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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 26, 2020 21:10:00 GMT -5
Just curious, I know a lot is said about home protection and the shotgun thread got me thinking. Anyone actually been in that situation?
I never have, but it happened to my sister and her family out in Pennsylvania. Woke up in the middle of the night to a guy going through drawers and looking under the bed.
My brother in law (a gun owner) kept from the bed and grabbed a samurai sword that he has handing on the wall. Clad only in his underwear. Must have been quite a sight.
He chased the guy, but unfortunately he must have been scared out of his mind because he couldn’t catch him.
I imagine waking up like that is very traumatic. And 100 times worse if you are home at the time rather than coming home to a ransacked house.
An alarm system was installed shortly thereafter. Point of entry was an unlocked basement window that frankly a human should not have been able to fit through.
He got away with nothing more than loose change. At first my sister thought some jewelry had been taken, but it turned out she had just forgotten where she had it
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Post by rickyguitar on Jul 26, 2020 21:26:13 GMT -5
Been burglarized, obviously no one home. A couple times we have had people sneaking around our property, peeking in windows etc. Fortunate no intruders when we were there. Fortunate for us and them.
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Post by stratcowboy on Jul 26, 2020 21:51:52 GMT -5
Had some raccoons break through a window in the living room a few years back (and caught bears trying to do same--in broad daylight!) when I was trying sleep (see the other thread here on Moe's).
Other than that, no. The ranch was hit 10 years ago several months after closing down for the winter. They stole the couch from the cabin, a cushy-chair, even the damn woodstove!! So I'm sure they were outfitting themselves for their own place. I always remove stuff like saddles and tools for the winter. Now we just remove the cushions for the couch and chair. Nobody wants those without cushions!
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 26, 2020 22:00:34 GMT -5
Had some raccoons break through a window in the living room a few years back My dad recently found a bunch of tiny little handprints on the door to his greenhouse. Obviously one of these masked burglars. But he was trying able to pry the door open. My dad was impressed that based on the marks, he appeared to have been trying in the right direction.
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Post by Taildragger on Jul 26, 2020 22:10:35 GMT -5
I have not, though I've had cars broken into and ransacked that were parked in front of former residences. A current neighbor's house was broken into a year or so ago but they cops caught the guy when he fled after being challenged by the beefy, 20-something renter of the house.
In another house I used to live in, several gang bangers (with whom I'd exchanged words) who lived next door tried to get me to open the front door at about 2-a.m. one morning. When I jacked a round into the chamber of my 12 gauge on the other side of the door, they seemed to lose interest and went away (so that can work, but there's certainly no guarantee). When I was in college, a friend's wife was home alone one night (her husband worked graveyard). She was awakened by a noise in the middle of the night and went to the kitchen because she thought her husband had come home and was getting something to eat. A high school kid had broken in because he thought no one was home. When she startled him, he panicked, grabbed a cast iron frying pan and beat her half to death with it. She was never the same again. Especially sad, because she had been an extremely pleasant, very bright young lady. In addition to being completely traumatized emotionally by the incident, she suffered permanent brain damage. Since the wife and I and the dogs all sleep in the master bedroom, I subscribe to the "arm yourself, stay put and call 911" school of thought. In that situation, anyone coming through the bedroom door uninvited will be shot. BTW, I think that in that scenario, your 911 call should make a point of stating to the dispatcher that the homeowner has armed himself but will stay in the one bedroom with all other legitimate occupants of the home until the police have arrived and clearly identified themselves as such.
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Post by K4 on Jul 26, 2020 22:32:47 GMT -5
your 911 call should make a point of stating to the dispatcher that the homeowner has armed himself but will stay in the one bedroom with all other legitimate occupants of the home until the police have arrived and clearly identified themselves as such. That is a no brainer. I have never had a home invasion, my late grandparents have. Fortunately, they were not home at the time.
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Post by gato on Jul 27, 2020 5:42:52 GMT -5
My previous home was burglarized, but the closest I've ever come to a confrontation was just after I moved into my present house. Someone tried getting in through my bedroom window while I slept. I didn't even realize it until the next morning, when I found the window screen removed and set aside, with some smudging where they tried to move the sliding glass. I had a wooden dowel in the track, so they were unsuccessful.
