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Post by Ryder on Mar 9, 2024 19:47:44 GMT -5
I didn’t think I’d buy a squier, and I looked a lot for this one. Finally found one at Music Go Round.
Mint condition but badly in need of a setup…which I did.
it sounds and plays surprisingly well!
Tomorrow I’ll have more time to play it. I’ve been looking at the Vintera II jazzmaster but didn’t want to spend that much. This one has the chrome hardware with the desert sand color. Gold anodized pickguard.
Very nice Looking!
7lb. 4 oz. which is great for my old back…or just picking it up.
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Post by Laker on Mar 9, 2024 20:24:16 GMT -5
What’s the difference between Squire Strats and Mexican Strats? I spent a few years in a group where our guitar player made his “taco” Strat (we would tease him with that) really sing.
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Post by reverendrob on Mar 9, 2024 23:23:03 GMT -5
What’s the difference between Squire Strats and Mexican Strats? I spent a few years in a group where our guitar player made his “taco” Strat (we would tease him with that) really sing. Going to say this much - current *higher end* Squiers are definitely on par with the Mexis and the Americans save the nitro at this point. Just like the Mexis were pretty fast. Ironically that fact is what got me to start buying Gibsons - when I couldn't get a baseline MIA Jaguar that had the proper features ...for less than a mid-range Gibson back in '15 or so ....because my Squiers and Mexis were so damned good. The damn burst on the Squier offsets with the Mascis Jazzmaster, a phenomenal piece of kit. I loved mine so much I had it refinned to nitro purple overspray (because I hate hate hate OLY white) |
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Post by Ryder on Mar 10, 2024 16:15:40 GMT -5
I’d like to change the volume and tone knobs, pickup covers, switch tip but can’t seem to find these items. This one didn’t come with a trem bar but I don’t usually use one.
It did come with a very used, G&C case. I wondered why the box was so heavy…I don’t play out anymore so I don’t really need it.
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Post by reverendrob on Mar 10, 2024 23:35:18 GMT -5
Vol+tone will be METRIC, I changed mine to .. speed knobs like I do on..everything.  Switchtip will likely be so as well. Trem bar I'd advise getting one - the Jazz/Jaguar trem is its own monster - you MAY love it. It's my favorite trem honestly. The Mascis also won for me as the early ones had VERY nice rosewood (they're not bad now, but...it actually reminded me of vintage for color and feel), and has NO skunk stripe. I hate skunk stripes on rosewood necks with a passion, as I started with pre-CBS Mustangs and a Hamer Standard from the 70s.  The purple refin is thin nitro so it has a few white spots coming through from the Oly White undercoat now which isn't bad. |
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Post by Ryder on Mar 11, 2024 8:10:38 GMT -5
Rob, that looks great! I don’t like Olympic white either.
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Post by Leftee on Mar 11, 2024 8:53:20 GMT -5
I have zero white guitars. Just sold my only black one.
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Post by chucksmi on Mar 11, 2024 11:40:52 GMT -5
Ah, yes, the crapshoot that is Squier.
So, depending on who built them they can be fabulous bargains (such as the Cortec ones) or unsuitable for firewood. I'm not sure what the business model dejour is for Squier, but often they bid them out in bulk to the low-cost region suppliers. There was no Squier factory, they were all third-party built (assumedly by the lowest bidder) and some were utter garbage. But, some were really, really nice. Moral of the story: Play it first.
I had a very, very early one that was built in Japan and honestly, it was epic. I gave it to my brother.
Chuck
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Post by Ryder on Mar 11, 2024 19:20:29 GMT -5
This is my first squier and I really like a lot about it.I don’t like trying to find parts for it. I know Fender parts won’t fit it.
Right now I’d like to get a set of locking tuners for it. Maybe some new knobs and switch tip.
The pickups sound real good. One issue is the middle position and the neck sound about the same.
