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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 8, 2020 14:51:16 GMT -5
Not optimal since it mounts on the side instead straight facing, but it does capture the whole porch and approach. The audio from porch to app is pretty good but overdriven and very distorted from app to door. Its a bit better when off wifi and just via cellular. When pressing the doorbell the button illuminates and spins like its waking up and the bell rings maybe 4 seconds later. Subsequent rings respond quicker but doesn't respond to the anxious consecutive pushes. All technical support pursuits get mired in a "the product sucks/its your router" mess.
Not overly impressed.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 8, 2020 15:02:22 GMT -5
I have a Ring doorbell and don't have any of those issues. Ringing it is instant. the audio picks up a lot of ambient noise, but that's because, well, it just picks up the noise that's there.
I'm not sure what you mean about how it's mounted, mine sits flat where the doorbell used to be. Connected the doorbell wires to it so it keeps itself charged without needing any attention.
My biggest gripe is the sensitivity of it. You can make it more or less sensitive, but when I make it more sensitive, it picks up every car that drives by. This is New York, that's a lot even on my little side street. When I lower it, people can get all the way up to my stoop, drop something off, and I never even get an alert, or if I do, I only get them having walked away.
there should be some kind of in between or "city" setting on these things.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 8, 2020 15:09:23 GMT -5
By side mount I mean if you are facing my door the ring (and previous doorbell) in on your left.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 8, 2020 16:39:24 GMT -5
I’m confused...isn’t everyone’s doorbell on the side of their door?
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 8, 2020 16:57:05 GMT -5
My front door is flanked by garage wall and a bedroom wall.  |
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 8, 2020 17:00:18 GMT -5
Ohhh. I see what you are saying now (obviously, you included a picture lol). I can see why it’s less than ideal in that spot.
Never saw a doorbell positioned like that.
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 17:32:53 GMT -5
Mike, you can block out the street with zone control.
doorbell cam/settings/motion settings/motion zones
In there you can draw a window to outline desired motion zones. Multiple zones if desired. Then you can crank the motion sensitivity so it catches even a cat, or set it to people only.
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 17:38:50 GMT -5
Auf, the audio is tricky. I don't think there is volume control for the speaker on the doorbell for voice volume. There is for the external doorbell volume that ringers hear. You might see if there is a mic volume control on your phone, or an app to reduce mic volume.
As for camera position, aside from running a new wire down from the attic, you could extend the existing wires and hide them in a conduit, so you could place the camera where desired.
Also, the doorbell comes with a camera angler, but I don't think that would solve your problem.
Here are some micro conduits that might help you extend your leads to relocate the camera.
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Post by Leftee on Jun 8, 2020 17:39:55 GMT -5
What about a cat burglar?
Like, who steals cats, any ways?
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 17:45:57 GMT -5
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 8, 2020 18:07:23 GMT -5
Mike, you can block out the street with zone control.
doorbell cam/settings/motion settings/motion zones
In there you can draw a window to outline desired motion zones. Multiple zones if desired. Then you can crank the motion sensitivity so it catches even a cat, or set it to people only.
The problem is, I’m so close to the street that doing that allows people to get too close to the house without it activating. I have the curb set as the end of my zone, that keeps most cars from setting it off (some large trucks still do), but the trade off that it takes too long to click on from Motion. Making it a larger zone works, but then I have the car issue. |
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 18:26:05 GMT -5
Hum, probably about the only thing you could do is get a floodlight cam, or spotlight cam, and mount it up high, like 9-10 feet. That would allow you to angel it down a bit more, and get a wider zone, vs a straight on shot you're getting from the doorbell cam. Alternately, you could have corner cams, and angle them to point half parallel to the front.
I have 6 cams, and a very extensive ring security system. I love it. It works very well. I haven't used the audio much on any of it. I mainly just monitor alerts, and use live view to see what's going on outside my cave.
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Post by 009 on Jun 8, 2020 18:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by LTB on Jun 8, 2020 18:48:36 GMT -5
Mike, you can block out the street with zone control. We are 35 Ft. from and 10 Ft. above the street with the first 20 feet going uphill with steps. I have mine zoned and set for 15 Ft. in which no one gets onto the front porch undetected that is covered and the only cars it picks up are tall vans, Mailtruck, and Garbage trucks, oh and my wife doing her gardening  . I like our ring but like others said it seems to work better when we are away from home and using cellphones. The picture is always good and clear, sound as clear as well. Sometimes it gets irritating when at home taking time to connect and answer. It is also cool to be on the Neighborhood Ring Network where people can report and show the video of people stealing packages, trying to break into cars etc plus the Police get this information also which helps law enforcement to catch the perpetrator/s |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 8, 2020 19:45:58 GMT -5
Also, the doorbell comes with a camera angler, but I don't think that would solve your problem.
