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Post by fkaJimmySee on Nov 25, 2020 16:44:44 GMT -5
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Post by LesTele on Nov 25, 2020 17:31:49 GMT -5
Jimmy. Pasting the URL in the second line of the pop up box keeps things looking tidy. Washington Post Story
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Post by RufusTeleStrat on Nov 25, 2020 17:57:19 GMT -5
Seems that they had a problem, recognized the problem, corrected the problem as best that they currently can in house, and are working on the external issues of the same problem. The thing is, and I do not want to get to political, but any negative light a journalist can bring to a group that is staunchly pro Second Amendment, is widely published but anything positive about the same group gets brushed aside.
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Post by reverendrob on Nov 25, 2020 18:17:35 GMT -5
They've been a shill for the industry interests forever, their lack of support for actual gun rights has cost them a ton of members.
Without them, we wouldn't have had the Hughes Amendment and the "gun that costs as much as a Porsche" syndrome after '86 - they snowballed Reagan.
To put it bluntly, not a fan.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Nov 25, 2020 18:44:51 GMT -5
Link requires a subscription to the Bezos Blog.
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Post by Peppy on Nov 25, 2020 19:03:06 GMT -5
Was a member for years. Along with membership in Gun Owners of America. Now only the latter.
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Post by Seldom Seen on Nov 25, 2020 19:15:35 GMT -5
My wife and I are members but after digging into the latest shakeup we’ve decided to hold off becoming lifetime members. We’ve considered both sides and still don’t know what to think of it all.
I believe GOA is a good organization to support but I wish they had a 501C3 to accept larger tax deductible donations like the NRA-ILA. As it is, I give them a few bucks now and then to fight the good fight since GOA is certainly on the front lines being headquartered in CA.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 25, 2020 19:48:13 GMT -5
The thing is, and I do not want to get to political, but any negative light a journalist can bring to a group that is staunchly pro Second Amendment, is widely published but anything positive about the same group gets brushed aside. This isn’t exclusive to the NRA or the Second Amendment. That’s just what the media does.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Nov 25, 2020 23:17:05 GMT -5
^^^ YEP ^^^
And there's malfeasance everywhere. Armed or not.
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Post by Harleyboy on Nov 25, 2020 23:35:03 GMT -5
I am a Life Member however I do not agree with many of the positions supported and/or advocated by the NRA. I wish the NRA was better at recognizing and promoting the fact that legitimate gun owners are not afraid of back ground checks, that guns are owned and used for recreational purposes like hunting, competition or informal target shooting. The typical American Gun Owner is just a typical American, that would rather spend Saturday afternoon on the range or in a duck blind.
I truly hope the NRA can find a way to correct the problems and issues that are currently in the limelight of the news media. As a member I am going to try to help make these corrections. I hope all members will take a similar course because, like it or not, the NRA is the largest national organization concerned with our future as gun owners.
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Post by gato on Nov 26, 2020 7:26:02 GMT -5
"The new tax documents portray an organization trimming costs and struggling as membership dues and other revenue declined even before the coronavirus pandemic curbed charitable fundraising nationwide. The NRA reported a $12.2 million operating shortfall last year, up from $2.7 million the previous year. This is the fourth year in a row the organization has reported spending more than it took in.
The one area where the NRA’s expenses are growing: legal costs, which soared in 2019 to $38.5 million from $25 million in 2018."
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Post by jtheissen on Nov 26, 2020 9:08:42 GMT -5
Yes. A member since the 70's as was my father and my grandfather.
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Post by K4 on Nov 26, 2020 9:54:34 GMT -5
I was a member but like Rob said, they really don't represent the gun owner like they should.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 26, 2020 10:17:22 GMT -5
I was a member but like Rob said, they really don't represent the gun owner like they should. In my experience, no organization fully represents the interests of their constituents. Consider the United Federation of Teachers, who insisted that teachers should not have to return to work this Fall due to COVID. My wife, a teacher, was never asked her opinion. She and ALL of her co-workers were overwhelmingly in favor of returning. There was no survey, no referendum, nothing at all to determine what its members wanted. And all the rest of us heard in the media was “the teachers are against going back”.
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Post by gato on Nov 26, 2020 10:17:33 GMT -5
I was a member back in the day, but once an organization's membership dues are being gobbled up by lawyers, it's time to move on.
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Post by Seldom Seen on Nov 26, 2020 11:21:23 GMT -5
I was a member back in the day, but once an organization's membership dues are being gobbled up by lawyers, it's time to move on. I have no problem paying legal professionals to protect my rights and I will continue to support the NRA and any other organizations that help protect my individual freedoms and fight actions to turn law abiding citizens into scofflaws under the guise of making the world a safer place.
