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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 9, 2024 16:16:45 GMT -5
I was listening to a podcast and they were talking about the price of a cup of coffee at a lot of coffee shops. I don't buy coffee by the cup very often. Part of the reason is that I make coffee at home that I really like, and I get it good enough for me to really enjoy by having a good coffee grinder. Buying that thing has prevented so many impulse coffee purchases where I didn't touch my coffee at home because I didn't like it or feeling a need to go get "good" coffee it has probably saved me 10x the investment in the thing. I also bit the bullet a while ago and bought a high quality water bottle because (for reasons I don't fully understand) the nice ones don't get that musty "old camping gear" smell nearly as quickly. I almost completely stopped buying bottled water (tap water where I live is drinkable but kinda unpleasant without any filter), and it has saved me money as well, probably well beyond the 10x mark.
Then, there are the purchases where you buy some fancy tool, appliance or vehicle and think you're going to start a small business and make money hand over fist, but really all you did was buy yourself a fancy toy.
What have you bought that saved you money?
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Post by windmill on Mar 9, 2024 19:14:20 GMT -5
Hope this is what you mean
Many years ago I used to buy cheap can openers, they were poorly made and were only used 4-5 times before the parts would go out of alignment and they stopped working. They were cheap and available at every supermarket so we kept buying them.
One day I was in local hardware store and saw a can opener "as used by NASA astronauts" it was about 15 times the cost of tne cheap supermarket ones but I had the money in my pocket (unusual at that time) and bought one.
It is still in the kitchen drawer, probably 30 years old now, still works as well as the first time I used it.
And here is the lesson learnt - Quality pays for itself.
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Post by Pinetree on Mar 10, 2024 8:41:51 GMT -5
My former father-in-law would come across something that was 50% off so he'd buy all of them, going on and on about how much money he saved.
In my opinion he could have saved a lot more by not buying any of the junk that he didn't need..
So one day I called him on it and he said "I may be crazy, but it's my money".
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 10, 2024 12:45:01 GMT -5
Yeah windmill, that's a great example. I've kicked myself many times after buying cheap stuff that breaks and finally buying the expensive version and being done having to buy stuff. Had I done that to begin with I would've saved a lot of money.
The key seems to be separating yourself from the lizard brain reward parts of money management. That can opener probably didn't give a dopamine hit, but buying the whole shelf of something because it is on sale does. I tend to not get much pleasure from kitchen items, so it takes a bit for me to spend the money, and that is probably why it took so long for me to get a good coffee grinder and water bottle. When I was buying up some basics for woodworking tools I realized that the cheap stuff isn't just not at nice... it often is just not functional at all. I've been this way at work, too. My nice radius blocks have paid for themselves in saved time, but it took me years to invest in them.
It does get annoying not being able to buy cheap, though. At some point this week I'm actually going to have to google spatulas to find one that will work. Bought a new one and it won't even flip a dang pancake or an egg. Old one was fine, but is shedding plastic pieces in a way I'm not comfortable with. I refuse to keep buying trash that I'll have to toss, but dang... spatulas? Really?
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Post by hushnel on Mar 10, 2024 15:49:44 GMT -5
You save money when you get the good stuff, occasionally the best just exceeds the point of demising returns.
Dad had to go to France to clear up a mess. He brought home a 14 inch Victorinox chief knife for me.
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Post by windmill on Mar 10, 2024 19:35:08 GMT -5
Had the same problem with hammers. Local weekend market was selling old wooden handle hammers for $2 each. Bought one and after a couple of uses the handle broke. i would buy another, same thing. After about 5 times I went and bought a steel Estwing hammer. Haven't bought another hammer since. While the thread is about saving money, the other side of the coin, so to speak, is the time you save by having something that does the job when you need it. When the cheap stuff breaks it means you can't do what you wanted do at that time, causing much annoyance ! HTH
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Post by Leftee on Mar 10, 2024 19:48:04 GMT -5
Tools can be a great example. I’ve become a fan of Fiskars tools/implents since I bought one of their splitting mauls a few years ago. Not the cheapest, but a superior example. Since then it’s been Fiskars tools, when they have what I need.
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Post by guildx700 on Mar 10, 2024 20:17:28 GMT -5
Food, beverage, vitamins, paper products,consumables and such, most often the larger pack sizes are quite a bit cheaper per "each", and most stores have the per each unit price on a tag on the shelf.
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Post by ninworks on Mar 11, 2024 5:04:35 GMT -5
What have you bought that saved you money? Nothing. Every time I spent money I had less than I did before then. The only way I ever "saved" money was when I didn't spend it.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Mar 11, 2024 7:58:59 GMT -5
I've had a lot of times where I've gotten interested in something (brewing beer, boating, camping), gone out and bought older used but really cheap equipment, and then ended up upgrading later. I now subscribe to the "buy once, cry once" theory. If I'm gonna buy something, I spend time researching. In my experience, there's almost always a qaulity/cost graph that is very steep at lower prices and flattens out hard to the top end prices. In other words. spending more if you're considering buying entry level (used or low end new) almost always yields a significant benefit. At some point, you reach a point where the law of diminishing returns kicks in and spending a lot more yields only a marginal increase in value.
I try to buy at the top end of the steep part of the curve, just before it flattens out.