Unlike home invaders, burglars generally go out of the their way to avoid occupied homes: enhanced sentencing, armed residents, witnesses. I'll never know what my "welcome wagon burglar" had in mind.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Jul 27, 2020 7:12:10 GMT -5
I've never had my house or vehicle broken into (knocks on wood). the only time I've ever had stuff stolen from me was when I was in AIT in the Army, and a couple of barracks scumbags broke into my wall locker and stole some personal items.
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Post by michael on Jul 27, 2020 7:19:21 GMT -5
when we moved to the farm, we could not see any other houses around us. we were burgled shortly after we moved there. they got a couple of pistols and a scanner. The police called the guy BIG FOOT because they said he would knock on the front door and if noone answered, he'd kick it in. surely, there was a HUGE bootprint on the door. the doorjamb gave, not the lock. i fixed that by having a 1/4" steel plate cut and holes matched for the deadbolt to go in and attached that to the studs with a half dozen huge screws. the new door was solid wood.
i had one incident where i was mowing the yard and a crew cab truck came up the lane. it was full of guys. they all got out and walked towards me and i stopped the mower. they asked to used the phone... i would not let them in the house but went in and brought out the portable (you realize by now this was before cells, right?) when i was in the house, i told my wife to arm herself and stand guard. she got out the 12 gauge and stood just inside the door.
there were several vehicles in the drive, so the guys never really knew who or how many there were in the house... they kept looking back to the house kinda nervous like... but went on.
two other times i've had people knock at the door in the wee hours wanting things. i don't open the door, i offer to call someone for them even a taxi, but i won't open the door. one funny story this was just a few months ago...
a guy knocked on the door about 3 AM and said he needed gas to get his wife to the doctor and wanted to use my phone to call his brother. ALARM BELLS went off in my head because who doesn't have a cell phone these days? they give them away! i truly didn't have any fuel... so i offered to call his brother for him and did. his brother just laughed and said he wasn't going to. i offered to call someone else or 911 for an ambulance. he kept telling me to let him in, that he wouldn't hurt me... i told him i knew he wasn't going to hurt me because i was holding a 12 gauge.
he sort of coughed a little and left...
another time a fellow knocked on the door in the wee hours during a storm. he claimed he wanted in... i wasn't going to, noway! i told him to go over to the tractor shed and i'd call the cops to pick him up and get him out of the storm. he kept saying he couldn't hear me. i was hollering thru the door. i could hear him plainly. the went on for several minutes and i finally held a 357 up in the window and told him to get the H*** out... suddenly he heard me for he said... I'LL GO THE THE TRACTOR SHED!
i wonder who was standing on the side out of sight?
i've watched too many movies. i don't trust anyone anymore...
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Post by Shoes on Jul 27, 2020 7:20:20 GMT -5
We were burglarized years ago when the kids were small. Broad daylight, really traumatized us all but especially the kids.
Had the car burglarized once, stole the stereo and ripped up the dash.
Had a car stolen once, insurance said it had to be gone 30 days before they would pay out, it was recovered on day 30, it was a mess but they paid to clean it up and I drove it for years after. It was a very strange feeling driving it at first though.
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Post by Buster on Jul 27, 2020 7:29:42 GMT -5
Back in the mid 1970s, my parents bought a very large old house in the country that had been empty for several months. It had squeaky hardwood floors throughout. We were renovating it one room at a time prior to moving in. After getting several rooms completed and starting to bring in possessions, my father and I started sleeping there, both bunked in a front room. I was about 16. Shortly after both of us turned in one night, someone kicked in the side door and went up the creaky stairs to the second floor. We could hear them walking around upstairs. We already had phone service hooked up so a call was made to the state police, who dispatch said was about 20 minutes away. We were both armed, so while waiting for police to arrive, he covered the doorway leading to the floor we were on. Through a side window, I watched the door that was entered to see if the person exited. All the while, we continued hearing distinct footsteps on the floor above us. Just one state trooper arrived, so we sort of acted like his backup while he searched the top floor, but no one was found. We figured whoever it was must have climbed out onto the roof and jumped to the ground to make his escape. I'm not sure what would have happened if either of us was confronted by the person before police got there. My dad was a World War II vet so I can only imagine it would have not been good for the intruder. Positioned where I was, my role was really only to see if he left. It made for a pretty harrowing night. My folks lived there about 15 years and never had another problem.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jul 27, 2020 7:51:38 GMT -5
Back in the late 80's I rounded the corner to my home just in time to see me wife and kids standing in the driveway and a cop walking out holstering his gun. My family came home to find the home burglarized, quickly exited the house for fear they were still inside. Fortunately right at that moment a State cop was driving by, which my wife flagged down. They got a bunch of stuff, jewelry, 2 rifles, my mid 70s Tele Deluxe. The finished basement had a full band setup but also Sammy the yellow lab. But my rage went full blown when we were all standing there in the kids bedroom and the cop said "this window is where they came in". Our youngest was standing there wide eyed looking at the size 13 footprint on his pillow. Still p'sses me off.
