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Post by Auf Kiltre on Apr 5, 2020 9:07:49 GMT -5
What do you sit on? I recall a thread on the FDP discussing the same, don't remember any recommendations other than using a drummer's stool. I think it's time for something comfortable. The desk bench type chair I use is quite creaky when track acoustic guitar and pretty uncomfortable.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 5, 2020 13:30:30 GMT -5
I use a Tama Ergo Rider drum stool. Super cushy, rotates, height adjustable, and it has an adjustable back rest. I've had this thing for more than 15 years now and it's still in brand-new shape because it's designed for heavy road use. Having never left the house, the worst treatment it's received has been dust settling on it. And me settling on it. It's the original style without the later compressed gas height-adjust lever. Those things do leak and wear out over time.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Apr 5, 2020 15:25:47 GMT -5
Thanks Peegoo. Yowza, those Tamas are expensive!
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Post by tahitijack on Apr 5, 2020 23:09:17 GMT -5
Gator Frameworks Guitar Seat. Its comfortable, light weight and portable. I've had it a couple off months but sit on it about 4 hours for rehearsals. So far so good an not expensive.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 6, 2020 1:13:41 GMT -5
Thanks Peegoo. Yowza, those Tamas are expensive! It was $150 when I bought it new long ago. That was a chunk of cash at the time, but looking back, this has been as good an investment as any really good guitar. I use it practically every day. Another good option is a height-adjustable swivel office chair without arms (or removable arms) and a low backrest, like this: www.target.com/p/mesh-office-chair-black-room-essentials-8482/-/A-51121198
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 6, 2020 9:11:24 GMT -5
If you're looking for something other than drum thrones, check out the options for drafting stools. They'll sit higher and have foot rests. I have one at my work bench, and consequently have really gotten used to how they feel when playing guitar, also. Bar stools would be the cheapest thing. Office chairs can sometimes work well if the arm rests are removable. Having an armrest in your way might be negligible at first, but in the long haul lacking free movement in your fretting arm elbow can cause bad technique and even some serious wrist pain.
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Post by Duke on Apr 6, 2020 11:35:42 GMT -5
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Apr 6, 2020 20:56:17 GMT -5
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Post by tahitijack on Apr 8, 2020 9:57:02 GMT -5
That's the one. Thank you Duke.
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Post by Duke on Apr 8, 2020 14:04:52 GMT -5
My pleasure!
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Apr 9, 2020 0:27:48 GMT -5
My friends: here is where I can contribute good info being a drummer. I have had many inquiries on this subject by many musicians. I may get a little technical, but please bear with me.
There are currently three (3) basic styles of seats, regardless of the manufacturer. The round style seat, motorcycle style seat, and the tractor style seat. Each manufacturer may use different terminology. (I prefer the round seat for a number of reasons) Basically the "tractor" seat comes with the back rest built in (as designed). Depending on the other seat models, you can get back rests for all of the seats as an add on accessory. Some people get the back rest, but don't utilize it. They want it as an option, if needed.
Regardless of what you may think; the cushioning on the seat is very important, especially if you have to sit on it for more than an hour at a time. So when you check them out, it is a serious consideration.
Most of the "upscale" models have a solid folding base (for transport) with a "threaded" height adjustment system (simple). I agree with Peegoo, there are too many issues with the hydraulic systems right now.
Depending on your playing position, you can quickly change height if needed, especially if you change guitars, as part of your routine. If you have multiple players using the seat; all the more reason. I recommend that the seat has the ability to pivot. It just makes life easier if you have to turn to adjust an amp or mixer on stage within your reach. Also factor in the ability to pivot if you are using an effects pedal board.
Regarding bar stools or regular chairs; there are draw backs with both (if available at all).
Cost is another subject. I take the position; if it is for my comfort, I have no problem spending the extra money
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Apr 9, 2020 10:10:36 GMT -5
I received the PDP 700 Series Drum Throne and it's far better than the torture bench I was sitting on. I have a small old desk my dad used for business that I use for recording, laptop, business, etc. The lowest setting of the drum throne works fine for that. One notch up works well for playing guitar. The cushion isn't all that soft for the BOMB (Boney Old Man Butt), but it'll do.
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Apr 9, 2020 11:44:06 GMT -5
PDP is a subsidiary of Drum Workshop (DW). Their 700 series series is a mid-level, quality product.
Here is a drummers trick for the "BOMB" issue. Locate a "seat cover" for your drum throne, (I found a bar stool cover that works) and find a piece of foam rubber (or similar material) that's meets your comfort level. Insert that material inside the seat cover, and put the cover on your drum throne. No glue or tape necessary; Instant relief!
