huck
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Post by huck on Jan 16, 2021 15:48:00 GMT -5
Hi. I can't really describe this concisely enough to get good google results, so here goes.
I have a '78 Fender Musicmaster bass, and the A tuner takes a fraction of a turn before it catches when tuning.
For example, if the A string is sharp, I'll go to turn it counter-clockwise, and the key is loose. I can turn it without the post turning. I keep turning just a touch more, and it "catches" and works fine.
Could the gears or threads or cogs or whatever they're called be worn? It seems like it might just be in one spot on the gear, but I'm not sure.
And just for further obfuscation, sometimes it only does this when tuning down, sometimes when up, very occasionally in both directions. That's what's making me think it could be one spot on the gear. It's not a major deal, just annoying. And it's only on the A tuner.
Any thoughts?
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Jan 16, 2021 19:45:25 GMT -5
If I'm following you correctly, the worm has room to move around before engaging the gear. If you go strictly on what the pitch of the string does then the nut or other things could change things, but when the worm and gear are not engaged well you can generally feel it.
In theory, every tuner has some level of slop in there, it is just a matter of whether it is perceptible. This is part of why we were all told to detune and then tune up to pitch, even though we never knew why, and the person telling us to do it probably didn't either. It is common for it to be really obvious in old tuners. It'll stay in tune just fine, it is just annoying when you're trying to tune.
Some tuners can be improved if there is an adjustment screw (typically the one at the end of the button, sometimes at the opposite end) which draws up slack in the worm, usually against some sort of bushing. I really doubt that is the case on your bass. Lubricating it won't do anything to fix it, but can sometimes make it less annoying because it won't feel as strange when it finally engages.
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huck
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Post by huck on Jan 17, 2021 1:39:54 GMT -5
Yup, you got it 100%. Sounds like I can live with it.
Lubricating open-back tuners, huh? Never done that. What product do you like for that?
Thanks for your help,
kr
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Jan 17, 2021 10:05:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd be inclined to live with it unless I stumbled upon a reasonably priced set of new tuners that was a perfect match for the foot print. I'm not a huge fan of swapping tuners when they don't match old foot prints unless absolutely necessary.
I'm using the last of something of which the printing on the bottle has worn off. Sorry, that isn't too helpful! I'll probably be shopping for something pretty soon myself.
You absolutely DON'T want anything that will run off and wick under the tuner plate and go into screw holes. It loves to soak into end grain and make a huge mess. I think the flagship 3-in-1 is one that is way too thin.
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