Edit to add: This is the only house I've owned that was ever burglarized, and also the most "remote". While we lived on a main country road we had an acre + corner lot with woods behind and on the side. Across the street was a mafia guy's house that you couldn't see, just a gate. Vacant lot to the other side. It's my understanding the previous owner also got burglarized.
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Post by Riff Twang on Jul 27, 2020 8:15:57 GMT -5
Never a home intruder, but have been burgled. Only the once, and it was 40 odd years ago. It leaves a horrible feeling of violation, and seemed quite traumatic at the time.
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Post by jhawkr on Jul 27, 2020 8:43:22 GMT -5
Burglarized at our former house 30 years ago while we were at work. No direct confrontation though. We are armed in case it ever happens.
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Post by gato on Jul 27, 2020 8:49:50 GMT -5
I've never had my house or vehicle broken into (knocks on wood). the only time I've ever had stuff stolen from me was when I was in AIT in the Army, and a couple of barracks scumbags broke into my wall locker and stole some personal items. In Basic Training, back in 1968, my platoon was sent to Camp Roberts in sun scorched Central California for two weeks. Our assigned drill instructors were replaced by some lazy National Guard instructors. (We were never told why). Some of the recruits, bored out of their skulls, piled up footlockers in one of the barracks, to get into an attic entryway. There, they found a cache of stolen wallets dating back to the 1940's.
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Post by swampyankee on Jul 27, 2020 9:11:59 GMT -5
None as yet, but the usual punk kids getting into unlocked cars for loose change. It was happening all over town and they eventually were caught when someones security camera caught a good image of a face and one of his teachers recognized him as a student and confronted him with the evidence in the principals office with the cops present.
I once asked a gun enthusiast what type of gun would be best for home defense. He said a pump action shotgun would be best since the sound of a pump action loading the chamber is unmistakable. My son and his wife live in a sketchy area of a sketchy town, and he keeps a Mossberg 500 in a touchpad gun safe under the bed where they can just hit the code without having to see it, and have the weapon at the ready without even getting out of bed.
A bit overkill maybe, but all my kids are either former or current military and take security seriously.
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Post by FlyonNylon on Jul 27, 2020 9:22:33 GMT -5
Never had a home intruder. Actually never really experienced any sort of crime in 24 years in east TN (plus 1.5 overseas) then moved to SoCal for med school and in 4 years had 3 car stereos stolen, car vandalized once, car broken into two other times, and eventually stolen (police found it the next day) as well as a bike stolen and some other stuff I'm probably forgetting. I was pretty over it by the end and made a beeline back home lol.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Jul 27, 2020 12:29:01 GMT -5
I've never had my house or vehicle broken into (knocks on wood). the only time I've ever had stuff stolen from me was when I was in AIT in the Army, and a couple of barracks scumbags broke into my wall locker and stole some personal items. In Basic Training, back in 1968, my platoon was sent to Camp Roberts in sun scorched Central California for two weeks. Our assigned drill instructors were replaced by some lazy National Guard instructors. (We were never told why). Some of the recruits, bored out of their skulls, piled up footlockers in one of the barracks, to get into an attic entryway. There, they found a cache of stolen wallets dating back to the 1940's. Wow, lol. In my case my wall locker was locked, but these guys (apparently thieves in civilian life) found that you could put a big screwdriver in the loop of a Master combination lock and give it a quick jerk to bust it open. The drill sergeants put all the dirtbags who were waiting on their "you're outta here" paperwork in one room. If something was stolen, they knew where to look for it.
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Post by jazzguy on Jul 27, 2020 12:32:08 GMT -5
I came home once to find more than 1/2 my possesions gone. I was walking around in a daze and the phone rang. It was my soon to be divorced wife saying "no you weren't burglarized, I just took what I thought would be my share of things" She left the big heavy 27" tv, VCR and a few other electonic items, all of which broke within 6 months.
there could have been an instance once as I was falling asleep on the couch next to the window around 3AM and heard the distinctive sound of my neighbor's gate being opened. I looked out and saw 3 guys who immeditely saw me and split.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jul 27, 2020 12:55:57 GMT -5
Yes
Discussed it on the old forum.
