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Post by reverendrob on Feb 27, 2024 22:57:00 GMT -5
Someone needed to tell him to stop.
This is EMBARASSING (cut straight to the performance, the interview ain't bad...but...ye gods. Linked to the start of the song "performance.")
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Post by matryx81 on Feb 28, 2024 12:21:52 GMT -5
Will you tell me what's bad about it?
(If we count Police performances, I have seen the guy 5 times in concert. You could say I am a nerd about at least some of his musical pursuits, but I have a hunch as to what some of this criticism involves. I have no plans to see him again in concert either.)
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 28, 2024 18:03:01 GMT -5
Will you tell me what's bad about it? (If we count Police performances, I have seen the guy 5 times in concert. You could say I am a nerd about at least some of his musical pursuits, but I have a hunch as to what some of this criticism involves. I have no plans to see him again in concert either.) His voice is SHOT. Like beyond shot. Not just old man. GONE.
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Post by matryx81 on Feb 28, 2024 18:24:35 GMT -5
I suspect this trouble came in the last 7 or so years when tunes like Synchronicity II finally got a key change. I think at this point all of his old tunes have had that modification (the one in the video was dropped 3 semi-tones).
To my ears he did a good job of embracing the husk for years, but I wonder now if he has lost enough high-end on his range that it's more of a juggling act to figure that out.
His voice now is one reason I won't see him again (the other being setlist, as I doubt he will play anything else I would want to see).
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 28, 2024 19:12:32 GMT -5
For what I could endure, it sounded like a couch noodling effort, like he was working the song out.
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Post by argo on Feb 28, 2024 20:55:02 GMT -5
For what I could endure, it sounded like a couch noodling effort, like he was working the song out. Right, Its hard for some singers/voices to go half throttle. The real test would be if he tried to belt it out and failed.
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Post by ninworks on Feb 28, 2024 21:15:57 GMT -5
McCartney has no voice left either. It's to the point I am embarrased for him.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 29, 2024 4:12:05 GMT -5
For what I could endure, it sounded like a couch noodling effort, like he was working the song out. It's like he wasn't honestly trying - I don't know why he even did. If they were "examining a part of the song" sure, butcher it. But...a ...D list full performance...blah.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 29, 2024 4:12:23 GMT -5
McCartney has no voice left either. It's to the point I am embarresed for him. Yea, same. And Sir Paul has NO need for cash.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 29, 2024 8:50:05 GMT -5
There's a scene in the documentary of the making of "We Are The World" where Dylan is up for his part. He just kind of looks lost in his own Dylan mind, whisper-mumbling the line. Stevie Wonder jumps in and takes him to a piano and "teaches" Dylan the part in a Dylan-esque voice, lol. Maybe Rick Beato could've come to the rescue and done the same with Sting. 😆
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Post by jellybones on Feb 29, 2024 10:25:07 GMT -5
Somewhere at the three-way intersection of I Still Want to Perform x There's Still Good Money to be Made So Nobody On My Team Tells Me Any Differently x Hey, I Still Got It! (faulty self-awareness)
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 29, 2024 10:45:47 GMT -5
I listened all the way through and conclude there was little effort put into it, vocally speaking. My guess is that this isn't an accurate representation of his vocal range.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 29, 2024 11:20:09 GMT -5
There's a scene in the documentary of the making of "We Are The World" where Dylan is up for his part. He just kind of looks lost in his own Dylan mind, whisper-mumbling the line. Stevie Wonder jumps in and takes him to a piano and "teaches" Dylan the part in a Dylan-esque voice, lol. Maybe Rick Beato could've come to the rescue and done the same with Sting. 😆 Yea, I saw that part, it was....sad.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 29, 2024 11:28:15 GMT -5
There's a scene in the documentary of the making of "We Are The World" where Dylan is up for his part. He just kind of looks lost in his own Dylan mind, whisper-mumbling the line. Stevie Wonder jumps in and takes him to a piano and "teaches" Dylan the part in a Dylan-esque voice, lol. Maybe Rick Beato could've come to the rescue and done the same with Sting. 😆 Yea, I saw that part, it was....sad. I didn't find it particularly sad, but more of a confirmation that Dylan is a little, uh, "spectrum-y".
