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Post by FlyonNylon on Nov 18, 2020 17:45:16 GMT -5
I’d say, “Yes” being great 90s music but technically more like ska-punk?
I love Sublime and listened to all their stuff over and over again on the lake or at the beach back in the day.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 18, 2020 18:02:22 GMT -5
There was a date rape issue at my college amongstbmembers of the basketball team and some of the accused were in the crowd while we were playing a showcase and we played Sublime’s. “Date Rape” nearly incited a riot, and were asked to leave.
One of the victims told me it was the nicest thing anyone ever did for her, which I found both flattering and sad.
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Post by matryx81 on Nov 18, 2020 19:15:40 GMT -5
I was 8 at the start of the decade and 18 at the end of it, and I liked some of it but not all of it. However; I did not quite have the ability to articulate this at that time, but I agree with this and think it explains some of my distaste for it at the time. Like the 1980s, I think the first half of the 1990s was much more interesting than the second. Most everything from 1997-1999 was trash. I like Soundgarden, but I think that for that type of music Alice in Chains was tops for me. They were far more interesting musically.
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Post by Opie on Nov 19, 2020 7:40:00 GMT -5
I like some of that stuff, but love the whole alt country scene of that time period. V-Roys, Sunvolt,Wilco,BR549, and loads of others.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Nov 19, 2020 10:55:06 GMT -5
I was 10 in 1996 and my introduction to alternative rock was Nirvana's unplugged album and The Smashing Pumpkin's 'Mellon Collie'. I fell in love with Nirvana first and used to listen to 'Muddy banks of the Wishkah' in bed with headphones.
Never liked Sublime, it seemed like all the skeevy dirtbags loved them because they sang about smoking weed, doing crime, and basically being skeevy dirtbags. Whenever I hear one of their songs I get a negative image in my head of the kinds of people my older sister used to hang out with in her doing hard drugs, getting arrested and running away from home days.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 19, 2020 12:32:32 GMT -5
Never liked Sublime, it seemed like all the skeevy dirtbags loved them because they sang about smoking weed, doing crime, and basically being skeevy dirtbags. Whenever I hear one of their songs I get a negative image in my head of the kinds of people my older sister used to hang out with in her doing hard drugs, getting arrested and running away from home days. That is a fair assessment. I have never smoked weed nor been a sleepy dirtbag but for some reason I still like them. As I made reference to over in another thread, the fact that Brad could play those crazy ska/reggae/punk guitar riffs and sing something completely different at the same time fascinated me.
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Post by Blacksunshine on Nov 19, 2020 16:39:21 GMT -5
What makes it "alternative"? Sounds like a rock band to me. Easy question! For me anyways, I had one foot in the 80s and one in the 90s, so I lived through it. I'm a few years older than mfitz, I was 17 years old in 1990. By "alternative" it simply means it was an alternative to what the mainstream rock was at the time. Bon Jovi, Warrant, Skid Row, Poison, bands like that. The guitars got fuzzier, the drum beats got more interesting, lyrics got darker and more "serious" for lack of a better term. (less about girls, partying, and excess, and more about addiction, mental issues, pain, sorrow, suffering, loss, regret, etc, you get the idea) It doesn't mean an alternative to rock, just an alternative to the status quo. Mainstream rock was pretty shallow, although admittedly it was the height of the guitar god, and players who excelled at their instrument. It was a good time, but once the Seattle scene took over, it was a welcome change. Alice In Chains to this day is still one of my favorite rock bands. The harmonies those two cats could do are still unmatched, IMO. (for rock that is)
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Post by Blacksunshine on Nov 19, 2020 16:42:21 GMT -5
This was my favorite Temple of the Dog tune. Nothing like a nice 7 meter jam to get things moving!
