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Post by HeavyDuty on Feb 11, 2024 15:27:36 GMT -5
I’ve been intrigued by Ampeg fliptop amps for decades, and wonder if I would enjoy one. I see the legacy B-15 is gone, but they’re doing other head and cab components.
Think fingerstyle P5 seeking Motown tone. Which one do I want?
I have my current G-Ks for other tones.
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Post by Laker on Feb 12, 2024 15:05:20 GMT -5
I remember when those Ampeg B-18N amps were around in ‘63 and trying one out. I was used to my Fender Showman and thought the Ampeg had a very muddy, undefined sound that didn’t work for me playing rock music. I don’t remember too many people using them back in those days.
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Post by twangmeister on Feb 17, 2024 12:02:41 GMT -5
My brother had a single 12" fliptop from the early 60s These had problems with contacts between the head and the cabinet. It got resolved when he had an output jack installed on the head and an input jack on the cabinet.
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Post by LTB on Feb 20, 2024 1:07:25 GMT -5
Havent used one of those but back in the day used a a friends Ampeg V4 guitar amp with one of his two 4 x 10 cabs that sounded very good in a Small club venue
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Post by morrow on Feb 22, 2024 14:00:42 GMT -5
I regret not buying them when I had the chance , but really have no experience with them , other than being quite surprised by how much they weigh.
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Post by HeavyDuty on Feb 22, 2024 18:35:29 GMT -5
I think I need to find one of the more modern ones somewhere to try. I can’t imagine buying one ears unheard.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 22, 2024 19:48:18 GMT -5
They make better guitar amps than bass amps IMO.
Should note I'm not enamored much of them for that either, but I can at least make them work as a guitar amp if I HAVE to.
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Post by oldfartbassplayrwalt on Feb 24, 2024 16:52:47 GMT -5
My B-15T had push-pull on the tone knobs, giving you another level of tunability.
The amp worked fine for a folk-rock setup, could fit the tone in very nicely. It
had a JBL speaker replacement, which no doubt helped.
Solid state, but still heavy (80lbs ?)
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Post by Rick Knight on Feb 26, 2024 10:56:14 GMT -5
The James Jamerson connection of an old flip top appeals to me; but there are a lot of modern amps that weigh less, have more power and features, and cost considerably less than old flip tops.
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Post by Laker on Feb 27, 2024 19:25:13 GMT -5
I guess my actual recommendation would be to concentrate on something that is current. There are so many rigs that are out there today that are lighter weight and far, far better sounding. I was amazed when I picked up a used TC Electronics 2-10 cabinet ($100) that I thought would make a nice little practice cab. I power it with an Eden WTX500 and find it is a far more versatile rig than any fliptop Ampeg that was ever produced.
I don’t know if you’re just hooked on the nostalgia of the thing or you really think those old fliptops sound good, but I’d look at the current stuff that is oh, so much better.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 27, 2024 20:29:01 GMT -5
I guess my actual recommendation would be to concentrate on something that is current. There are so many rigs that are out there today that are lighter weight and far, far better sounding. I was amazed when I picked up a used TC Electronics 2-10 cabinet ($100) that I thought would make a nice little practice cab. I power it with an Eden WTX500 and find it is a far more versatile rig than any fliptop Ampeg that was ever produced. I don’t know if you’re just hooked on the nostalgia of the thing or you really think those old fliptops sound good, but I’d look at the current stuff that is oh, so much better. Yea, these days I'd just look at a modeller with as much power as you need honestly. Want SVT? Easy. Want grimier Marshall bass for your inner Lemmy? Easy. Cheap, superloud, modular, and old man back approved. |
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Post by HeavyDuty on Feb 28, 2024 8:57:35 GMT -5
I have multiple current heads and cabinets, the appeal of a fliptop is the specific tone and simplicity. I have no doubt my G-K gear is technically superior.
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Post by HeavyDuty on Feb 28, 2024 8:58:57 GMT -5
Yea, these days I'd just look at a modeller with as much power as you need honestly. Want SVT? Easy. Want grimier Marshall bass for your inner Lemmy? Easy. Cheap, superloud, modular, and old man back approved. Any suggestions for specific modelers? |
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Post by Leftee on Feb 28, 2024 13:06:56 GMT -5
If it’s an acquisition you’d like to make, skip the modeler and go for it!
For instance… I don’t have any Marshall modelers. I have lots-o-Marshalls.
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Post by HeavyDuty on Feb 28, 2024 17:56:54 GMT -5
I need to get chummy with someone who has one and see how I get on with it.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 28, 2024 18:01:10 GMT -5
I need to get chummy with someone who has one and see how I get on with it. My advice is to honestly just order a basic one from somewhere with a return policy - the baseline Boss stuff is decent if not perfect. It'll get you in the ballpark to see what you like. For pure 'modellers" I'm still last gen - I'm happy with the Eleven Rack and the Boss GT-100. |
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Post by Leftee on Feb 28, 2024 19:13:50 GMT -5
I’m just here to enable.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 29, 2024 8:26:10 GMT -5
If it’s an acquisition you’d like to make, skip the modeler and go for it! For instance… I don’t have any Marshall modelers. I have lots-o-Marshalls. My Eleven Rack was why I bought my DSL1! |
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Post by ninworks on Feb 29, 2024 17:05:16 GMT -5
I second the Eleven Racks. I have 2 of them. One that's built into my studio rack and one that's a part of my guitar amp rig that I use just for the effects. I have a Behringer remote foot controller I use with it for switching and control pedals for a volume or wah. It's old tech but it's done well and they can be found all over Reverb for $200 to $250. They do require an amp of some kind. For probably 90% of the guitar tracks I record I use it. It sounds good and is easy to set parameters after you get familiar with it. Lots of menus to scroll through though if that is a factor for you.
A few years ago I was going to go back to using amps and pedals. I bought some pedals and put a pedal board together. I hated the sound after using modelers ever since they were invented. I sold all the pedals but a couple and bought another Eleven Rack.
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