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 29, 2024 11:55:07 GMT -5
I did not make it to the chorus.
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Post by reverendrob on Mar 1, 2024 9:24:13 GMT -5
I did not make it to the chorus. I sat through it..twice. It hurt.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 1, 2024 10:28:36 GMT -5
I did not make it to the chorus. I sat through it..twice. It hurt. "Hurt", or "Stung"? 😆
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Mar 1, 2024 12:01:50 GMT -5
That sounds a lot like me singing, which is why I don't. Sting doesn't need the money, either. He is earning $5K every day just from Diddy's sample of EBYT. He is estimated at $300 million net.
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Post by oldfartbassplayrwalt on Mar 1, 2024 18:26:15 GMT -5
didn't Martin Short accuse him of murdering his neighbor tenant?
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 2, 2024 13:06:52 GMT -5
That kind of stuff doesn't bug me.
If great uncle Clyde wants to get up and dance at the wedding he won't dance as well as he did when he was young, but so what? Let him enjoy himself in his old age, as long as he doesn't break his hip. A guy like Paul McCartney probably wouldn't know what to do in life without music. All that money, but he isn't going to find something else to do with his time. They don't seem to be trying to act like they're 26 again (*cough* Madonna *cough*), they're just trying to stay active with music.
I think it would be less irritating if we thought of it as a great musician winding down and still having fun. Instead nostalgia wants them to be at their peak, or not be there at all. Not to mention some who want them to be the saviors when current music is so boring. I guess they're a bit like actors in that regard. Stop hoping the old actor coming out of retirement will save the music business. It isn't their fault there aren't young actors who could be as good as they were in their prime.
I do get annoyed with how much the Robert Plant/Allison Krause stuff gets praised. It isn't bad, but it is just really boring. Why do people obsess over it...?
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 2, 2024 14:04:02 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the Plant/Krause collaboration much but think the odd pairing makes them an "item", much like a Hollywood celebrity odd couple. I think Krause is an incredible vocalist/musician and Plant is, well, Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin. I need to give their stuff a longer listen.
I wonder if the Sting/Rick Beato thing was live streamed or if it was pre-recorded. If the latter I could see Sting calling Beato and saying "Hey mate, why'd you include that part?"
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Post by LTB on Mar 2, 2024 15:28:03 GMT -5
I liked a video with Plant/Krause. Thought they did quite well there at least on the one I saw.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 2, 2024 19:33:02 GMT -5
Yeah, it isn't bad or offensive. My point was that it is kinda boring, and emblematic of how we seem to keep waiting for older artists to save the industry.
Another example of how the biggest thing to come out of the Grammys this past year was Tracy Chapman doing a duet with someone who covered her 40 year old song. Don't get me wrong, it was kinda cool... but when a fun trip out of retirement blows everyone out of the water who is supposedly in their prime, that's a problem. We shouldn't put the pressure on older artists to keep stuff together. Let them do silver years sorts of things.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Mar 4, 2024 10:34:13 GMT -5
I listened all the way through and conclude there was little effort put into it, vocally speaking. My guess is that this isn't an accurate representation of his vocal range. I agree. I believe Sting has earned the right to sit in a casual setting and discuss anything he wants in any way he deems comfortable and convenient.
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Post by revtones on Mar 4, 2024 21:50:22 GMT -5
Sting has cred.
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Post by professor on Mar 19, 2024 9:55:20 GMT -5
I liked The Police but that was, what, 40 years ago? Since then he has always struck me as being insufferable.
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Post by Lesterstrat on Mar 19, 2024 10:53:24 GMT -5
Add him to the list:
Paul Stanley Vince Neal Jon Bon Jovi
Etc...
But hey, Willy still has it! At least what he's always had, or not. lol
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Post by markfromhawaii on Mar 20, 2024 15:02:55 GMT -5
The older I get the more I’ve come to admit that I just can’t hit certain notes. That, and a water bottle always at hand to clear the ol’ throat between a few songs is a necessity. My wife teaches voice and she’s a stickler for warm up exercises. Good practice for me and probably most singers beyond their prime.
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