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 19, 2020 16:44:07 GMT -5
What makes it "alternative"? Sounds like a rock band to me. Easy question! For me anyways, I had one foot in the 80s and one in the 90s, so I lived through it. I'm a few years older than mfitz, I was 17 years old in 1990. By "alternative" it simply means it was an alternative to what the mainstream rock was at the time. Bon Jovi, Warrant, Skid Row, Poison, bands like that. The guitars got fuzzier, the drum beats got more interesting, lyrics got darker and more "serious" for lack of a better term. (less about girls, partying, and excess, and more about addiction, mental issues, pain, sorrow, suffering, loss, regret, etc, you get the idea) It doesn't mean an alternative to rock, just an alternative to the status quo. Mainstream rock was pretty shallow, although admittedly it was the height of the guitar god, and players who excelled at their instrument. It was a good time, but once the Seattle scene took over, it was a welcome change. Alice In Chains to this day is still one of my favorite rock bands. The harmonies those two cats could do are still unmatched, IMO. (for rock that is) Correct, BUT, “alternative” quickly then became mainstream, and thereafter it was kind of a misnomer.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 19, 2020 16:44:28 GMT -5
This was my favorite Temple of the Dog tune. Nothing like a nice 7 meter jam to get things moving! That’s my second favorite to SH2H.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Nov 19, 2020 16:51:41 GMT -5
When I think of the genre I also include the more poppier side of alt 90.
Collective Soul Counting Crows Fastball Portishead Soul Asylum Veruca Salt Toad the Wet Sprocket They Might be Giants Bens Fold Five Etc.
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Post by Blacksunshine on Nov 19, 2020 16:52:04 GMT -5
Correct, BUT, “alternative” quickly then became mainstream, and thereafter it was kind of a misnomer. Yeah, and it was funny (and quite ironic) to watch the rich Clear Lake kids sport flannels and combat boots in an effort to look homeless, lol
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 19, 2020 16:53:14 GMT -5
The funniest part to me was, I had always dressed like that and suddenly, now I was cool!!
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Nov 19, 2020 16:55:28 GMT -5
One of the first gigging pics I have is me donning a flannel, jeans, Eddie Vedder hair and a Tele, circa 1975.
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Post by Ayns on Nov 19, 2020 17:46:17 GMT -5
I was 30 in 1990, and the '90's was, for me, a bit of a renaissance from the awful cheesy pop/ rock of the '80's (although I liked some of it at the time).
I went to a *lot* of festivals and gigs in the '90's and although I had CDs by quite a few of the US bands mentioned above (Nirvana, Pearl Jam, STP, Counting Crows, Gin Blossoms, Green Day, Son Volt, Wilko), my main bands were guitar based Brit "Indie" bands like Oasis, Manic Street Preachers, Feeder, Embrace, Shed Seven, Ocean Colour Scene, Terrorvision and Therapy?
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Post by Seldom Seen on Nov 19, 2020 18:05:59 GMT -5
I liked a lot of it and the bands have already been covered. To me it was a great decade for harder edged stuff that stopped short of Metal. There is much nineties music in my rotation.
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Post by matryx81 on Nov 19, 2020 18:10:09 GMT -5
They were also a fourth rate Police copy band IMO.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Nov 19, 2020 18:15:49 GMT -5
I really liked Uncle Tupelo back then. They were alternative something I'm just not sure what.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Nov 19, 2020 18:18:24 GMT -5
Whoa, lots of Sublime hate here! All I know is this local guy sings the hell out of this song, and I dig it
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Nov 19, 2020 18:21:29 GMT -5
---------and this tune gets the entire crowd up and dancing, chanting "What I got".
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 19, 2020 18:42:18 GMT -5
How about this cover?
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Post by insanecooker on Nov 19, 2020 19:55:08 GMT -5
I'm a bit younger than the OP (was 10 in 1994). I started the decade listening to folk (first album at age 6 was by Simon & Garfunkel) but came around to rockier things in the second half. The grunge scene I did not warm up to at all at the time, but came around to some of it much later in life (still can't listen to much Pearl Jam). That goes for some punk rock also (though I like the first Offspring albums quite a bit at the time). Everyone around me was obsessed with it, though.
