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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 8, 2020 22:19:00 GMT -5
I had my fifth bout with kidney stones, and my third lithotripsy (laser gun up your pee hole for those who don’t know) in November. One of the urologists told me that increasing the citrate level of your urine can help prevent them from forming. The best sources are diet orange or lemon lime soda, and orange juice.
I’m not a diet soda fan, and I was worried about the sugar content of the orange juice. Not that I have a sugar issue, but I didn’t want to add extra sugar to my diet.
So I bought the low sugar Tropicana that has half the sugar (ie its half water). I also bought diet Sprite, which is tolerable but not great. But then I got to thinking.
If I’m supposed to drink both of these things...why not drink BOTH of these things? I took a 15 ounce glass and poured in a can of diet Sprite. Then I topped it off with the low sugar OJ.
The result? It’s delicious! I get all the citrate I need, plus much less sugar than if I was drinking a glass of full strength OJ.
Plus, I don’t drink so I’m sitting around with a “mixed drink” like I’m a grown up.
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Post by MikeEC on Jan 8, 2020 22:29:27 GMT -5
** w00t **
Band Name Alert
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Post by Ragpicker on Jan 8, 2020 22:30:09 GMT -5
That's one to archive. I have never had kidney stones but it sounds like a great way to combat them. Getting old is not a joyride.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 8, 2020 22:35:11 GMT -5
That’s amazing. The real mixed drink word was changed to chicken by our dirty word filter. I’m leaving it because it’s funny!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 22:45:17 GMT -5
I was having some pain and went for tests. I have 2 kidney stones - one in each side. Kidney stones in stereo - sounds like a good name for a punk band for people my age...
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Post by Leftee on Jan 8, 2020 22:46:01 GMT -5
When I saw the thread title I looked at it a little Chickeneyed.
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Post by Riff Twang on Jan 8, 2020 22:54:32 GMT -5
Best thread title so far, considering it's accidental creation.
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Post by Opie on Jan 9, 2020 17:04:07 GMT -5
Down here in florida seems everyone has a meyer lemon tree. I squeeze them and throughout the year I add a squirt to my bottle of water and ice. It's my preferred drink. I had a kidney stone a few years back, I do no envy you. Good luck.
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Post by Seldom Seen on Jan 9, 2020 17:41:46 GMT -5
I generally just mix my favorite spirit with water and unsweetened lemon juice so maybe I have the citrate part covered. I've never had a kidney stone cluck- cluck.
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Post by LesTele on Jan 9, 2020 20:54:21 GMT -5
Not for you obviously, but I will strive to consume a mojito and a margarita each day. Not my favourites, but there’s no citrus in a negroni.
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Post by willie on Jan 9, 2020 21:02:02 GMT -5
I've mentioned this a few times on the FDP but most likely just ignored it thinking I'm just a natural medicine crackpot and if what I mentioned was truly effective their doctor would have mentioned it...but in the interest of preventing as many folks having more kidney stones I will post this one last time. I had 8 kidney stones over the course of about 20 years (1980-2000). I had long been a student of natural medicine but had failed to put into practice the regular intake of both vitamin B6 and Magnesium to prevent the development of renal calculus. So after my last stone event in 2000, I started taking 400 mg a day of Magnesium Glycinate as well as a B complex that contained 25 mg of vitamin B6. Magnesium Glycinate btw is well but slowly absorbed. I also increased my intake of water daily but not substantially over what I had consumed previously. The result was no kidney stones since...not one...nada..nunca. So, why not try it. Can't hurt..has no down side. BTW, it also worked for my son in law who had five large stones to form and had to have both surgery and ECL for his stones...started the B6 and Magnesium Glycinate regime...not another stone since. So just passing this along as a friendly suggestion...not meant as professional medical advice and YMMV..but I doubt it.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 9, 2020 21:16:43 GMT -5
I’m relaxing with an ice cold Chickentail as we speak.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jan 9, 2020 21:22:36 GMT -5
Stone free wishes to all youse guys. I helped out a neighbor friend last year who had one, a small one, and cripes he was in a lot of pain.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 9, 2020 21:27:18 GMT -5
My last one was the least painful. The first one was more pain than I have otherwise ever been in.
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Post by rickyguitar on Jan 9, 2020 21:41:19 GMT -5
I hear it's kinda like a piece of hell.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 9, 2020 21:46:23 GMT -5
I highly recommend nobody get one.
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Post by babsobass on Jan 9, 2020 21:58:18 GMT -5
Add enough vodka to the orange juice and I'll bet you won't care much about the stones (at least for a while).
I had a stone a couple of years ago. Had to have surgery to go get it. Thank god for general anesthesia. Add a stint that was in place for 3 weeks AND needed to be removed, yeah, hell, but temporary hell.
Good luck to you. There will come a time that it's all over.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 21:59:25 GMT -5
With my luck both sides will leave at the same time and there will be a logjam somewhere in the urethra.
Nobody said the luck of the Irish was GOOD luck...