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Post by RonC Picker on Nov 26, 2020 11:41:07 GMT -5
Not to disparage hunting or target shooting, but the 2nd Amendment isn’t about those and similar things. It’s about the right of citizens to keep and bear arms, period.
And I completely disagree that l “legitimate” (whatever the hell that means) gun owners are not afraid of background gun checks. We already have them thru NICS when purchased thru a dealer. The so-called “Universal Background Checks” espoused by gun control groups is worthless without recording AND archiving. The archiving portion is the slippery slope into registration.
Further, what person with criminal intent is going to comply with a background check. Maybe in Alice’s Wonderland.
Lastly, not supporting NRA or any gun rights organization is tantamount to cutting off your nose to spite your face, as the saying goes. Is anyone individually going to start a new pro 2nd Amendment organization? Let me know? ——————————————————- Language filter issue resolved.
-Fitz
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Post by Larry Madsen on Nov 26, 2020 12:00:06 GMT -5
I have been in the past. I have had reservations about re-upping based on the unsavory things I see and hear. I believe strongly in the basic principle.
All things considered ... I'm just not all together sure where I stand regarding the NRA at the moment.
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Post by Leftee on Nov 26, 2020 12:03:53 GMT -5
I have been in the past. I have had reservations about re-upping based on the unsavory things I see and hear. I believe strongly in the basic principle. All things considered ... I'm just not all together sure where I stand regarding the NRA at the moment. I sent you a message, here. In case you didn’t see it. 😊
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Post by Larry Madsen on Nov 26, 2020 12:08:48 GMT -5
Got it Leftee, thanks.
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Post by K4 on Nov 26, 2020 12:10:21 GMT -5
I bought my last firearm at a gun show, yep had to get a background check.
That said lets not get this topic into DOB territory.
Thanks.
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Post by jhawkr on Nov 26, 2020 12:29:33 GMT -5
Money talks and hopefully the NRA will get the message and clean up their act. The NRA has been an important player in the fight to protect our 2nd Amendment rights for decades. I would certainly like to see them get back on track rather than throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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Post by stl80 on Nov 26, 2020 12:58:43 GMT -5
Life member. Jim
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Post by k9bigdog on Nov 26, 2020 13:25:01 GMT -5
I've been a member for a long time and I'm an NRA certified pistol instructor. I maintain my membership though, only because I'm required to do so in order to maintain my instructor cert. and also a Fish and Game Club I belong to requires us to be members. That all being said, I've never been happy with NRA. Constantly calling for even more money over and above the dues, and doing very little for our gun rights in states like here in NY where they can't get an easy win. Show me a significant victory in a state like NY, NJ, CT, MA or CA .Until then they are really useless to me, just all about funding their meaningless small court victories in other places. ——————————————————————— I’m giving significant latitude here, but we’ll need to keep politics out of the topic if it’s to survive. Both the NRA and 2A can be discussed without politics.
-Fitz
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Nov 26, 2020 13:50:07 GMT -5
I've never been interested in joining because rifles aren't my thing. I have been to their museum a few times and it is a good one. The cafeteria at their HQ used to be really good too. Now, if there was a National Rubber Band Gun Association, I'd be all over it
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Post by Mfitz804 on Nov 26, 2020 13:50:57 GMT -5
I've never been interested in joining because rifles aren't my thing. Now, if there was a National Rubber Band Gun Association, I'd be all over it We could start it here...
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Nov 26, 2020 13:53:02 GMT -5
I've never been interested in joining because rifles aren't my thing. Now, if there was a National Rubber Band Gun Association, I'd be all over it We could start it here... Ok. I nominate Joerg Sprave for the office of President and Chief Technical Consultant.
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Post by Peppy on Nov 26, 2020 14:46:12 GMT -5
RonC Picker about covers it. All of it.
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Post by reverendrob on Nov 26, 2020 15:10:13 GMT -5
As far as "support background checks" - they don't work.
Ask any dealer who has customers who are delayed EVERY single time, for years, and there's no functional recourse, and ATF NEVER calls back.
The law allows for the gun to be released in a few business days at the dealer's discretion. Those people, who include me, who had keys to a shop with 2000+ guns, would have no 2A right if we had to wait for ATF to call back.
Pay it no mind I own NFA items.
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Post by LesTele on Nov 26, 2020 17:55:26 GMT -5
Now, if there was a National Rubber Band Gun Association, I'd be all over it National Rubber Band Gun Association. Arghhhhhhhhhhh!
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