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Post by hushnel on Mar 11, 2024 12:10:26 GMT -5
My home is sitting on the Ichetucknee aquifer , I had a new well drilled when I purchased the house, the guy went down 80 feet to get the best water. It’s the best water I’ve ever had, my tap water is spring water and goes for a dollar a bottle at the stores. At flea markets I always keep my eyes open for old tools, the rust doesn’t bother me, I can make them like new but why bother they’re tools. I have an anvil I can’t even budge it, it sits next to the forge.
My back packing tent is about 15 years old, ,made by Big Agnes, it shows no sign of all the use it’s gotten.
Another thing I’ve snatched up are old 50s and 1960s Singer Sewing Machines. Nothing made today, for the home, can touch these old sewing machines.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 11, 2024 23:18:30 GMT -5
Tools can be a great example. I’ve become a fan of Fiskars tools/implents since I bought one of their splitting mauls a few years ago. Not the cheapest, but a superior example. Since then it’s been Fiskars tools, when they have what I need. Saw a Fiskars machete at Ross for Less a few weeks ago for $10. Almost bought it... had no idea what I'd do with it. Thought it might be nice to have for a misbehaving guitar every once in a while.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 11, 2024 23:21:32 GMT -5
Food, beverage, vitamins, paper products,consumables and such, most often the larger pack sizes are quite a bit cheaper per "each", and most stores have the per each unit price on a tag on the shelf. Speaking of paper products, during covid when that stuff was scarce, I got in the habit of cloth napkins and using cheap washcloths with a small bucket of soapy water instead of always reaching for paper towels. I think I've saved a small fortune in the past few years since the price of paper towels didn't really come down. The bulk packs make us feel like the supply is infinite and we don't think about how much money we're spending every time we sop up some spilled milk.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 11, 2024 23:24:25 GMT -5
Oh, here's another one.
With a lot of personal care products, the good stuff lasts longer. For a long time this was especially true of shampoo... buy the expensive bottle ("salon grade") and it will last so long you'll get off cheaper than the grocery store stuff, and have a higher quality product to boot. I don't think this is as true for men now, since there's an emerging market for mid-priced quasi-boutique shampoos which suit me quite well. I have kinda sensitive skin and buy the expensive face wash, and it is the same thing. It hurts when I have to buy a new bottle, but I can go so long between purchases I can't even remember the last time I bought any. A year maybe?
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Post by mikem on Mar 17, 2024 10:12:27 GMT -5
Coffee shops: I almost never stop at coffee shops/DD,Starbucks, etc. I do however get a coffee every now and then at my local 24hr Cumberland Farms (a big one for $1.29) when I go fishing at 4:30am (so not to wake up my wife while making it at home.)
I always made lunch while at work...never ordered out.
There were fellow workers that went out to lunch or ordered out every day. They also showed up to work with a Starbucks/DD coffee in the morning.
Come to think of it, those same people (mentioned above) were always complaining that they were always broke - go figure.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Mar 18, 2024 9:08:06 GMT -5
What about credit cards with benefits....cash back, miles, etc.? I got a cash back card a couple years ago. We put pretty much everything on that card and pay it off every month. I've earned over $8000 by buying things I'd buy anyway.
But am I screwing over the economy by doing so? I saw a blurb on the net talking about buying with cash vs a card. The gist was that, for every purchase with a card, some of the money spent goes to the credit card company. If you look at a dollar, over a series of purchases, more and more of it ends up in the hands of the credit card companies. If you make the same series of purchases, that doesn't happen.
Then you think...well, what about sales tax. Unless you're buying food or something not subject to taxes, after a series of purchases and lot ends up in the hands of the government too.
Then that always gets me thinking about how much we really pay in taxes...people think about income tax, maybe property tax, but when you think about how much stuff is taxed, what's the real percentage we pay in taxes per year? In addition to above, there's sales tax, vehicle registration, gas tax, taxes on utilites, etc. This list goes on and on.
Sorry, rambling train of though stuff there. Carry on....
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Post by professor on Mar 19, 2024 9:22:14 GMT -5
Bicycle pumps. Almost all are probably made at the same Chinese factory and always fail in the same way when the the flimsy crimped flange that holds the air hose onto the pump gives way. A small hose clamp can work as a temporary fix, but I found a sturdy German pump that doesn't have that flaw.
Bigger picture is using Amazon to deliver things I used to drive to buy. Whatever I'm paying for Prime is nothing compared to the expenses of driving.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Mar 19, 2024 16:01:09 GMT -5
I go to Costco liquors and spend $600 and that saves me about the same amount over the next few months, as they are close to half my local liquor store. But while at Costco I buy bulk items that just may not be smart decisions. I have a few years worth of Frank's Red Hot and L&P Worcestershire sauce because I couldn't resist the "deal."
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Mar 20, 2024 11:39:11 GMT -5
I go to Costco liquors and spend $600 and that saves me about the same amount over the next few months, as they are close to half my local liquor store. But while at Costco I buy bulk items that just may not be smart decisions. I have a few years worth of Frank's Red Hot and L&P Worcestershire sauce because I couldn't resist the "deal." We are very selective with our Costco purchases. Some things aren't cheaper and some come in quantities that just result in waste. I have gotten some great deals there though. I have a SS pots n pans set that is amazing and about half the price it would have been otherwise. Also have a DeWalt tool set (a billion sockets, ratchets, extensions, combination wrenches, driver bits (hex, torx, philips etc) plus metric and regulars allan wrenches. It was $90 and we've used the hell out of it doing automotive work, repairing my snowblower etc.
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