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 9, 2020 22:03:01 GMT -5
Add enough vodka to the orange juice and I'll bet you won't care much about the stones (at least for a while). I had a stone a couple of years ago. Had to have surgery to go get it. Thank god for general anesthesia. Add a stint that was in place for 3 weeks AND needed to be removed, yeah, hell, but temporary hell. Good luck to you. There will come a time that it's all over. The stent is bad. Three weeks in place is a long time too, my guy only leaves it in a week. But it’s horrible when it comes out, going in you’re asleep, but coming out, wide awake. Not good.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 9, 2020 22:04:45 GMT -5
With my luck both sides will leave at the same time and there will be a logjam somewhere in the urethra. Nobody said the luck of the Irish was GOOD luck... Urethra is typically large enough to pass stones. The worst pain is in the ureter. That’s where mine got stuck all three times. They say once you get it into the bladder, unless it’s huge (in which case it’s a miracle it got there), the rest is easy. The two I got there came out easy pee-sy.
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Post by babsobass on Jan 9, 2020 22:17:51 GMT -5
Add enough vodka to the orange juice and I'll bet you won't care much about the stones (at least for a while). I had a stone a couple of years ago. Had to have surgery to go get it. Thank god for general anesthesia. Add a stint that was in place for 3 weeks AND needed to be removed, yeah, hell, but temporary hell. Good luck to you. There will come a time that it's all over. The stent is bad. Three weeks in place is a long time too, my guy only leaves it in a week. But it’s horrible when it comes out, going in you’re asleep, but coming out, wide awake. Not good. Three weeks with a stent was because the stone got stuck and caused a bit of ureter damage before being removed. The coming out part was unpleasant, but didn't take long, thank goodness.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 9, 2020 22:36:33 GMT -5
The stent is bad. Three weeks in place is a long time too, my guy only leaves it in a week. But it’s horrible when it comes out, going in you’re asleep, but coming out, wide awake. Not good. Three weeks with a stent was because the stone got stuck and caused a bit of ureter damage before being removed. The coming out part was unpleasant, but didn't take long, thank goodness. Yup, just like pulling a rabbit out of a hat, except instead of a hat, it’s your manhood.
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Post by Riff Twang on Jan 11, 2020 21:37:19 GMT -5
"Yup, just like pulling a rabbit out of a hat, except instead of a hat, it’s your manhood."
I think I need a bigger hat!
Bullwinkle
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Post by RufusTeleStrat on Jan 15, 2020 21:46:44 GMT -5
Funny Co ck tail. My dad swore by the 7up orangejuce when others were having screw drivers.
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Post by gbfun on Jan 16, 2020 2:11:21 GMT -5
First stone 14 years ago (3 x 4mm) was an 18 hour extravaganza of pain that saw me in every possible position to try and feel better, and ended in the ER where I got 20 minutes of pain drugs and then sent home. I've had dozens since then, despite changing diets, and the type of stone changed right along. My last stone took 18 months to pass but was not painful or uncomfortable like the first one. It did get hung up in the bladder, prostate, and the tool for a couple of weeks. I've done more fun things. The stone size ? A massive 7 x 10mm. It's probably better to get medical care for big stones like this but without health insurance I estimated my cost would be $15K or so if one includes tests and hospital. No thanks. I'd rather buy music equipment(I have the right priorities then). Our body can usually handle things...though it can be rough. Months before it finally came out I did some jogging and got blood in my urine for 3 days. Walking one mile would do it too. Then half a mile. Luckily the stone passed and I can walk several miles without bleeding. But I'll probably do the medical roulette the next time there's a problem. From what I read though, kidney stones can be caused by different diets, and may have a connection to kidney infections...or cause it. My stones have changed in composition as I changed my diet. Everybody seems to suggest drinking more fluids and I drink fluids way more than I ever did in my youth. I used to play tennis, volleyball, bike, racquetball, swim etc...all day long and only drink a couple glasses of milk. Sadly, the so-called experts don't seem to understand kidney stones very well...and they sure haven't explained why young people sweating in the hot sun and don't drink 8 glasses of water or whatever, don't get tons of kidney stones. So I suspect the truth about kidney stones is a lot more complicated than we know. My advice is to not grow any.
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Post by jazzguy on Jan 16, 2020 2:14:44 GMT -5
you guys are scaring me...
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jan 16, 2020 12:39:15 GMT -5
If you think diet soda is disgusting (because it is), why not just use sparkling water? The only non adult beverages I consume are water, unsweetened iced tea, or sparkling water with half a lemon or lime squeezed in. No sugar and tastes great.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 16, 2020 18:03:14 GMT -5
If you think diet soda is disgusting (because it is), why not just use sparkling water? The only non adult beverages I consume are water, unsweetened iced tea, or sparkling water with half a lemon or lime squeezed in. No sugar and tastes great. The reason I’m doing the diet soda, it’s because there have been several studies linking diet sodas to elevation of citrate level in the urine, which is what you’re trying to accomplish to prevent certain types of kidney stones, including the ones that I get. Orange juice does it as well. So basically, I’m using one to make the other more tolerable.The side effect of that is, I also don’t drink an entire glass of orange juice and all of the sugar that it would otherwise contain. Switching to sparkling water would defeat the purpose.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jan 16, 2020 18:20:11 GMT -5
^^ OK -- I assume you have looked into the research. I can't believe that anything good comes from diet soda.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 16, 2020 18:51:53 GMT -5
^ I totally agree, but there are numerous studies in recognized medical journals that support it.
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