I actually installed the angle mount and while not optimal it does give me a pretty good view of the porch and the approach.  |
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 19:48:39 GMT -5
Mike, you can block out the street with zone control. We are 35 Ft. from and 10 Ft. above the street with the first 20 feet going uphill with steps. I have mine zoned and set for 15 Ft. in which no one gets onto the front porch undetected that is covered and the only cars it picks up are tall vans, Mailtruck, and Garbage trucks, oh and my wife doing her gardening . I like our ring but like others said it seems to work better when we are away from home and using cellphones. The picture is always good and clear, sound as clear as well. Sometimes it gets irritating when at home taking time to connect and answer. It is also cool to be on the Neighborhood Ring Network where people can report and show the video of people stealing packages, trying to break into cars etc plus the Police get this information also which helps law enforcement to catch the perpetrator/s
If you're using your cell phones to monitor at home, do you have your homes wireless network enabled on your phone to assist your phone? If you have a less than optimal cell signal at home, that could be the reason you have connecting problems at home. I don't have that problem home, or away.
Also my system will not pick up anything outside the blue zone box. I don't understand why your systems are picking up tall trucks outside the blue zone. If anything the tallness of the vehicle should be in the theory, farther away from the zone box.
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Post by LesTele on Jun 8, 2020 19:56:49 GMT -5
It is also cool to be on the Neighborhood Ring Network where people can report and show the video of people stealing packages, trying to break into cars etc plus the Police get this information also which helps law enforcement to catch the perpetrator/s That seems a wee bit too much like a Big Brother scenario for me. |
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 20:00:32 GMT -5
Also, the doorbell comes with a camera angler, but I don't think that would solve your problem.
I actually installed the angle mount and while not optimal it does give me a pretty good view of the porch and the approach. I actually like that view.
Here's mine.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 8, 2020 20:06:09 GMT -5
Also, the doorbell comes with a camera angler, but I don't think that would solve your problem.
I actually installed the angle mount and while not optimal it does give me a pretty good view of the porch and the approach. That is a better view than I thought it would give. |
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 20:11:48 GMT -5
Oh ya, the lenses are very much wide angle. The floodlight cam on my north side is about 18 feet from the road, and about 10' up, and I can see from the far left to the far right about 160 feet of road in width.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 8, 2020 20:19:15 GMT -5
Our next door neighbor had an incident a few nights ago. Someone aggressively ringing his doorbell (after dark). He has a frosted window that flanks the door and could only make out a shape that was about 6 ft tall and holding what looked like a 2x4 in his hand. As he described its a quiet (gated) neighborhood but something just didn't feel right. A similar incident happened a few miles down the road. He ordered the ring device and I did the neighborly lemur thing and ordered it the next day. I had been intending to do it anyway since our future plans involve some extended trips up north.
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Post by K4 on Jun 8, 2020 20:24:01 GMT -5
That seems a wee bit too much like a Big Brother scenario for me. My thoughts also |
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 20:29:55 GMT -5
It's up to the owner if they want to share any video, and I think most homeowners would want to help the police apprehend any would-be thieves.
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Post by Leftee on Jun 8, 2020 20:36:41 GMT -5
...waiting for the Peegoo photoshop follies.
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Post by K4 on Jun 8, 2020 20:47:49 GMT -5
I'm happy to help police but I do not like a surveillance society.
I'm glad I'm on the tail end of my time here.
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Post by LTB on Jun 8, 2020 21:04:29 GMT -5
Also, the doorbell comes with a camera angler, but I don't think that would solve your problem.
I actually installed the angle mount and while not optimal it does give me a pretty good view of the porch and the approach. That is probably better as it will not pick up cars going by but in position to capture anything that approaches your porch. |
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Post by De ville on Jun 8, 2020 21:07:03 GMT -5
I'm happy to help police but I do not like a surveillance society. I'm glad I'm on the tail end of my time here. Ya, I'm not down with government spying on people who have done nothing wrong. I have my cameras set up so they only record if someone comes onto my property. You kind of need to set the ring up that way anyways, otherwise, you'll get a butt ton of annoying alerts, and more video than any sane person want's to review. |
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 8, 2020 22:07:22 GMT -5
^ Yeah, my Ring has zero to do with the police or government.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Jun 9, 2020 6:52:01 GMT -5
I turned off the neighborhood alerts on mine. About 2 or 3 times a day, if somebody lights a firecracker, or a car backfires, you get the neighborhood busybody "Heard gunshots on vivion and walnut! anybody else hear gunshots?" and then all the other nervous busybodies chiming in "Oh no! Are they rioting here?? Did you call the police??"
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Post by Leftee on Jun 9, 2020 7:09:12 GMT -5
Funny Ring story...
We went to her son’s house to babysit grand daughter while mom and dad went to a wedding. While their, our daughter drove over. It’s a very old neighborhood that predates the automobile, so parking is near impossible. Our daughter, a new driver, inadvertently parked so that she partially blocked the neighbor’s drive. Most of these drives are just 2 strips on concrete with grass in between. They can be easy to miss.
Any ways, the neighbor came home and couldn’t get in her drive. She walked over and rang the door bell. It rang on our son and DIL’s phones at the wedding. They saw it was the neighbor and wondered what she wanted, but didn’t think any more of it.
Inside the house we had no idea anyone was at the door.
Luckily Mrs. Leftee happened to go outside and the neighbor saw her. In short, the call to the police was averted.
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. I like our ring but like others said it seems to work better when we are away from home and using cellphones. The picture is always good and clear, sound as clear as well. Sometimes it gets irritating when at home taking time to connect and answer.