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Post by reverendrob on Mar 12, 2024 5:03:10 GMT -5
Ah, yes, the crapshoot that is Squier. So, depending on who built them they can be fabulous bargains (such as the Cortec ones) or unsuitable for firewood. I'm not sure what the business model dejour is for Squier, but often they bid them out in bulk to the low-cost region suppliers. There was no Squier factory, they were all third-party built (assumedly by the lowest bidder) and some were utter garbage. But, some were really, really nice. Moral of the story: Play it first. I had a very, very early one that was built in Japan and honestly, it was epic. I gave it to my brother. Chuck The early MIJs were uniformly pretty good - the HIGH-end (Pro-tones) were decent. The MIMs were VERY good, as were the MIAs. Once they moved production to Indonesia for stuff (the VMs) things improved radically. Wasn't perfect but pound for pound was worth buying again. Cosmetics on burst wood..sucked...but...in terms of playability and sdoun. AOK. I love my Bass VI (and it intonates properly with stock bridge on a synth pickup!), Mustang, Jaguar, etc. They're like Epi now - price point is everything. |
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Post by bluzcat on Mar 12, 2024 21:12:37 GMT -5
I had a Pro Tone Strat that was nice- comparable to MIM to me, but it eventually went down the road. I play an Indonesian Precision in church and it is quite nice. It’s only quirk is it seems to have a soft neck as I have to adjust the truss rod quite often compared to my other instruments.
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Post by Ryder on Mar 15, 2024 14:50:49 GMT -5
I must say, the more I play this Indonesian made jazzmaster the more I like it. It seems to scratch my jazzmaster itch well.
I’ve only had one other and it was Mexican made. Sounded good but it was years ago so it’s hard to compare.
This one sounds great through my Princeton reverb and my dsl 1. Very good with pedals also. I’m surprised a little that these Fender designed pickups sound so good.
I think it’s a keeper!
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Post by reverendrob on Mar 16, 2024 9:10:33 GMT -5
I must say, the more I play this Indonesian made jazzmaster the more I like it. It seems to scratch my jazzmaster itch well. I’ve only had one other and it was Mexican made. Sounded good but it was years ago so it’s hard to compare. This one sounds great through my Princeton reverb and my dsl 1. Very good with pedals also. I’m surprised a little that these Fender designed pickups sound so good. I think it’s a keeper! My MIM Jaguar "looks" better than the Squiers. It doesn't play or sound better. |
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Post by Ryder on Mar 17, 2024 8:07:16 GMT -5
Rob, that’s very interesting. I’m having a hard time saying my Mexican Tele sounds better than my Squier jazzmaster!
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Post by reverendrob on Mar 17, 2024 8:34:07 GMT -5
Rob, that’s very interesting. I’m having a hard time saying my Mexican Tele sounds better than my Squier jazzmaster! I used to dream of my old main '64 L-serial Mustang that I had to sell when I first moved west - for 20 years. I looked for years to find it or the equivalent, and never found something close. I ended up with a 'it's a proper Mustang' '69RI MIJ that ..did the job, but..I still didn't stop dreaming of the old one. I ended up buying a MII Squier when they came out. It needed the bridge changed to a correct one (as it came with some el-cheapo monster, the only IMII squier that did), it has dismal cosmetic, but....it sounds and feels just like my old monster. I stopped dreaming about it, for < 300. |
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Post by Ryder on Apr 14, 2024 11:04:29 GMT -5
Finally found a trem bar for this guitar.
BUT,,,every time I use it, no matter how soft, it goes out of tune. I have rarely used a trem bar for this very reason.
Any suggestions?
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Post by reverendrob on Apr 14, 2024 19:06:42 GMT -5
It'll be a warble - think of it as a bigsby-level whammy not a Floyd.
It'll also be bridge-setup sensitive in the extreme.
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Post by 009 on Apr 15, 2024 7:27:31 GMT -5
I’d check the nut and see if there’s any binding/tightness of the individual strings. If so ,and you have some nut files, adjust where appropriate, then lube the nut slots. If you don’t have files, just lube the slots anyway — maybe you’ll get lucky; easy to do.
Maybe start a new thread; more eyes will look.
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Post by Ryder on Apr 15, 2024 7:33:24 GMT -5
Thanks 009, I’ll try that. No nut files but I can lube the slots. 40 weight?😅
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Post by Leftee on Apr 15, 2024 7:37:15 GMT -5
I’d stick the thread in the Workshop area.
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Post by 009 on Apr 15, 2024 10:06:17 GMT -5
Thanks 009, I’ll try that. No nut files but I can lube the slots. 40 weight?😅 Since the strings are different sizes, I recommend a multi-weight. 5W-30 should be perfect. |
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Post by Ryder on Apr 15, 2024 11:09:46 GMT -5
LOL, will do.
In fact, I did. Poured a quart over the nut slots! It's just so messy!
Actually, I used graphite dust. So I retune, play a little, use the bar a little. Still flat. Play some more, use the bar very little. Better...not as much out of tune. Same thing and it's getting better.
I'll keep doing this for today and see how it goes.
Thanks 009!!
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