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Apr 9, 2020 13:51:34 GMT -5
Thanks Griz, that may be a future consideration.
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Post by GmanNJ on Apr 10, 2020 11:05:24 GMT -5
Cost is another subject. I take the position; if it is for my comfort, I have no problem spending the extra money amen to that..... and like Peegoo said if its built well it will last many years bite the bullet and get what will last and is comfortable
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Post by jazzguy on Apr 10, 2020 15:02:31 GMT -5
my pop always told me to get the best stuff I could afford as there's less chance of necessitating replacement down the road.
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Post by Fat Tony on May 14, 2020 11:53:27 GMT -5
The nickname I assigned myself (Fat Tony) describes me to a T. (get it, "T" for Tony? Nevermind) When I get on a scale, it says, "Only one person at a time, please."
To paraphrase the great bluesman, Willie Dixon: I'm built for comfort, I ain't built for speed.
I prefer the Gibraltar Oversize Motorcycle Seat with backrest. It is MY go to option, but I also own several other options.
I have bought four of the Gator Guitar Seat and Stand. One for me and three for gifts. I "loan" the Gator I kept to my guitarist/band leader at rehearsals. I can't get my fat XXX on the seat...about 3 inches too tall.
The On Stage Throne is pretty decent, but the little round seat had difficult times with my rather large "seat" and I certainly enjoyed breaks to get the feeling back in the legs. It is also slightly heavy. (Musician's Friend stock: 452071). I still have four of the On Stage Throne. But they are a hassle to transport unless it is your responsibility is to set up your own stool.
Of all the various thrones, those "el cheapo stools" from the mega box store company are the ones that I give a thumbs down....I think "more" of my posterior than those little things, but I have six of them for "sound for hire gigs" where there are multiple solo performers. (Hootenanny anyone?)
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on May 14, 2020 18:49:59 GMT -5
Just like with good tools: buy once, cry once.
Good to hear from you, Tony!
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on May 15, 2020 2:32:00 GMT -5
Tony: That Gibraltar seat you described is an "EXCELLENT" product. I myself prefer the "round" seats; I tried using the motorcycle seat at a gig once (drummer). While playing, I had to stand up quickly (equipment malfunction), and when I sat down again the seat had rotated slightly. Yes, You guessed it! The motorcycle seat and "My" seat did not line up quite the way it should have. I was walking kind of funny for the rest of the night. Oh Well! I learned! Never used a motorcycle again!
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Post by LTB on May 15, 2020 6:15:24 GMT -5
I use either a drum throne without a back or my computer chair
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Post by Auf Kiltre on May 15, 2020 11:25:57 GMT -5
I did as earlier suggested and get a seat cover for the PDP drum throne and think this will work fine for my intended purpose (recording tracks). That said, I find myself slouching in the white leather lazy boy for the typical daily noodlefest.
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on May 18, 2020 11:09:40 GMT -5
My friend: I'm glad the "seat cover" suggestion worked out for you. However! If "Lazy Boy" ever makes a drum throne, you know "I" will be the first in line to get one. I love my Lazy Boy recliner!! (Which is located in the "Grizbear Cave"; it adds a new dimension to hibernation.)
To follow up on the seat cover concept: Check out any of the "Hobby" supply stores for foam cushioning; you will find 2ft X 2ft squares of different densities, thickness', and types. I use a piece of "Egg-Crate" foam, topped with a 1/2 inch thick piece of standard foam. It was simple to trim the 2X2 into a 16 inch circle, to put inside the seat cover. My "B-O-M-B" problem was solved, and my biological seat thanked me!
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Post by snakeboy on May 28, 2020 7:09:03 GMT -5
I pondered getting a more comfortable guitar chair for a while, and ended up with a Roc-N-Soc drum throne about a month ago.
I should have bought one of these years ago.....it's so comfortable. I ended up getting a backrest and footrest for it, and now it's perfect.
Highly recommended.
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Post by twangmeister on Jul 23, 2020 23:33:48 GMT -5
I had a great tall metal stool I found at the curbside of my street in NC. It was identical to the ones in school shop circa 1963. I spray painted it black and hauled it to most of the concerts I did from 2012-2016. After I retired from the jazz band and work I gave it away,
Currently I use a low stool that is made out of rusty bicycle rims and has a padded seat. They seem to be from some quaint-named defunct bistro. My wife is great for finding nifty offset items.
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