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Post by budg on Dec 26, 2020 10:45:40 GMT -5
Looking at both. Egads, stewmac stuff is mighty pricey. I look on Amazon and prices are all over the place, but some reviews are not so flattering. What you got? Hopefully looking for some reasonable priced ones, but if the stew Mac ones are the only really good ones I’ll spend the money as crowning files are petty critical.
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Post by Leftee on Dec 26, 2020 11:09:16 GMT -5
I have one of these crown files and it works fine.
The StewMac version has 150 and 300 grit for each profile offered. So there is that. I did end up buying the StewMac set, on sale, after my initial purchase, above. I do like the StewMac set better. I like their ergonomics.
I did end up going with the Stewy nut slot files. I'm curious to see the other recommendations.
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Post by budg on Dec 26, 2020 11:14:02 GMT -5
That was the exact one I was looking at leftee. I think the stewmac one goes for around 100 bucks.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Dec 26, 2020 11:15:26 GMT -5
Good nut files are going to be expensive. I had a set of the ones with the fish on them (if I remember the name, I'll post it) and found they weren't terribly aggressive and weren't my favorite... but, I'm using mine several times a day, often making nuts from blanks, so for a hobbyist doing setups they're likely fine. I'm using the Stew-Mac ones. Yeah, they're expensive. They go on sale from time to time. When they're on sale... they're still expensive. But, better.
For crowning files, the good news is that the difference between cheap ones and nice ones is purely a quality-of-life and/or efficiency thing; one isn't going to result in a better final result than another. I'd stay away from the dog leg style with the changing inserts. Those are hard to control and you can get weird chatter marks that are harder to get out in the polish phase. You can do frets over the body (acoustics, Les Pauls, etc.) with a straight crowning file, it is just more tedious and you have to be a bit more careful. Shield off the top and you'll get the hang of it. You also don't actually need a narrow and wide version. If you do a guitar with narrow frets with a wide file you'll still get a good crown. The polishing phase tends to alter the crown a bit anyway, so the slight difference remaining after will make it negligible to anyone except the person who did the crowning.
That said, I use the fancy offset diamond crowning file from Stew-Mac, but as I mentioned it is a quality-of-life thing so I can do them quickly since it gets near daily use. If you spring for it, get the coarse grit one. The fine grit is (I would presume) intended for production workers who need to do very little crowning after fretting but want to speed up the polishing. I've had the ones that are just a straight file on a wooden handle, and was perfectly happy with them when I used them, they just took more time for the spots over bodies.
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Post by Leftee on Dec 26, 2020 11:16:56 GMT -5
This is a good source of tools, etc. www.philadelphialuthiertools.com/Also, prowl Reverb & eBay. Guys buy sets of files, use them once or twice, and sell them. I bought a nice set of Hosco bass nut files that way.
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Post by Leftee on Dec 26, 2020 11:22:48 GMT -5
I'd stay away from the dog leg style with the changing inserts. Those are hard to control and you can get weird chatter marks that are harder to get out in the polish phase. This is the set I have, and yes, you need to be careful with them. I do prefer the ergonomics, though. You just need to get your zen on. RE: the Stewy nut files... I recently bought the nut file backers for my files. Made them a whole lot easier to handle. www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/tools-by-job/tools-for-nuts-and-saddles/nut-file-backer.html
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Dec 26, 2020 11:32:33 GMT -5
Just followed Leftee's link and realized the nut files are on sale right now. Also, crowning files do go on sale from time to time as well.
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Post by budg on Dec 26, 2020 12:47:53 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I forgot about Philadelphia luthiers as an option. I just recently started doing my own fretwork. It started with getting a couple new guitars that had fret sprout and just why not do more. I’ll keep my eye open for sales and eBay and reverb are great ideas. Now in going to have to get a small toolbox instead of coffee containers and Rubbermaid.’
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 25, 2021 10:07:29 GMT -5
Curious if anyone has experience with this crowning file from Stewmac. I don't know the exact difference between this one and another offered for about $20 cheaper.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 25, 2021 13:17:34 GMT -5
Ehh, for as little as I do this I just bought a set of 3 Hosco crowning files from Philadelphia Lutherie. The one I currently have is the Stewmac wooden handled with different bits, I've found that one clunky and chattery.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Feb 25, 2021 18:19:30 GMT -5
The difference between the two you showed is that one is diamond grit and the other is an actual file. The diamond will cut faster and will be more friendly with shorter strokes while the file will want longer strokes and could chatter.
Edited to add that the diamond ones linked are the 300 grit on closeout. 150 is the better grit for most people. The 300 cuts slower, but marginally speeds up the polish process. In my factory/assembly days the 300 were nice because you could save time the polish and there never was enough material to remove on an initial dressing for the slower cut to even be noticeable. But, try doing a shedder guitar with very flat frets and you'll find yourself hating life halfway through.
Those dog leg file handles with the changeable parts are pretty annoying. You'll be much happier with your new ones. The long ones will still chatter if you try doing little strokes back and forth, but far, far less than your old one.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 25, 2021 19:50:21 GMT -5
Thanks Funky, appreciate the insight.
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