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Post by RonC Picker on Jul 27, 2020 14:57:46 GMT -5
No home invasion, but...While living in a rural area in Ohio, had a detached garage that was burglarized. Took all my hand tools and the battery from my lawn tractor.
Around 1989 in AZ, house suffered a door kick burglary while I was at work. Crook got some jewelry and a VCR.
Lastly, also in Phoenix metro, wife’s car was broken into while shopping at a Walmart. Broad daylight too. They made off with some CDs and the removable face of an aftermarket stereo.
Thieves suck.
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Post by Taildragger on Jul 27, 2020 15:08:57 GMT -5
Around 1989 in AZ, house suffered a door kick burglary while I was at work. Crook got some jewelry and a VCR. Pretty sure that nowadays, people break break into your house to dump their VCR on you.
But I could be wrong about that...
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Jul 27, 2020 15:16:51 GMT -5
We've never experienced that -- fortunately -- but we are urban dwellers, have no interest in living in any remote location. We like city life with people around
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Post by rangercaster on Jul 27, 2020 18:15:14 GMT -5
Stuff happens !!!
I wake up in the morning...
And ...
Someone snuck in while I was asleep...
And drank all my beer and whiskey ...
Bummer !!!
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Jul 28, 2020 11:26:12 GMT -5
Stuff happens !!! I wake up in the morning... And ... Someone snuck in while I was asleep... And drank all my beer and whiskey ... Bummer !!! Naw...they just have holes in the bottles....
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Post by 6l6 on Jul 28, 2020 14:06:40 GMT -5
I'm surprised that there haven't been more break-ins in and around my neighborhood. Criminals know that the law is on THEIR side.
Gotta love California...
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jul 28, 2020 14:36:52 GMT -5
Shortly after we were married, through a comedy of errors, we ended up in a ground floor apartment in a triple-decker in downtown Brockton, which is the undisputed anal valve of Massachusetts. I woke up one night to what sounded like squirrels in the walls. I sat up to try to locate the sound and could see someone prying at one of the windows in the room across from the bedroom. The perp was backlit by the streetlight outside so there was no doubt it was a person and not a squirrel. I had a four D cell Maglite on the bedside table so I grabbed that and I tiptoed over to the window. I had all the windows pinned so they could only open about six inches so I knew he wasn't getting in -- when I got right next to the window I turned the flashlight on and pointed right in his face. He was so startled that he fell off the milk crate he was standing on, dropped his tools and screwed.
I called the cops and went outside to wait for them -- they never showed up. The next morning I went out to the window and picked up the flatbar he dropped. I still have it.
A couple months later at the same apartment we left for work one morning. At the end of the street I realized I forgot something and we turned around. I walked into the vestibule and saw someone kneeling in front of our door. He jumped up and I recognized him as a kid that lived on the third floor -- maybe twelve or thirteen. He was cornered and had nowhere to run. He had a puny screwdriver in his hand. I held out mine and he turned it over to me. We had a short negotiation and we agreed that I wouldn't kick his ass unless I saw him anywhere near the apartment again. Two days later his mom knocks on my door. She says -- My son is afraid you're going to kick his ass. I said - Yeah, I may have mentioned that, and told her the story. She called his name -- which I can't remember, and he slowly came down from the landing above where she had evidently told him to wait. She asked him if that's what happened and he nodded. She told him to say he was sorry and I told her he'd already done that. She wanted him to say it again. The boy and I shook hands and that was the end of it.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jul 28, 2020 14:41:44 GMT -5
The boy and I shook hands and that was the end of it. That'd be an interesting story to follow. Was it enough of a deterrent or an education on how to sharpen his thieving skills. These days you'd probably be in handcuffs for threatening a minor.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jul 28, 2020 15:41:41 GMT -5
These days you'd probably be in handcuffs for threatening a minor. Yeah -- that was a simpler and better time -- and of course I would never have smacked a kid -- even then. We moved out of that craphole a month or two later so I have know way of knowing what became of the kid, but I like to think that his strong mother would be able to keep him on an honest path.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 28, 2020 15:56:42 GMT -5
downtown Brockton, which is the undisputed anal valve of Massachusetts. Now that's something that belongs on a Welcome sign.
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