have no redeeming qualities in my book.
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Post by krrf on Feb 1, 2024 20:31:06 GMT -5
Total headscratcher on this one. I had a early 1960's Harmony Rocket that I had rebuilt and it was an OK guitar, nothing I'd brag about. I think years ago I picked it up for about $200 and after dumping maybe $200 to have it fixed up, I sold it not long after for around $500. Out of curiosity, I went to go see what a vintage one would be now... RocketI don't get why anyone would pay more for something that isn't as cool and not vintage?! |
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 21:21:25 GMT -5
Total headscratcher on this one. I had a early 1960's Harmony Rocket that I had rebuilt and it was an OK guitar, nothing I'd brag about. I think years ago I picked it up for about $200 and after dumping maybe $200 to have it fixed up, I sold it not long after for around $500. Out of curiosity, I went to go see what a vintage one would be now... RocketI don't get why anyone would pay more for something that isn't as cool and not vintage?! I don't either, and it's not like this a marquee brand or "original people" or some crap. |
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 1, 2024 21:22:56 GMT -5
You know the kind of trustafarian hipsters who will spend hundreds (thousands?) of dollars on clothes to make it look like they shop at thrift stores? Okay, now instead of clothes, guitars. A lot of the "I'm in a band" crowd these days will lean in really hard to hipster trends. Boomers don't want it. Boomers had the guitars, hated them, and dreamed of some day owning a guitar like the ones they saw their heroes play on the album art. When they retired, many bought their first Les Paul or whatever, some barely having ever played one before. The old ones are cool mostly for the pickups. With a lot of those, if you pulled them and installed them on a better guitar with some decent height adjustment they'd be AMAZING. How good those guitars are for the money depends on whether they nail the pickups or not. If they're just generic coils hiding under a retro shell, then the instruments have no redeeming qualities in my book. Yea, this isn't a "boomer nostalgia" instrument. Nobody thinks "I miss my first POS, so let's buy a MODERN repro that's not a repro"when the OG ones are...cheap. |
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Post by LTB on Feb 1, 2024 22:22:46 GMT -5
Its a special kinda ugly for a special kind of idiot! 🤣😂🤣😂
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Post by ninworks on Feb 2, 2024 4:54:40 GMT -5
It's kind of like the people who are so enamored with the old Teisco brand crap. I had one it it was beyond a piece of junk. Why would anyone want something like that if they are a real guitar player. I would be embarrassed to have one of those in the case, in the closet, behind a pile of Les Pauls. Might make a good dart board if hung on the wall backwards.
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Post by woody on Feb 2, 2024 7:52:43 GMT -5
Made in the Heritage factory. Basically an American made Les Paulish Special for $600 less than a Gibson. But yeah, a “Harmony”.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Feb 2, 2024 8:09:24 GMT -5
I think it's kinda cool.. Probably wouldn't buy it, but I don't hate it.
Seems an odd thing to be pissed off about. $1200 isn't that much for a guitar these days, especially one made in the USA by a company like Heritage.
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Post by DrKev on Feb 2, 2024 8:30:35 GMT -5
The old stuff was cool and quirky. Cheap and crappy? Sure, but still cool and quirky. A lot of folks are really happy to see more choice than just strats and LPs everywhere. For a lot of folks that old boomer stuff gets boring after a while. Now you can get a better quality versions of the old cool guitars. Or not, nobody has to buy it and nobody loses anything either. More choice in the market is a win for everyone.
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Post by sirWheat on Feb 2, 2024 8:34:25 GMT -5
I can see Heritage picking up the name for no other reason than having a recognizable name to market with. Haven't seen any of them but they get good reviews. I remember playing a few when I was a kid and the shops had a lot of 'em around. Even though I couldn't play well they just felt like crap. So, I too do not understand the prices that people are asking for 'em. Check this one out... annarbor.craigslist.org/msg/d/west-bloomfield-1969-harmony-75-player/7711650615.htmlYikes! |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 2, 2024 9:47:05 GMT -5
It's quite possibly a fine built and playing guitar. I don't necessarily think anyone's pissed off about it, but just expressing a bit of snark about the marketing angle. It seems to exploit the "everything vintage and retro must be good" approach. How many times has the phrase "wish I still had mine" been used in guitar forums? That sentiment isn't just limited to the usual suspects (Fender, Gibson, etc.). From a marketing perspective it may be a well thought out idea. It may also be crafted in such a way that appeals to the "mine was a pos but this is clearly refined" folks.
