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Post by LVF on Feb 12, 2024 16:49:00 GMT -5
How could I utilize the sound coming from the rear of an open backed amp? What was it I wanted to do with the sound? A possible answer to these questions came to me in the form a noise between my ears in the form of a spring snapping(? ). I have this piece of Styrofoam and maybe if I prop it up at an angle in a upward position, it could change the sound direction. So, in this pic (above), I put the styrofoam at about a 45 degree angle and did a sound test and what I discovered was that the sound direction expanded to a higher level while maintaining the normal level as I observed in my seating position in front of the amp. I don't know if anybody else has done this before but, I found it to be a nice difference in changing the sound dynamic a bit from normal. As you can see in the pic above, it's just a sheet of Styrofoam propped up with a short mike stand for this experiment. The Styrofoam is the 'screen saver' for my Twin 12 Cab seen below. Don't know if this is useful to anyone but, I found it interesting none the less. Just thought I'd pass it along. P.S. I think something made out of a more solid material might even be a better alternative as I think the Styrofoam might absorb the sound a bit.
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Post by pdf64 on Feb 12, 2024 19:13:48 GMT -5
“I think something made out of a more solid material might even be a better alternative as I think the Styrofoam might absorb the sound a bit.” Yes, styrofoam will affect higher frequencies only, lower frequencies will pass through it. I suggest to try something much more solid and dense, eg 3/4” plywood, solid wood board.
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Post by chucksmi on Feb 16, 2024 11:21:26 GMT -5
Cool topic. Yes a lot of sound comes out the back. It's really dependent on the venue and the stage setup. When I use a *real* amp live - which is more and more infrequent since moving to Fractals, how we set it up and mike it will vary depending on the venue, the setlist, etc. For a large stage where I run say, my DR with all the throttles pushed forward we'll put the amp behind the band facing backwards mic'ed up. This adds ambience and helps control the stage volume. Generally on a bigger stage you have a guitar monitor or your monitor mix will have a lot of you in it. This BTW is a fairly common practice for large outdoor stages. At a mid-sized venue I prefer a traditional backline and if balls out is required a baffle is placed in front of the amp. For a club or smaller venue, I leave about foot between the amp and the wall and always have the amp off the floor. The wall is all the reflector you need. I don't use a baffle at small venues because of dead spots that can be created by out-of-phase reflections. If you project up you get the bounce back down and that will generally be somewhat of-of-phase for some frequencies. The best advice I can give for home or small clubs where you're not mic'ed is get the amp up off the floor and slightly away from the wall. For big shows, I don't really care, that's Mike's (soundman) job and he's danged good at it. I just follow his instructions, shut up and play my guitar. Seems to have worked out OK so far. Chuck
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Tom B.
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Post by Tom B. on Feb 20, 2024 20:37:49 GMT -5
Years ago there was a product called Sound Enhancer don't know how the company is doing. My son built me a similar one from looking at the photos and it works well. I wouldn't want to haul it around but it's fun to use at home.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 21, 2024 9:49:10 GMT -5
Years ago there was a product called Sound Enhancer don't know how the company is doing. My son built me a similar one from looking at the photos and it works well. I wouldn't want to haul it around but it's fun to use at home. I just mic the rear of the obenback cab and save the weight. That and room ribbon are my "normal" personal guitar tone for recording more often than not.
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