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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 13, 2020 16:46:34 GMT -5
any one know why strats are hard to get harmonics on the 5th frett but are easy on 7 and 12 and gibsons get them easy on the 5th where strats cant thks
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Post by guildx700 on Oct 13, 2020 20:57:05 GMT -5
Hmmm...I just grabbed 2 strats and 2 Gibsons...both sound equally loud with 5th fret harmonics.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 13, 2020 21:25:34 GMT -5
Hmmm...I just grabbed 2 strats and 2 Gibsons...both sound equally loud with 5th fret harmonics. thats interesting I have 2 vintage strats and both are extremly hard to get 5th frett harmonics |
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Post by Riff Twang on Oct 14, 2020 4:03:49 GMT -5
5th fret harmonics ring out easily on my strats too.
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Post by DrKev on Oct 14, 2020 4:35:49 GMT -5
With single coil *neck pickup* you won't get 5th fret harmonics because there is zero vibration over the pickup (which is at the virtual 24th fret node point). In fact you can get the same harmonic by touching the string over the pickup where the 24th fret wold be. With any other pickup, you'll get something out of it. Either that or your harmonic technique sucks and your strings are dead.  |
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Oct 14, 2020 8:36:20 GMT -5
It's always best to play harmonics via the bridge pickup because its location best captures most harmonic divisions on a string. Look here at where the lower divisions of nodes appear (where sine waves cross the graduated center line). Note that these are open string harmonics. As soon as you fret a string, everything shifts to the left on this diagram relative to the "rule of 18."  |
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Oct 14, 2020 17:21:03 GMT -5
even on the bridge pick up and a tube screamer maxed i still dont get any where near the harmonics on the 5th frett as i do 12th.
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Post by LTB on Oct 14, 2020 21:30:49 GMT -5
even on the bridge pick up and a tube screamer maxed i still dont get any where near the harmonics on the 5th frett as i do 12th. Many Fender Bass necks are known for dead spots. Newer necks with Graphite Rods (at least on a bass) help to alleviate this. Not sure if the two are related. |
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Post by pcalu on Oct 28, 2020 5:36:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure, and I'm no expert Luther...
Interesting... as a Tele player I've waffled between it being that my intonation is off. Or the pup placement on the particular model of the guitar.
Which is it? or Can it be both?
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Post by ninworks on Oct 28, 2020 9:09:42 GMT -5
I've never had any issues with harmonics on a Strat as long as I use the bridge pickup. 7th and 12th fret harmonics are always the strongest no matter what guitar you are playing them on. If I use and overdrive and my strings are in good condition I can usually get 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th, fret harmonics on any guitar without much effort. If you're using the neck or middle pickups on a Strat you're going to have trouble getting 4th and 5th fret harmonics out of the guitar. They'll still be there but you won't hear them. My 3 pickup SG Custom reacts the same way.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Oct 28, 2020 10:00:49 GMT -5
even on the bridge pick up and a tube screamer maxed i still dont get any where near the harmonics on the 5th frett as i do 12th. you pick the string matters. For harmonics to ring out, you need to pick the string between major nodes of that string length (fret-to-bridge length). If you pick the string in random loction, you might get a good ring, but most times you won't. Try this: play a 5th-fret harmonic by picking the string directly over the bridge pickup. Also, a 12th-fret harmonic will always be louder than a 5th-fret. The reason is because the additional nodes of the 5th divide the vibrating sections of string into shorter lengths. Look:  |
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