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Post by cedarchoper58 on May 7, 2024 17:26:35 GMT -5
i have a 57 strat with original style fretts and a 62 strat with jumbos and the 57 is easier to bend. both have the trem barley decked but the 57 has 5 springs and the 62 has 3. any ideas why the 57 is easier to bend both have same strings thks
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Post by 009 on May 7, 2024 18:06:09 GMT -5
Differing fretboard radii?
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Post by cedarchoper58 on May 7, 2024 18:36:49 GMT -5
Differing fretboard radii? both 7.25" |
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Post by reverendrob on May 7, 2024 20:34:08 GMT -5
Individual guitars have character(istics) - it's not just specs.
Sometimes one fits your hand better and X is easier.
"easier to bend" isn't going to be quantifiable much of the time if strings are the same/tuning the same/scale length the same.
One of my Jaguars just..plays better, same specs, same everything, dialed in to the same setup numbers. Same strings.
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Post by DrKev on May 8, 2024 3:54:06 GMT -5
Could be fret height? Maybe lower frets result in more contact of your finger with the fret board which means more friction and therefore more resistance to bending? Different fingerboard woods and finish will make that difference bigger.
Other than that if they have identical setups, same string action and relief, same trem set up, same brand and gauge of strings, they should be identical.
It could also be utterly imaginary. Our brains are shockingly good at doing that. My anecdote/data point: My two Music Man guitars (Cutlass and Silhouette Special) slightly different neck thicknesses (consistent difference of 0.002" along the full length of both necks), and fret heights differ by 0.005". One has stainless frets, the other nickel silver. Both have rosewood boards. In my head they were always quite different in feel under the fingers but knowing that all sorts of things subconsciously bias our judgements, I wondered just how different they really were.
So, blindfold on, my wife handed me one guitar after the other, and going only on string feel I had to identify which guitar was which. I dialed in identical string action and neck relief. Identical floating trem setup but one has a heavy brass trem block and the other has super light aluminum block. Neck profiles are different at the nut but very similar from 5th to 7th fret up. My wife handed them to me with her hands in a specific locations so I couldn't guess from body shape or neck shape and would know where on the neck to play.
Friends, I got it wrong. Blindfold, I couldn't tell them apart. Differences that seemed so obvious to me before vanished when I didn't know which guitar I had in my hands. And now that I've done and failed that test, as someone who often plays with their eyes closed, I do sometimes forget which guitar I have in my hands until I look down.
Note: If you do this test yourself and you have two options to pick from, you have a 50/50 chance of correctly identifying the guitars even if there is no difference between them at all. So if you do get it right on the first try, do it few more times.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on May 8, 2024 7:23:47 GMT -5
If I was bored, I'd try to setup the 62 with 5 springs and make sure everything else was identical. The tightness of the 6 trem mount screws, float height, action, neck relief, etc. I'd also compare the string height clearance at the nut. My perception with my guitars is, all things being equal I find string bending easier on fixed/blocked bridges than the ones set to float. When you bend a string on a guitar set to float, the trem block and bridge lifts. In theory, you have to pull the string even more to achieve the target pitch, lifting the trem block even more. That will momentarily affect your string length intonation and string height. Whether these tiny variances are enough to be perceived, who knows.
Lower string height at the nut makes for easier chording, but makes bending (particularly between the nut and the 5th fret) more difficult, in my experience.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on May 8, 2024 11:35:21 GMT -5
What Rob said... could be a million different things. Even neck back profile can change it because you're anchoring the back of your hand in a different way on the different guitars. If jumbos feel harder to bend, you could have a more aggressive grip with that because you've grown used to feeling some wood under your fingertips. You could be pressing in towards the neck more than up as you bend.
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