I hope they sell a million of them, I like to see USA businesses succeed. But whether it be guitars or cars or whatever, we'll be offering up an opinion. 😄
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 2, 2024 10:27:10 GMT -5
It's kind of like the people who are so enamored with the old Teisco brand crap. I had one it it was beyond a piece of junk. Why would anyone want something like that if they are a real guitar player. I would be embarrassed to have one of those in the case, in the closet, behind a pile of Les Pauls. Might make a good dart board if hung on the wall backwards. Exactly, it'd be like being proud of having a plywood bodied Kramer where the Floyd posts bent forward QUICKLY. |
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 2, 2024 10:36:29 GMT -5
It's quite possibly a fine built and playing guitar. I don't necessarily think anyone's pissed off about it, but just expressing a bit of snark about the marketing angle. It seems to exploit the "everything vintage and retro must be good" approach. How many times has the phrase "wish I still had mine" been used in guitar forums? That sentiment isn't just limited to the usual suspects (Fender, Gibson, etc.). From a marketing perspective it may be a well thought out idea. It may also be crafted in such a way that appeals to the "mine was a pos but this is clearly refined" folks. I hope they sell a million of them, I like to see USA businesses succeed. But whether it be guitars or cars or whatever, we'll be offering up an opinion. 😄 I'd like to see success, but it's a brand I've never witnessed ANY nostalgia for. |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 2, 2024 10:54:20 GMT -5
I was recently thinking about my first guitar. It was a Sears Silvertone from around 1970/71. It's so long gone I've mostly forgotten what it even looked like. I always thought it was a sort of Japanese Strat knockoff but as I learned about Mosrite guitars think it was crafted more in that style. So I was wondering where it eventually ended up. I recall either giving it or selling it to a friend who then turned it over to another classmate. That dude ended himself in a police standoff and that's where the guitar's history ends for me.
I was too green of a guitarist to even have an inkling to its quality. I do recall being complimented by an older more experienced guitarist at the 1 gig I used it at. He pretty much expressed surprise at how decent it sounded. Anyway, these recollections led me to a "it would be kinda cool to still have that guitar" place. I can see that thought process leading some with expendable income to that mindset. I'm not one of them, but I'm sure they exist.
Guitarists are always looking for a different look. I can see a younger demographic being drawn to the it, and not because their dads played one. But because it's something "new" and they don't realize their granddads played one, lol.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Feb 2, 2024 11:38:44 GMT -5
I can see a younger demographic being drawn to the it, and not because their dads played one. But because it's something "new" and they don't realize their granddads played one, lol. Yeah, I'm quite willing to bet that the target demographic for these is NOT older guys who remember the junky ones from the 60s, but younger players who want a retro-styled guitar (that isn't a Fender or Gibson) with modern playability. And if the "Harmony" brand name happens to make baby boomers contort their faces in disgust, then they'd probably consider that a bonus.. |
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Post by dadzmad on Feb 2, 2024 13:16:01 GMT -5
A few years ago I was looking for a LP Special and I came across a floor model Harmony Juno that came home for $950. Besides the footprint of the body, this guitar bears no resemblance to any old Harmony model. Bandlab bought the Heritage Co operating out of the old Gibson Plant in Kalmazoo and happened to own the Harmony trademark. I suspect that the main office told the plant to come with something in a lower price bracket. That said the Juno is a very nice guitar for the money and the build quality is better than a lower end Gibson like a LP Special of the same year. I got it cause it's small, light, plays well and the p90's sound good.
Nitro finished mahogany body and neck, this one has an ebony fingerboard, locking tuners, and a 3 barrel tele type string through bridge. Beside the cheesy covers the P90s exceeded my expectations. Just a P/U selector, and volume. It's a simple, small, light, and fun to play guitar. My 1st guitar was a Harmony but there is nothing to look back to here. It's a simple modern guitar made in USA with a few retro features and the one I play when my heavy ash Tele starts hurting my old shoulder.
The new Ford Rangers are a completely different animal than my 2010, there was a reason for each at the time, and it's just the way it is.
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Post by leftrightout on Feb 2, 2024 15:12:46 GMT -5
It's kind of like the people who are so enamored with the old Teisco brand crap. I had one it it was beyond a piece of junk. Why would anyone want something like that if they are a real guitar player. I would be embarrassed to have one of those in the case, in the closet, behind a pile of Les Pauls. Might make a good dart board if hung on the wall backwards. i don't know some people payed a pretty penny for some Teisco crap recently among other things
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Post by ninworks on Feb 2, 2024 15:16:12 GMT -5
It's kind of like the people who are so enamored with the old Teisco brand crap. I had one it it was beyond a piece of junk. Why would anyone want something like that if they are a real guitar player. I would be embarrassed to have one of those in the case, in the closet, behind a pile of Les Pauls. Might make a good dart board if hung on the wall backwards. Exactly, it'd be like being proud of having a plywood bodied Kramer where the Floyd posts bent forward QUICKLY. That Teisco had a warped and twisted neck, no truss rod, microphonic pickups and pots that took 3 or more fingers to twist, but it looked cool to a 13 year old who's first electric guitar was a Silvertone I bought with a little amp for $10 from a school friend. My next guitar was a 1962 Fender Jaguar. A gargantuan step up from those other two. I gave the Silvertone to my best friend who filed the nut, drilled holes in the tailpiece and put bass strings on it. I don't even remember where the Teisco went. Probably Goodwill. The next guitar I bought was my senior year of high school. My 1963 white and gold SG Custom. Still have that one. I became an accomplished guitarist playing that because I couldn't put it down. The Jaguar was stolen a number of years later or I would still have it. It was a very nice guitar but the SG made me a Gibson guy to the bone. I didn't play the Jag much after getting it. |
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