For the more formative stuff it was either more rootsy (I still maintain The Wallflowers' "Bringing Down the Horse" might be the best album of that decade) or leaning towards Britpop. Interestingly, nowadays I really struggle to listen to the first couple of Oasis albums that I really loved at the time - it feels like it didn't age well.
Many of the others along Wallflowers that were closer to country (Gin Blossoms, Sister Hazel...) ended up pushing my band towards more of a folk-rock sound, so kinda came full circle. These days I try to be an omnivore and current when it comes to music, but I certainly have soft spots for: - '90s (based on age) - '00s (same as above, as that was when my band was at its most active at the height of the indie rock days) - '80s (blame it on GTA Vice City)
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Post by Bopper on Nov 20, 2020 10:51:59 GMT -5
I spent most of the 90's listening to 89X in the Detroit area. It was the go to alt music station. Well, not any more. As of noon yesterday 89X became "Pure Country 89"
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Nov 20, 2020 11:12:24 GMT -5
I spent most of the 90's listening to 89X in the Detroit area. It was the go to alt music station. Well, not any more. As of noon yesterday 89X became "Pure Country 89"
Wow, well I guess there must have been some calculation there. I really enjoyed turning it on during my long drives as a field tech, hearing anything from Squirrel Nut Zippers to Portishead, not to mention a bunch of cool Canadian bands like The Tragically Hip and Crash Test Dummies.
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Post by matryx81 on Nov 20, 2020 11:25:51 GMT -5
I liked a lot of it and the bands have already been covered. To me it was a great decade for harder edged stuff that stopped short of Metal. There is much nineties music in my rotation. This is an excellent description.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Nov 20, 2020 12:15:27 GMT -5
Well, not any more. As of noon yesterday 89X became "Pure Country 89"
Wow, well I guess there must have been some calculation there. I really enjoyed turning it on during my long drives as a field tech, hearing anything from Squirrel Nut Zippers to Portishead, not to mention a bunch of cool Canadian bands like The Tragically Hip and Crash Test Dummies. I saw Squirrel Nut Zippers summer of '18. An absolutely amazing show. I can't remember the last time I had that much fun at a performance.
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Post by GmanNJ on Nov 20, 2020 12:37:32 GMT -5
Does Sublime count? New to me, a local band plays a lot of their stuff and I have come to really like it. Sublime is very cool but I would said closer to Ska then Alt. Ska is the bastard child of Punk and Reggae who learned to play horns. Aquabats, Blink 182 (yes they were ska first), Goldfinger and Real Big Fish are great examples
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 20, 2020 12:52:51 GMT -5
Does Sublime count? New to me, a local band plays a lot of their stuff and I have come to really like it. Sublime is very cool but I would said closer to Ska then Alt. Ska is the bastard child of Punk and Reggae who learned to play horns. Aquabats, Blink 182 (yes they were ska first), Goldfinger and Real Big Fish are great examples Thats probably fair. They get lumped in there, but if someone asked my favorite 90’s alternative band, I wouldn’t think of Sublime in a million years.
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Post by Blacksunshine on Nov 20, 2020 16:46:46 GMT -5
One of the first gigging pics I have is me donning a flannel, jeans, Eddie Vedder hair and a Tele, circa 1975. TTIUWP
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Post by LesTele on Nov 20, 2020 17:56:22 GMT -5
I really liked Uncle Tupelo back then. They were alternative something I'm just not sure what. Didn’t they invent alt-country? No Depression, their album, may have been been inspiration for the name of the alt-country magazine/website/magazine. There are other theories however. Most in the UK know that Uncle Tupelo didn’t invent alt-country. That was down to a Leeds band called The Mekons. I’m still very partial to Uncle Tupelo and continue to buy Wilco and Son Volt albums on release.
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